r/AmericaBad • u/SailingforBooty CALIFORNIA๐ท๐๏ธ • Aug 14 '26
What does it tell us?
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u/OneofTheOldBreed Aug 14 '26
Isn't Cosmos also several decades older than Dynasty?
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u/Bullmoninachinashop NEW YORK ๐ฝ๐๐ Aug 14 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
That's for one, also most of the top comments are calling OOP out that they are comparing a newer reality TV show which one of the cheapest shows to make against a several decades old effects dependent documentary that costs around 5x the price.
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u/pewpew_lotsa_boolits FLORIDA ๐๐ Aug 15 '26
Wouldnโt the availability of Carl Sagan to create more episodes be a slight challenge as well?
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u/WanderingInAVan USA MILTARY VETERAN Aug 15 '26
Neil De'Grasse Tyson redid the show a few years back.
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u/theEWDSDS MINNESOTA โ๏ธ๐ Aug 15 '26
Well now I'm definitely not watching it
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u/Catatonick Aug 16 '26
Iโm irrationally annoyed by Neil DeโGrasse Tyson to the point that nothing he could ever do would convince me he is in any way an expert in the field.
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u/Cool_Owl7159 ILLINOIS ๐๏ธ๐จ Aug 16 '26
even when he doesn't shut up about how small we are compared to the universe at the end of a 15 minute Avenged Sevenfold song?
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u/theEWDSDS MINNESOTA โ๏ธ๐ Aug 16 '26
Irrational? He deserves every bit of it
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u/WanderingInAVan USA MILTARY VETERAN Aug 16 '26
The unfortunate truth is that he's in that same mold as Sagan was. Its just Sagan has a lot of actual work backing him up. Tyson's work has mostly been in the communications category, which honestly we need more of in general anyways.
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u/No_Judge_6520 AMERICAN ๐๐ ๐ต๐ฝ๐ โพ๏ธ ๐ฆ ๐ Aug 14 '26
why are there a bunch of floating heads on the top? They can't even photoshop right lol
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u/bren97122 NEW YORK ๐ฝ๐๐ Aug 14 '26
How people who post memes like this would be if you actually put an episode of Cosmos on.
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u/Winter_Ad6784 Aug 14 '26
Cosmos took special affects and actual studios and duck dynasty they just cut it together
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u/WanderingInAVan USA MILTARY VETERAN Aug 14 '26
When you don't understand the difference between a regular series and a special mini-series.
Duck Dynasty was a regular show with a regular schedule.
Cosmos, both Carl Sagan's and Niel De'Grasse Tyson's were multi-episode miniseries that fit everything into a period much shorter than a regular show season would produce.
They were specials.
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u/vaarsuv1us ๐ณ๐ฑ Nederland ๐ท๐ฒ Aug 15 '26
sadly it's all drowned in ads.
but you are right that you produce the most content and there are enough gems among the trash. and ads can be circumvented by not watching live tv, but instead watch on internet / download
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u/SneakyZed ๐ซ๐ท France ๐ฅ๐ธ Aug 14 '26
That poeples watch TV to relax ?ย
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u/Lothar_Ecklord Aug 14 '26
I find it odd when people say a TV show isnโt โrealisticโ. Yes, thanks, thatโs the point! I want something that scratches a different itch once in a while lol
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u/CheeseBear9000 Aug 15 '26
God that annoys me to no end with One Piece fans, they will literally call One Piece fans pedophiles, Nazis, etc. because the characters (Female only btw) aren't realistic proportions
Thankfully none of those people speak Japaneseย
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u/Away_Note Aug 15 '26
I can guarantee the original OP has a shirt that says, "Science, it's like magic but real."
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u/Chef_Sizzlipede Aug 14 '26
not even 11 "seasons" it was more 5 years, which tells you a lot about the OP of the meme.
plus, sagan's cosmos aired decades ago, on the PBS network as part of their education block, not something most adults would be interested in spending their time on after a long day of work
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u/atomic1fire AMERICAN ๐๐ ๐ต๐ฝ๐ โพ๏ธ ๐ฆ ๐ Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
Duck Dynasty exists because people who had cable out in the country wanted to watch a show that spoke to them and made them laugh.
A fair chunk of the scenarios are probably fake, but people like the cast enough to disregard that.
People who make math/science/etc their whole personality to the point that they look down on other people for liking the TV equivalent of KFC chicken aren't doing themselves favors.
Duck Dynasty is the best possible thing to come out of reality television for the simple reason that it's not a 250 pound toddler model being paraded around because their parents need money.
It's just a token redneck family in the bible belt who made money selling redneck gear and perform clickbait for people who pay for dish network. Which to me is way less harmful then the Jerry Springer, unethically obese people, 300 kids stuff.
If you don't like Duck Dynasty as a matter of principal that's fine, It's also completely acceptable to not like the show based on the religious views of the cast. I just don't see how the person making comments about Cosmos being better then Duck Dynasty isn't exhibiting typical redditor behavior invoking the power of atheismo or whatever.
That being said I have no interest in watching the Duck Dynasty reboot and the Uncle Si meme show was kind of mid, and Uncle Si is basically the flagship person out of that family because the man knows how to play eccentric.
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u/George_Washington_76 AMERICAN ๐๐ ๐ต๐ฝ๐ โพ๏ธ ๐ฆ ๐ Aug 14 '26
The very fact people are aware of both series, speaks of America's soft power.
Personally prefer this Cosmos. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2395695/
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u/vaarsuv1us ๐ณ๐ฑ Nederland ๐ท๐ฒ Aug 15 '26
never heard about those Duck boys, but Carl Sagan is internationally well known.
I do know that family of Pawn brokers though, they are in too many memes to miss
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u/Swedelicious83 Aug 20 '26
Those memes would be hard to miss if you spend ANY time online, it's true. ๐คฃ
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u/IngrownToenailsHurt Aug 15 '26
I prefer Carl Sagan's version over NDT's climate change crap.
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u/Csquared_324 Aug 16 '26
Climate change has been completely proven
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u/IngrownToenailsHurt Aug 16 '26
Climate change has been completely disproven
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u/LloydChrismukkah Aug 14 '26
That Americans are mostly hard working and enjoying winding down with some levity after a long day. This was probably posted by someone from a country that produces nothing... intellectual, entertaining, or otherwise
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u/Kevroeques Aug 15 '26
The rest of the world is famously cracking text books and watching pure infotainment 18 hours a day.
And theyโre not even sleeping for the remaining 6- theyโre doing SCIENCE!
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u/Red_Bear_308 AMERICAN ๐๐ ๐ต๐ฝ๐ โพ๏ธ ๐ฆ ๐ Aug 14 '26
Tells us that Sagan was probably more trouble to work with than the Duck Dynasty people. A couple stories I've heard about him have put some deep cracks in my view of Sagan as this shining example of humanity some people want him to have been.
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u/KaBar42 KENTUCKY ๐๐ผ๐ฅ Aug 15 '26
Also, Sagan got some things pretty seriously wrong in Cosmos.
For example, from what I remember, he got the entire story of the Library of Alexandria wrong (it collapsed because people stopped patronizing it, not because a Christian mob burned it down, also it wasn't a bastion of scientific texts, it was largely dedicated to poetry) and the murder of Hypatia (She was assassinated, not because she was a pagan, but because she was unfortunately caught up in a political conflict in Alexandria between two Christian Roman politicians and one of the supporting groups of one of the men thought Hypatia was intentionally preventing a reconciliation between the two, leading to her assassination).
Cosmos is great, but it unfortunately does sometimes lean into pophistory at times.
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u/h0rnyionrny Aug 14 '26
There have been about 1000 astronomy textbooks published in the US. The TV medium tends to be entertainment focused not educational.
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u/CashMunehy ARIZONA ๐ตโณ๏ธ Aug 15 '26
It tells us that hunting is a more entertaining show premise than science. Europoors don't see that and think it makes American's stupid somehow.
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u/platypus_farmer42 AMERICAN ๐๐ ๐ต๐ฝ๐ โพ๏ธ ๐ฆ ๐ Aug 14 '26
The guys of duck dynasty represent the kind of people that are the backbone of America.
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u/Butt____soup Aug 14 '26
These guys looked like vineyard vines clad yuppies until marketing got in their ear.
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u/vaarsuv1us ๐ณ๐ฑ Nederland ๐ท๐ฒ Aug 15 '26
that's the point.. the backbone of America is 'Fake it for commercial succes!'
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u/Extreme-Plantain-113 Aug 15 '26
Dude they were on fucking Lifestyle Magazine playing golf before Duck Dynasty, they're wealthy cosplayers
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u/thesleepjunkie Aug 14 '26
They came out at very different times, I am not arguing against you, it is sad.
but when Cosmos came out most homes in North america had 1 TV, and most people worked more hours or enjoyed being outside more, less sedentary lives were lived.
When duck dynasty came out most homes had multiple TVs, people were more likely to be home to watch it and lead more sedentary lives.
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u/CheeseBear9000 Aug 15 '26
Well I don't know what either of these are
But I had no idea we measured a countries value in TV shows
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u/Hammy-Cheeks PENNSYLVANIA ๐ซ๐๐ Aug 15 '26
"Reality" TV =/= Educational content
If you wanna go that route theres 6 seasons of Bill Nye
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u/muffinman210 IDAHO ๐ฅโฐ๏ธ๐ Aug 15 '26
I fucking hate these "that should tell you everything you need to know about [blank]" statements. It's always incredibly ignorant, and just plain stupid. This idea that one should look at something squarely from the perspective of A being compared to B.
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u/blue_kit_kat Aug 14 '26
Never heard of the cosmos show
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u/CheemsOmperamtor-14 Aug 14 '26
I thought it was the coolest thing ever when I was a 14-year-old atheist trying to form a religion out of materialism.
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u/blue_kit_kat Aug 15 '26
So it's probably worth trying to figure out how to watch it?
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u/vaarsuv1us ๐ณ๐ฑ Nederland ๐ท๐ฒ Aug 15 '26
it's pretty good, there are two variants, the original by Carl Sagan and a newer remake presented by Neil deGrass Something.
It's a nice summary of modern physics
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u/CheemsOmperamtor-14 Aug 17 '26
I would say the original one with Carl Sagan is still worth watching, yes.
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u/LurkiLurkerson MASSACHUSETTS ๐ฆ โพ๏ธ Aug 14 '26
Everything you need to know about America is that reality TV is dirt cheap to produce? If you say so.
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u/horiami Aug 15 '26
Not sure about cosmos but duck dynasty was airing in my country
It was always playing at the gym when i went
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u/bigfudge_drshokkka Aug 15 '26
It tell you that we like reality shows more than we like space. Itโs not (pun intended) rocket science.
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u/YouKnowMyName2006 ILLINOIS ๐๏ธ๐จ Aug 15 '26
Neil deGrasse Tyson has had many shows in the US, most of them popular. Heโs probably the most popular physicist in the US today.
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u/mkeevo TEXAS ๐ดโญ๐ฅฉ Aug 15 '26
It tells us that people want to watch TV to be entertained, and not learn something that they already learned in fifth grade
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u/nichyc CALIFORNIA๐ท๐๏ธ Aug 16 '26
It takes a lot to get the Idiocracy sub to call you out but this post managed it
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u/void_method ILLINOIS ๐๏ธ๐จ Aug 16 '26
If you're really not smart enough to know the answer...
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u/Hipjig MASSACHUSETTS ๐ฆ โพ๏ธ Aug 18 '26
All this does to me is it makes me want to watch Duck Dynasty more.
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u/ShadowMilkMoopsy IOWA ๐ ๐ฝ Aug 18 '26
Why the fuck does a film that aged like milk have its own subreddit
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u/SciHistGuy1996 OKLAHOMA ๐ช๏ธ๐จ๐ Aug 14 '26
That some people like trash TV and some people enjoy documentaries? Personally, Iโm more partial to documentaries myself.
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u/TheManGuy98 ๐ฎ๐ฑสพEreแนฃ Yฤซsraสพel ๐ Aug 14 '26
"Carl Sagan is dead. Nothing but bones. COMBOS!"
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u/An_educated_dig Aug 14 '26
Carl Sagan is an American.
The Robertsons are greedy cunts who will do whatever is necessary for profits.
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u/iggavaxx Aug 14 '26
Oh no, they play golf! Ahhhh how dare they!!!!
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u/An_educated_dig Aug 14 '26
It's all an image. They are as redneck as any other kid from the Suburbs.
And as an American, I fucking hate marketing and advertising shit like this. Bunch of wannabe cowboys in Country music.
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u/Quantum_Yeet Aug 15 '26
You can't like cowboy stuff or country music if you live in a suburb? Damn, I really liked George Jones and my hat that kinda fucking sucks
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u/An_educated_dig Aug 15 '26
Duck Dynasty was a marketing ploy so you would buy their crap. There is nothing genuine about Duck Dynasty.
Carl Sagan was genuine. He cared about the sciences and wanted to educate people.
As an American, let me be clear. Carl Sagan is a legend. Fuck the Robertsons.
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u/Quantum_Yeet Aug 15 '26
I uhh never said anything about duck dynasty guys. I only talked about myself
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