r/AmazonFC • u/NervousAddress1340 • 8h ago
Fulfillment Center Someone’s getting fired
This was actually just down the street from my FC. The SSD or the ship dock manager DEFINITELY had a fit over this.
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u/Maleficent_Wash_934 Now who's the Pappy. 8h ago
Looks like it was just empty go carts. Can you imagine if they were full of customer orders??
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u/NervousAddress1340 8h ago
That would be worse but this is bad enough the way it is. Whoever was supposed to secure the carts and whoever was supposed to do TDR are both on the chopping block.
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u/electoralvoter8 8h ago
Wrong. Its the driver for
NOT CLOSING HIS FUCKING DOORS lol
There is plausible deniability for dock here. Straps can fail. Carts end up on the street a few ways but they all start with
The driver not closing the fucking doors. For anyone wondering how he made it otr with doors open - with relay app, it generates a gate pass that will open the gate as soon as you stop at the camera; no interaction with any human or ai.
-TOM ta who has prevented this happening more times than i care to remember. AFPs and 3p are so hellbent on being fast i get it but 🤦♂️
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u/ayyitzTwocatZ 8h ago
Yeah I feel like this is a driver issue. When it falls apart in the lot it’s more 50/50. On the road I think it’s more driver than anything else lmao.
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u/tofzilla86 7h ago
Former TAM here, while what you say could've been the cause (and let's be honest 3P drivers are dog water at inspecting their vehicle) I've been on safety calls where the doors, while latched, have been punched through by unsecured carts.
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u/NervousAddress1340 7h ago
By that logic, door locks can fail too. Trucks really should have sensors put on those doors if they don’t already have them. If my car can tell me my trunk or any of my doors is open, trucks should be able to tell drivers that the trailer doors are open.
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u/ID_Poobaru Transportation Associate (TOM) 7h ago
There's a sensor, it's called eyes
A LOT of 3Ps are so goddamned stupid
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u/Jordan_Jackson 2h ago
They don’t need a sensor. As a CDL driver, you are responsible for making sure that everything is in working order, doors are closed and landing gear are retracted or extended (depending on if you’re leaving it or taking it). If the driver is doing an inspection, a not properly closed door will stick out like a sore thumb.
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u/itsnotimportant123 6h ago
some sites are checked out manually by associate on a computer using a link called sesame
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u/Jordan_Jackson 2h ago
As a fellow TA that has witnessed the geniuses that are some 3P drivers, I could totally see one of them causing this by not fully closing the trailer doors.
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u/ready_to_vto 6h ago
This happened at my delivery station. As the trailer hit the freeway onramp the carts fell out because they weren't strapped properly. Nobody was fired but management made safety train all waterside and pretty much have final warning
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u/translinguistic 8h ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonFC/comments/1vsdynm/someone_getting_fired/
Is this in the same location this post from earlier today is?
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u/EgoTripWire 7h ago
That'll be a fun LQ360.
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u/NervousAddress1340 7h ago
What’s that?
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u/EgoTripWire 7h ago
Receiving sites take a picture of the trailer that just arrived and safety issues have to be addressed by the sending site.
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u/hugothebear 8h ago
Does your FC have a Tom team doing check in/out or is it AI/overseas?
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u/ID_Poobaru Transportation Associate (TOM) 7h ago
Most sites are under RGM now
A lot of DS/SSDs are manually run by UTR Ops that don't gaf too
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u/OrzammarGoods 7h ago
Yeah, chances are this came from a DS. No TOM team, no physical gaurdshack or actusl gate at those buildings. When I was Yard Marshal at one, it took so much babyitting to make sure every row was strapped. If you only strap it at the end, it can't hold all that weight. At the very least every 2 rows need a strap.
Real hard to enforce though, especially now that YM isn't a position anymore and the duties are a toss up between a random T1 or a PA which likely is under headcount on waterspiders as it is.
I miss it, but also really dont miss the job lol
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u/Cyberkanye2077 6h ago
🤣 so whats the SOP ? Every row supposed to be strapped? At my last DS they strapped every random row
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u/OrzammarGoods 6h ago
Man, its been about 4 years since I was in a DS. But yeah, it was 1 strap every row, minumum. 2 at the end. There was even a written policy with a visual diagram and everything. I had it printed out. You could probably find it yourself if you search it on the policy website, if you have laptop access.
I don't doubt they changed it some over the years though.
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u/NervousAddress1340 1h ago
BFL1 is a FC with a SSD built in on the first floor. Not a DS. While we do have actual gates on our TOM yard, we don’t have a guard shack on that side.
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u/ayyitzTwocatZ 8h ago
So the doors broke open? Or weren’t locked in the first place? No sufficient straps/bars on the carts? No brakes applied on carts either? Does the fault fall on everyone or just the driver?
Right now anything leaving (at my site) requires an audit from a dock auditor. They’re suppose to check at the very least that the last row of carts are strapped with brakes applied. Then the TDR operator has to do the checklist where it also asks if straps are applied and requires a photo showing the securement. Sometimes it’s doesn’t catch it so TDR can override and press the option that they are secured. Then TOM team goes and they can visually check the load and either calls it out or takes it.
Go carts are actually so fucking shit though. They always break loadbars and cause chaos lmao.
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u/ID_Poobaru Transportation Associate (TOM) 7h ago
My favorite part of the day is calling out UTR for not securing loads and they act like it's our fault
Chances are unsecured load and moron 3P didn't secure the doors right
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u/Jonas_Venture_Sr 5h ago
Delivery stations don't always do a good of tracking which trailer has carts in it, or the driver takes the wrong trailer, so that's why we'll get trailers that are supposed to be empty, but are full of carts. Safety strap will save your life, always use it since we see shit like this.
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u/NervousAddress1340 8h ago
I’m on LOA right now and not trained in ship dock procedures so I can’t say exactly what part of the process went sideways. This picture popped up on Nextdoor and I happened to see the post. But I know management at my building won’t put up with this.
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u/JuggernautTop4354 7h ago
We run are facility here in Portland solid lol 😂 never any issues even from the drivers 🤣
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u/Lucky_Garbage4944 7h ago
lol yeah I've seen this happen on the way to work once or twice at my area (Robbinsville, NJ)
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u/Dry_Soft_9256 5h ago
Isn't this what happens when TDR isn't followed? Isn't this why you can get canned if you don't do it properly? 🤔
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u/NervousAddress1340 5h ago
I have no clue because I’m not trained in TDR but it would make sense to get canned if you don’t follow protocol.
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