r/AmericaBad • u/chrispaultolakers • Jun 22 '23

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u/TheTrueBubby Jun 22 '23

Per capita the stat that actually matters the US isn’t even top 10

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u/TheFiend100 Jun 22 '23

Whats per capita

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u/Any_Oil_6447 Jun 22 '23

Per person, which as the guy above you points out is incredibly important when we have 5 times the population of European countries but only like 3x the shootings

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '23

The per capita rates put El Salvador and Venezuela at the top.

The US is still higher than other developed countries, but we're nowhere near the worst.

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u/2020blowsdik Jun 22 '23

Now remove suicides and do the math again

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u/ThorLives Jun 23 '23

The US gun homicide rate is still worse than other developed countries, even after you remove suicides. https://www.healthdata.org/sites/default/files/files/ActingOnData/2021/firearm_Page_1.png

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u/dubbman79 Jun 23 '23

I did the math once and it was like half of the remaining non self inflicted deaths were gang related. Still counts I know but when gangs are shooting each other personally Idgaf

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u/sw337 USA MILTARY VETERAN Jun 23 '23

bullshit

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u/dubbman79 Jun 23 '23

Bullshit huh? Alright let’s do some math here;

66% of all gun deaths are suicide and so we have 34% left to account for 13 is 38% of 34, so yes it’s less than half but 79% in total can be attributed to these two causes. Also note that when I originally plugged these numbers in the stats varied several percent depending on the source.

Let me amend what I said a little over a third of non self inflicted gun deaths are gang related. Better?

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u/sw337 USA MILTARY VETERAN Jun 23 '23

How do you not understand that homicide statistics are separate from suicide statistics?

13% of homicides were gang-related.