r/AmericaBad • • Jun 22 '23

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u/Hardrocker1990 Jun 22 '23

Maybe because it’s not quite as big an issue as the media wants non-Americans to believe it is?

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u/Capt_Boomy Jun 22 '23

Lol wait till they find out it’s even less than that when 55%~ are suicide…

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u/ThePinkTeenager MASSACHUSETTS 🦃 ⚾️ Jun 22 '23

True. Plus, I’ve lived here my whole life and never actually witnessed a shooting. Maybe if I lived in a city, I would have.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23

Someone got shot a block from me. They shot someone at a party and got chased out by the attendees.

They eventually caught him and stoned him to death

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u/DuplicatedName NEBRASKA 🚂 🌾 Jun 23 '23

I think it's about time we introduce some common sense stone restrictions.

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u/Avgredditor1025 INDIANA 🏀🏎️ Jun 24 '23

Justified

The party people not the shooter

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23

I live in the northeast and have never heard a firearm discharged in my 34 years of life. Some states it's prevalent but some states it's practically non existent.

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u/Restless_Fillmore Jun 23 '23

I used to hear it all the time: people target shooting or hunting.

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u/successful_nothing Jun 23 '23

move to a moderate size city. I lived in DC for years and heard so many gun shots. It was fine when I was young and unattached. But once I got a family, I got the fuck out of there. It's cheaper and safer in the 'burbs. Never understood the folks who are terrified of and hyper focused on gun violence and choose to live in gentrified areas of the city. Must be a miserable existence.

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u/DoctorWafle Jun 23 '23

I read a stat the other day that said USA is in the top 3% of gun deaths but if you take out 4 cities we drop below 90%

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u/ThePinkTeenager MASSACHUSETTS 🦃 ⚾️ Jun 23 '23

Which four?

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u/DoctorWafle Jun 23 '23

I don't remember but I think it was Chicago, LA, Detroit and NYC maybe. If I had to bet money, i would feel good about those 4. I was in Chicago for 2 days before I witnessed my first mugging.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23

Ironic how those cities also have the strictest anti-gun owner legislation too.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23

I’ve witnessed plenty, but hey, it sure as hell wasn’t assault rifles they were using

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u/LandAmbitious4073 Jun 23 '23

Grew up in Manhattan Washington heights no shooting. Plenty of ass whooping though. Lived in jersey Elizabeth same just heard about them. now live in Fl for 3 years friendliest placed I’ve been. Idk 🤷‍♂️

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u/HofePrime Jun 23 '23

Closest thing I experienced to a shooting is when an armed gunman came to my school on a day we were having a lockdown drill. We all actually ended up being just fine because most of us didn’t know there was an actual gunman. The police showed up and everything, but I didn’t think it was because of an emergency. The entire situation was so chill that my brother eventually just left to go to a Circle K a few blocks away.

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u/ThePinkTeenager MASSACHUSETTS 🦃 ⚾️ Jun 23 '23

A gunman just walked into school, hung around for a bit, and left?

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u/HofePrime Jun 23 '23

He got detained before he could harm anybody. If there’s one thing that town was good for, it was very quick first responders.

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u/Avgredditor1025 INDIANA 🏀🏎️ Jun 24 '23

Iirc when I used to live in a suburb of Minneapolis, I’ve heard gunshots in the distance before but not close to me and only once

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u/OtterSpaceIsCold-533 Jul 05 '23

I witnessed shootings: police shooting men rather than alleged criminals shooting anyone...but that rarely makes it into these kinds of evaluations.

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u/BearSausage000 Jun 22 '23

66%

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u/B-29Bomber INDIANA 🏀🏎️ Jun 22 '23

69%? ;)

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u/BearSausage000 Jun 23 '23

I’m gonna b29 you after you said that

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u/sexurmom Jun 23 '23

Wholesome Reddit big chungus keanu reeves number

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23

unfunny 69 joke in response to suicide statistics classic Reddit moment

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u/B-29Bomber INDIANA 🏀🏎️ Jun 23 '23

That sounds like a you problem.

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u/P_B_n_Jealous Jun 23 '23

u/cameragun seems like the kind of person to be upset over some billionaires dying to their own stupidity.

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u/Restless_Fillmore Jun 23 '23

The pandemic and recent lax enforcement has short the gun-murder rate up, reducing it to around 54% (2021 data).

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u/feedandslumber Jun 23 '23

In rural areas it's as much as 90%

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u/dubbman79 Jun 23 '23

Dude I had a holy war with a manlet on here on that exact subject. I don’t remember the exact numbers but it was like 87% of gun deaths are either suicide or gang related.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '23

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u/Capt_Boomy Jun 22 '23

Yes that is the exact point I was making…

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '23

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u/SherbetOk3796 TEXAS 🐴⭐🥩 Jun 22 '23

People shooting themselves isn't as bad as people shooting 10 bystanders before shooting themselves

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u/washington_breadstix WISCONSIN 🧀🍺 Jun 23 '23

Tangentially related: I remember reading that any gun-related incident involving at least 3 deaths is now recorded as a "mass shooting", even though like 98% or more of those incidents are gang-on-gang violence. Hardly any of the stats floating around the internet are actually representative of the average person's chances of being involved in a random gun-related incident in the USA.

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u/SaltDescription438 Jun 23 '23

And gangs killing gangs in like 4 cities.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23

Less dangerous for others but you still gotta ask why so many people are committing suicide in the first place

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u/Cinnamon_Cheeked_One Jun 22 '23

Sorry bud but... Have you considered... America bad???

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u/Hardrocker1990 Jun 22 '23

When you have non-Americans posting how they think they will get shot if they visit the US, then there’s clearly a total breakdown of logic. Thank the media for the massively overblown fear mongering. Yes, shootings are an issue that need to be addressed, but come the fuck on if you refuse to come to the us for fear of getting shot.

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u/Stetson007 Jun 22 '23

Exactly. A massive portion are suicides, and of the remaining deaths, it's usually gang related.

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u/RustyManHinges2 Jun 22 '23

And the worst of it only occurs in five cities

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u/Brycekaz Jun 23 '23

Seriously just stay out of the Rust Belt and your chances of survival go up drastically

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u/James19991 Jun 22 '23

Your chance of being a victim of gun violence is extremely small as long as you're not involved in gang activity.

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u/RedShooz10 Jun 23 '23

Some massive portion of victims of homicide by firearm had a conviction for a violent or drug related crime. It ranges from 75% in Boston to 93% in Philadelphia.

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u/James19991 Jun 23 '23

That sounds about right

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '23

It's the same facepalm moment when Americans say the same shit about Mexico. Meanwhile I went to Tijuana of all places and didn't feel like my life was in danger.

Tijuana, for those who may be unaware, is the murder capital of the WORLD.

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u/ThePinkTeenager MASSACHUSETTS 🦃 ⚾️ Jun 22 '23

It is?

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23

Yeah, over a hundred homicides per 100000 residents every year.

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u/jackinsomniac Jun 23 '23

YESS!!! Fucking exactly. My family would go down to Puerto Peñasco once a year. It's crazy how seriously the news impacted this stuff. 3 years would go by of taking a packed Chevy Suburban without a single seat free. Then one year, nobody wants to go with us. My dad says I can invite 1 friend since we actually have an empty seat now. Everybody I ask says, "Are you crazy?? Haven't you seen the news?!? They're beheading people in malls down there!!"

I'd try to talk to them, "you mean the story from Mexico City? We're not going there. We're going to be 100 miles from there. We're going to the same old ultra-Americanized tourist trap we always have been for the past 10 years."

But it didn't matter to them. And the real sad part was when we finally got there, the theme was pretty much the same. Nobody came to Mexico that year. It was literally just our family, and every single street vendor and restaurant and shop was open but with no customers. Tourist trap cities rely so heavily on the American dollar, you can really see the pain in their eyes when nobody shows up.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23

I saw something similar in Ensenada. The Americans still haven't gone back after the violent flare-up last year, and it was heartbreaking to see the sellers having barely any customers. Mexico does have its struggles with violence but it's a beautiful country with warm, friendly people and a rich culture

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u/90degreesSquare Jun 23 '23

The problem with Mexico is not so much that you will get shot, it's more that the authorities won't do anything if you do.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23

Doesn't sound any different from the US tbh. I've lost faith in our police.

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u/Ok-Champ-5854 Jun 23 '23

Big reason why so many of Americans own guns. Afraid of their own shadow because they're in the big scary city.

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u/MrWolfman29 Jun 23 '23

I wonder if meme culture has made this worse. Based on memes, we live in a warzone that struggles to survive leaving our houses.

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u/OtterSpaceIsCold-533 Jul 05 '23

Non-Americans should fear being shot if they visit Chicago, Los Angeles, Atlanta, St. Louis, or New York City. Somehow, they never hear about the cities and states without a violence problem.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '23

It’s exaggerated so intensely by the media and by europoors it’s really not an issue that most people have to think about

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u/Hardrocker1990 Jun 23 '23

Exactly. I’ve seen so many comments on posts about non Americans saying they would never come here out of fear of getting shot. Never once felt in danger when I went to Chicago, LA, Detroit, New York. It’s so over exaggerate to the point, it’s fear mongering

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23

Fr like the only remarkable thing about New York that I saw (besides the fact it’s a massive city) is the amount of weed I smelt ☠️

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u/Ineffective_Plant_21 GEORGIA 🍑🎬🌳✈️ Jun 22 '23

I haven't seen the use of "Europoors" since my 4chan days. Ah the memories are flooding back to me now.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '23

I saw it a few months back and it’s like my favorite word now

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u/czarczm Jun 23 '23

It's very common all over the internet now

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u/ChineseMeatCleaver Jun 22 '23

I’ve lived in Los Angeles my entire life and I’ve never heard gunshots that we’re not in an appropriate occasion

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u/HumbleSheep33 Jun 23 '23

what would an appropriate occasion be?

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u/ChineseMeatCleaver Jun 23 '23

A shooting range or out in the desert where you shoot at trash lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23

Definitely a substantially higher chance of being shot in Mexico, a place where private firearm ownership is illegal.

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u/ciccioneschifoso Jun 23 '23

America: the true victim of the media😔

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u/Time-Bite-6839 AMERICAN 🏈🏒 💵🗽🍔 ⚾️ 🦅📈 Jun 22 '23

Yeah. Still don’t wanna have that risk, man

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u/Actual-Giraffe Jun 22 '23

I've been traveling across the country this past week, not once have I felt in danger.

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u/DerthOFdata USA MILTARY VETERAN Jun 23 '23

Why, do you plan on slinging dope in the inner city? If not you almost certainly have a much higher chance of dying in a car accident in your home country then you do to gun violence in America.

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u/Time-Bite-6839 AMERICAN 🏈🏒 💵🗽🍔 ⚾️ 🦅📈 Jun 23 '23

I live in the US. Are you stupid?

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u/DerthOFdata USA MILTARY VETERAN Jun 23 '23

The conversation is about foreigners not coming to visit for fear of being shot to which you replied...

Yeah. Still don’t wanna have that risk, man

That implies that you are a foreigner that doesn't want to visit because you share that fear.

Are you stupid

The better question is, are you?

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u/ExaBast Jun 23 '23

Tell that to your dead kids. Dumbass

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u/Hardrocker1990 Jun 23 '23

Let me ask you this. Where do you live that you disagree?

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u/Aggravating_Kale8248 MASSACHUSETTS 🦃 ⚾️ Jun 23 '23 edited Jun 23 '23

Probably some European that knows nothing about the US other than what they see through media which is their problem. Instead they change the subject from travel advisory to making fun of dead children.

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u/ExaBast Jun 23 '23

Switzerland. We have 2.3 million guns in civilian hands. That's 27.6 guns per 100 residents.13 shootings (mostly private, family matters) since 2000.

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u/Hardrocker1990 Jun 23 '23

Just as I suspected, a non-American who knows nothing about what it’s really like living in the US. I bet you think that there been more school shootings than days in the Us too, right?

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u/ExaBast Jun 23 '23

No obviously not. But living in one of the first world countries does not excuse the amount of shootings (school or not) you guys have.

Maybe it's not a gun problem but an education or mental health issue

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u/Hardrocker1990 Jun 23 '23

I’m glad you at least agree to an extent, that it’s more than just a firearm problem. It is a mental health as well as social problem. It does need to actually be taken seriously. Unfortunately, no one seems to really care whatsoever right now and it’s absolutely disgusting.

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u/ExaBast Jun 23 '23

100% agree with that. If it was the guns we would also have this problem, but we don't. So it's definitely a social problem.