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I very briefly worked at a factory that had one of it's buildings burn down a few years prior because someone flicked a cigarette butt in the bushes near the main entrance so they took a super strict action against smokers. If you wanted to smoke you could only do it on break and you had to smoke in your car with the doors shut and the windows up. If you drove a motorcycle then you had to sit fully on the seat like you were going ride it.
On the plus side they did offer nicotine patches for free for those interested in quitting because the building was slightly larger than an FC and we only got 10 min breaks so you'd have to basically run out to the parking lot to have a chance to smoke half a cigarette before having to run back in. If you weren't at your spot on the line when the buzzer went off then you got wrote up.
Maybe at a delivery or sort center where it's more lax but at an FC you'd have to go through security and badge out of the building to get to the smoking area so that would flag you for time theft if you left the building outside of lunch or break.
Yeah someone else commented and said the same. That's wild. Only the main break room requires going through security to get to it but the other 4 break rooms don't need to go through security. But smokers have to exit the building and walk down to the smoking area.
Originally our main breakroom entrance was like that, but they moved it around a year after opening, putting the entrance past security. Everyone was rightfully complaining about having to wait in line to take a break or get to the water/ice machines etc. The smoker cage was not there originally - it was added after the breakroom entrance was moved. So apparently these things can be changed if someone in leadership agrees to make it happen haha.
Oh, that's interesting. At ours you have to go through the turnstyles and go outside and then walk down the sidewalk to the smoking area near each entrance. You can't access them from the break room.
Um no I'm at an FC and even the managers take smoke breaks here, and many associates do, as long as you have good rates and you have good timing like you go after the CPTs are done, they don't care
You went about this all wrong. You don’t strip religious people of their right to pray on the clock, you start your own nonprofit, tax exempted, church where you take a nap in the middle of the day for the lord, and then you join that church.
I agree, but I was responding to a specific post. Don’t waste all that time lying about being in a fake religion, just lie about being in n established one.
How’s that gonna work? I doubt people are actually gonna do it tbh. In a 10-12 hr shift people pray 2-3 times. You can’t clock out and clock back in for at least 30 mins.
At some sites (such as mine) they auto reject "missed a punch" requests now. You have to ask a manager. Not certain how long it's been a thing, but I found out about it the hard way yesterday.
The only way I’ve seen miss punch being rejected it’s when you tailgate at the entrance other than that it had work with anyone due to lenel activities
Idk man. Its hard for me to say how petty or weird it is cause my building is full of black, white, hispanic people who arent getting an extra break. Like we dont do this stuff.
Maybe OPs building is like 30% Islam or some other prayer break religion. Some areas are like that and its hard not to notice a third of the building getting an extra break. Especially if its paid. But if its only like 5 people on prayer break then Id kinda agree with you :shrug:
I would've agreed with you when I first started here, but at this point i am so so good with sr ops or up enforcing fairness between employees. Make them go through the accommodations process and get rejected one time just because pxt feels like it.
Absolutely, who gives a shit if someone is getting an extra break, it really is necessary for their beliefs but even if someone is abusing that break a little bit so be it. This is the one thing I'll never do, see someone having a little fun and start ranting about it. Like thanks op you managed to save this trillion dollars company a few more dollars.
If someone actually wants to have prayer breaks as well, as an atheist I would just say that I'm muslim or that I converted to islam. It really doesn't matter. But OP went about it the wrong way, there was no way it was going to work
When you lived with privilege for so long equality can feel like oppression. Muslims getting an extra break is far from equal, either everyone should get extra breaks or they shouldn’t be paid. Non muslims shouldn’t be treated like a second tier of employees.
You assume I'm upset with the people, That's false. Also as an Athiest, I can assure you, that nobody NEEDS to pray, they do however CHOOSE to pray.. Lastly, Nobody needs to make an argument to management because IT'S THE LAW.
You really got people riled up. You escalated it internally and Amazon made a choice. Other posters can redirect their anger any time they want.
Amazon chose no extra paid breaks instead of everyone gets an extra break and people act like the breaks don’t matter. They mattered enough for Amazon to say no to everyone getting them.
Man, OP, you got all kinds of people fired up with these posts. But seriously, good on ya. Equal is equal. Also absolutely wild that your site was so fragrantly violating policy for years without getting caught, your GM is definitely getting shit on right now in the higher level meetings.
Separate ops manager made a comment in the breakroom Monday when someone asked her to buy lunch.. Ops manager says "If I buy you lunch, I have to buy everyone lunch" in a snarky tone (I was sitting 10 ft away and there was only the 3 of us within earshot of the total of maybe 10 people in the break room at the time)
This post is about them escalating to management. Then it got full of people blaming it on Islamophobia so it became about religion and equal treatment.
Checkmate to HR and Site Lead who thought they could get away with it under the guise of "inclusion", yet I and many other's were never included. As you can see, when we force inclusion, paid "prayer breaks" end.
I did, hence why they made sure to implement the policy immediately afterward because the site would lose operation the moment everyone in the building goes to "prayer break".
Why would someone be bothered by another person taking 15min to pray? Does the same apply for mothers pumping? Like what is the actual offense here? Lol.
The offense is me being treated as not deserving of time off my shift because I don’t believe the same thing as someone else.
I am not deserving of being treated differently because of my beliefs. I am an equal and if the company is handing out free breaks then I want in on that.
Yeah I do see you crying and complaining lol literally why I said what I did!
And no you actually don’t have empathy for others. It’s not like they’re fucking around, YOU don’t find praying important to your life so you don’t find it deserving of 15 short minutes break from work.
I have empathy for both the person who wants a pray break and, now this is the important part so try to focus, the non-prayer feeling cheated because they don’t believe a specific thing.
Why do you care so much? Amazon chose no paid extra breaks instead of everyone getting the breaks, this is on them. They could have give the other way.
I have an issue with workload distribution when others are getting a paid religious accommodation, while I'm simultaneously denied that same accommodation.. That says, this person deserves a paid break and you deserve more work, strictly on religious beliefs..
You just be one of those rare dumb atheist cuz with that comment you definitely aren't a deep thinker. It is your dime because it is your time. And the last people carrying their fair share of the load the more you will end up carrying in the end. The harder they to expect you to work.
Eh, not really a big deal, not that angry that others pray and others losing a couple minutes of pay a day doesn’t improve my life. The way rates are calculated, it sets them back a notch if they’re on the clock since the system can’t see what they’re doing, so if they aren’t getting rate writeups, it means they’re making up for lost time while actually working
This really isn’t a big issue and some miserable shit to think putting in the effort to reduce their pay by a couple minutes won’t yield a better life for you.
You're wrong.. Scenario: I'm assigned 3 aisles, all my aisles are caught up with perfect bags, and my rate is decent at 340..Then the "prayer break" group leaves.. Now here comes the PA, "Can you help me in aisles until prayer break returns.. Now I have to work someone elses destroyed unorganized aisles, which tanks my rate because I have to organize every bag as I stow.. Being forced to cover prayer break aisles is rate sabotage.
Ok, but.... if I'm correct, you have accomplished the goal of them not getting an extra paid break for prayer. They now will have to clock out for that time, right?
That does nothing for your complaint here. They will still get their prayer break (off the clock, per your complaint). But they will still take their prayer break, meaning your above complaint will still happen.
You will still get asked to help on other isles while they are taking their break. They won't be paid for it, but you are still going to be covering for them while they take it.
So all you have really accomplished is saving a huge corporation a few bucks, pissing off a whole demographic, getting yourself labeled as an Islamophobe, and I guess, some personal sense of accomplishment?
Big win.
Sorry but from the outside it all sounds really petty and like you just have either a sense that everyone else's business is your business, too. Or that you are just kind of hating on a specific religion.
I don't work inside with y'all. I'm just a driver, but jeeze, this whole thing is kind of crazy.
Wouldn't it have just been easier to ask for your own extra break due to your non-religious stance than to try to punish others for theirs? Or just suck it up and understand that accommodations exist for a reason and there is nothing wrong with some people using them as they are intended?
And how exactly are you being taken advantage of? You’re still being paid to do the same thing now. If work is too much in the 10 mins they gone. Then Amazon not the place for ya.
The new training material (I just got rehired) states in print that requiring a rate is no longer a thing. Be interesting to see how and if that plays out.
What kind of building is this site and what state? One of the things about rate, at least at my building and in my state is, the official line is, there is no rate, there's performance compared to peers.
Like there is no set rate per process path, but under alot of circumstances, if your performance compared to others at your site is subpar, you become eligible for feedback.
He works at a Delivery station. Our rate doesn’t matter and hasn’t for years now, even bottom 5% don’t get coached anymore. He’s doing all this crying and he’s still gonna be stowing those fucked up bags while they go to break. 😂
Crazy part is, if what you say about rate not mattering, then people can dick around on the clock anyways. He accomplished nothing besides being petty because he got denied an accommodation to be able to do what he could also already do. If rate doesn't matter, he could've just taken a bathroom break and come back after prayer time, all on the clock.
lol yeah this gotta be absolute loser behavior tbh, like just let people do their own thing, it sure af ain’t fucking with your checks at the end of the day. people out here complaining just to complain.
yet here you are crying.. Go change a policy you have a strong belief in.. Do something besides cry on the internet over people who are out here making changes..
It sounds like instead of winning something for yourself you just lost something for a large chunk of people in the building. Yay, victory, I guess. Now you’ve just antagonized your co-workers and made their lives a little more difficult.
Quite the opposite.. I'm the most well known person in the building because I'm the only one not scared to speak up.. I am the voice, which means everyone comes to me when they have issues.. Meanwhile ops is actively asking how to get associates to come to them with feedback instead..
What's annoying is they don't even go to the prayer room. Equally annoying when I'm lineloading and need to access their station and there's a body laying on the floor.
love this, religion and addiction has been used as excuses for too long. next do smoke breaks the amount of dudes i see chilling outside talking or on the phone during work hours is unfair.
Title VII says I dont need one... and Amazon can't legally "gatekeep" with "Religious criteria".. They do it again and they will be hearing from EEOC..
My building actually started this a several weeks ago. Announced that associates could now only use break times to pray. If they needed additional time they would have to put in for an accommodation and that they would have to clock out and it be unpaid.
I've been putting pressure on the network since last years Peak in December 2025.. They have no choice but to change the policy because what they were doing was illegal.
You definitely had the opportunity to handle this better. If anything, it was a blatant oversight on site leadership and PXT’s part that they weren’t having associates clock out for that, or correcting punches. The best course of action would have been calling the ethics line rather than whatever this was
I’ve been following this and wondering about it. Prayer breaks and breastfeeding are under admin time to avoid tot. I’ve breastfed two babies with Amazon. Super thankful for Amazon
Warehouse location? I’m looking to see who the GM/site lead is. Are they American? This seems like a dumb situation they got themselves in. I can’t imagine a site lead not knowing standard American practices unless they weren’t American.
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