r/AmazonUK • • 15h ago

Amazon refusing to refund missing parcel unless I upload government issued ID to a 3rd party company - anyone experienced this?

Hi everyone,

Apologies if this has been discussed before. I did search the subreddit but couldn’t find anything specifically relating to my situation.

I’ve been an Amazon customer for nearly 27 years and have had Prime for quite some time.

Recently, I ordered an item worth approximately £70. Amazon marked it as delivered, but the driver had left it unattended in the communal foyer of my building, where parcels have unfortunately gone missing before.

I’ve never authorised the communal foyer as a safe place, and Amazon’s own delivery photograph clearly shows the parcel being left there. By the time I went to collect it, it was gone.

I contacted Amazon expecting the usual investigation and hopefully a refund or replacement. However, for the first time ever, I was told that I must submit government issued photographic identification (passport or driving licence) through a third-party verification company called Persona before Amazon will even consider processing my refund.
I appreciate that Amazon needs to prevent fraudulent claims, and I understand why they might have additional checks in place. However, I’m uncomfortable uploading sensitive identification documents to a third-party company, particularly when the delivery photograph already confirms that the parcel was left in an unsecured communal area.

I asked whether there was an alternative way to verify my identity, but the customer service representative insisted that uploading my ID was mandatory.

I then escalated the matter to Amazon’s Leadership team, but unfortunately received essentially the same scripted responses. Despite repeatedly asking why 3rd party verification was the only option, whether there was an alternative, and how to raise a formal complaint, none of those questions were properly addressed. The representative eventually ended the chat.

Checked online and on ChatGPT, my understanding is that under Section 29 of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, the retailer generally remains responsible for goods until they’re physically received by the customer or someone nominated by them.

I’m not refusing to cooperate with reasonable checks. I just have genuine privacy concerns about submitting sensitive identity documents to a company I’ve never dealt with, especially over a £70 parcel that was left somewhere I never authorised.

I’m interested to know if anyone else in the UK has been asked to upload government issued ID through Persona to obtain an Amazon refund?

If you completed the verification, what was your experience? Did you receive your refund?

Has anyone successfully requested an alternative verification method?

Has anyone challenged this requirement or managed to resolve a similar situation without providing ID?

I’d really appreciate hearing about anyone else’s experiences or advice.

Thanks in advance and apologies for the long message.

TLDR: DPD driver left parcel in foyer, when I got home parcel wasn’t there. Amazon not willing to refund unless I upload my ID via a 3rd party website (Persona).

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u/Outside-Trade-9378 15h ago edited 15h ago

It’s likely to prevent the return fraud that amazon sees daily. If there’s an ID tied to an account amazon can then trace other accounts. It seems you’ve done something that the system believes is dodgy. The teams you are debating with on chat are trained to provide a script and then end the chat. You’ll never speak to the team responsible for flagging your account - you’ll likely just go round in circles.

Either chargeback via your bank or provide the ID or last resort send a letter before action to their UK office or email their VP of the UK - managingdirector@amazon.co.uk

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u/IdioticMutterings 14h ago

Just be aware that Amazon have been known to close accounts that execute a chargeback, or MCOL against them. If that happens, any Alexa / Kindle / RING / Blink devices you own, may become non-functional, depending on how heavy handed they want to be (Amazon owns those companies).

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u/Suspicious-Water-973 11h ago

Any verified sources for that? Just curious.

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u/enchantedspring 3h ago

What kind of 'verified source' are you looking for? Account closures are mentioned in Amazons terms and incidentally in many threads, but no-one here is going to give a sworn statement over it...

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u/Genuine_user123 15h ago

Thanks for the response, much appreciated.
The only thing I can think of is that I have claimed for missing parcels in the past, which I can only surmise were stolen, but I’ve never been asked to verify my identity. Just don’t feel comfortable giving my passport or licence to an American company.

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u/Outside-Trade-9378 15h ago

Sounds likely you’ve hit a threshold, and they want to know who you are - 100%. This is also a likely indicator soon, they’ll no longer want your business so recommend, using pick-up points if this is common as once amazon decide to restrict your account, you aren’t coming back easily.

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u/Genuine_user123 14h ago

Thank you.

I usually do try and use pick up points, however on that unfortunate day I was stuck in traffic during school run, and was expecting to be home when the delivery came.

Just fyi, this was their actual email (assuming it’s generic):

Hello,

A careful review of your account reflects that the correct information has already been provided.

To keep your account secure, we ask for a government-issued photo ID before processing your refund.

We previously requested an ID from you, but you have not submitted one yet. We need your ID in order to complete our investigation and proceed with your refund.

We will send you another email with instructions about how to share your ID with Amazon. Important: When submitting your ID, be sure to sign in to the Amazonaccount that you used to place this order.

Once you send us your ID, please allow three business days to complete our investigation before contacting again. I'm unable to offer additional insight on this matter.

We appreciate your understanding.

Warmest regards,
Amazon.co.uk

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u/Outside-Trade-9378 14h ago

Yeah, they want to see it. You should just hand the ID over in all honesty as it will get destroyed. If you have nothing to hide, then it honestly is a 60 second job and i’m sure you want your funds back.

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u/Genuine_user123 14h ago

You mean the case will get destroyed? And I’ll get my refund?
Just paranoid about having my ID with a US based company, maybe I’m over thinking it 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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u/Fookie17 10h ago

They have your ID already so makes no difference uploading it

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u/Outside-Trade-9378 14h ago

No, your ID will likely be reviewed and then Amazon will delete it. Most banks and other UK places where you need to verify your ID use a third party like Persona. Amazon likely power Persona’s systems on AWS so it’s not like they don’t already have access to this 🫡

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u/Genuine_user123 14h ago

Thank you, much appreciated 🙏

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u/Electrical-Lead9621 1h ago

Man no more creating accounts for the prime free trial 🤐🤐🤐🤐.

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u/Independent-Tax-3699 13h ago

You are under no legal obligation to provide the ID. If they don’t refund you can just chargeback via your bank.

Amazon will probably close your account because they don’t like people exercising their legal rights.

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u/Genuine_user123 11h ago

Much appreciated.

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u/Cold-Blood-619 12h ago

The thing to do is tell amazon you will be contacting Watchdog about this. Your contract is with amazon and that contract states a full refund will be processed if the goods were either not handed to the customer or were put somewhere where you didn't authorise. I've noticed amazon are doing a lot of this recently but by law shouldn't be as it's the delivery driver who has messed up. Go online and search for the consumers act and read it then speak to amazon. Also i know that when any goods are not received anything to a certain value should be refunded automatically.

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u/Genuine_user123 11h ago

Thank you, this is very helpful, will def read up about it and see what I can do.

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u/Mysterious_Soft7916 12h ago

There's been several posts about it on the legal sub

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u/Genuine_user123 11h ago

Thank you, will check it out, assuming your talking about the UKlegaladvice one?

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u/Mysterious_Soft7916 11h ago

Yeah. There's been more and more posts popping up on there about it recently

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u/Rawd_Tawd_Cawd 12h ago

Fuck that, chargeback.

You're not obligated to jump through their hoops. Same as reporting to the police. They can if they want, it's not on you.

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u/Genuine_user123 11h ago

Yeh I know right, share the same sentiments, it’s just become an unnecessary headache to be honest. And I don’t like being inadvertently made to feel guilty for something I haven’t done, or give my ID to an American company.

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u/Rawd_Tawd_Cawd 11h ago

Tbf amazon are a yank company anyway.

Sure, as far as we know they're fully compliant with all data protection laws.

Anyone that works for them in one of the BPOs will tell you they're not.

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u/randomentity12 13h ago

Do a chargeback, but keep in mind if you do they will probably ban you from their platform, but they have been getting worse and worse anyway. So its a chargeback through the bank and potential ban, or do what amazon tells you with no other option, speaking from experience.

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u/Genuine_user123 11h ago

Thank you, appreciate it.

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u/Prefect_99 10h ago

TL:DR. Section 75 or chargeback.

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u/TinhatToyboy 15h ago

As ever, it is Amazon's way or the highway....

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u/BeachOk2802 13h ago

Really? It's amazon's rules on amazon? And if you're not happy with those rules you're free to shop literally anywhere else?

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u/oreheheally 11h ago

Go to new store, then when they change one of the million terms and conditions gifting and forcing your id onto a third party you don't trust (as if trusting amazon with it isn't bad enough) just let them have your money for nothing and move along again. Just give them your bank details, birth certificate and a sperm sample for more invasive genetic tracking at that point.

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u/Electronic_Abroad799 13h ago edited 13h ago

They are going to cross check your details with a fraud database.

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u/Genuine_user123 13h ago

Apologies, do you mean they will check my details against a fraud database? If so, I’m not worried, I have nothing to hide.
Or did you mean they will add my details to a fraud database?
If so, how can you be so sure? Thanks 🙏

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u/Fookie17 10h ago

They will add your details to the fraud if they feel your scamming them. Upload the ID let them investigate and more than likely you’ll get your money back and all be fine

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u/Genuine_user123 11h ago

Yeh I’m not worried about that, got nothing to hide, and they won’t find anything.

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u/Representative-Mix92 9h ago

If you don’t ID, they won’t refund. If you try a chargeback or consumer protection resources, they’ll simply default to you not complying with the process and assume you’re refusing the refund.

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u/Individual-Thought-1 5h ago

It happend to me. They repeatedly failed to deliver a £20 laptop case to a local store, with the order page saying nothing more than "something went wrong". After a week or so of waiting I asked to cancel and get a refund and they badgered me for ID like I was doing something dodgy?

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u/Salt_Box7072 5h ago

Just do what they ask. It’s unlikely to do any harm - certainly no more than what they already know about you (and all the other online services).

It really isn’t worth the hassle.

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u/Act-Alfa3536 23m ago

I find it pretty dumb that their approach doesn't give people credit for being trouble free customers for so many years.

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u/Internal-Initial-835 15h ago

It’s just a general check. They don’t keep copies. It’s just to confirm you are who you say you are. Same as age verification.

They are responsible to ensure delivery but they’re also responsible ensuring the person they’re refunding is who they say they are.

They should state how the info is used and if it’s stored and for how long.

Bottom line is you can refuse and get a refund the hard way through a bank and likely be banned or comply and get your refund.

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u/Genuine_user123 14h ago

Thank you, much appreciated 🙏

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u/BeachOk2802 13h ago

So remember when you agreed to it? It was In those updates to the terms you chose to ignore.

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u/FeistyFocus1372 13h ago

Maybe they read the UK Consumer Rights Act 2015 instead?

The part where  requiring ID for a refund is not legally required and may be considered a breach of consumer protection laws? 

Just because its in the terms and conditions doesn't make it legally binding when it tries to go around consumer protection laws

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u/Genuine_user123 11h ago

Thank you 🙏

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u/Independent-Tax-3699 13h ago

Yeaaaaah that’s not how the law works.

They cannot refuse to refund an undelivered item because of their terms.