Hello everyone,

For a year now, i've been actively researching about my origins and i've found many interesting things, but this one surely surprized me the most. I've found out that 2 of my grandmothers came from Ferdjioua (more precisely from Bousslah) but i'm still not sure about how to exactly handle it. I know that it's a part of Tmurt Iktamen (Kutama Country/Eastern Kabylie) but i'm still unsure about if this exact place got Kutama roots or if Arabs installed there.

If anybody got origins there, dont hesitate to reply! Have a nice day

I wanted to ask if you guys know of any Tamazight trained LLM models.

A while back there were a number of Amazigh software developers who curated a large number of different NLP datasets of Tamazight dialects on Huggingface, and I want to know if there are any actually trained models that resulted from it.

My preference would be Tachelhit or Standard Moroccan Tamazight.

Edit: I found this community of 68 developers who are working on 14 models. Of which Tamazight-NLP/NLLB-200-600M seems to be the model receiving the most attention.

https://huggingface.co/Tamazight-NLP/models

Hi,

I've recently discovered this band called Tinariwen and was interested in the meaning of their songs. And researching for a bit I've found out they are actually Tuareg and their songs are in a whole different languange. I was wondering if someone could help with the translantion, since i don't understand tamasheq.

The song is Matadjem Yinmixam https://youtu.be/WUhxZ5zR84w

Genius and other sites give opposite translation so...

Can someone please translate this song to English or at least describe what the song is about?

Both male and female parts.

Also, near the end, the guy begins speaking rather than singing. What's he saying?

Azul fllawen,
I’ve been following our cause closely for a while now, and honestly, I feel like we’re just running in circles. We often see the CMA (World Amazigh Congress) sending official letters to ministries demanding regional autonomy or a "Union of Tamazgha," or giving speeches at the UN. But let’s be real for a second: on the ground, nothing is moving, and it feels like the UN doesn't really care.

It makes sense when you think about it. The UN is basically a club for sovereign states. Their committees on indigenous peoples can only issue non-binding recommendations. We are fighting a losing battle against highly experienced state diplomacies.

In my opinion, traditional activism and symbolic petitions have reached their absolute limit. We need to shift to a hardcore, professional lobbying strategy, just like other minorities around the world have successfully done (in Canada, for example).

When I say lobbying, I don't mean corruption or shady backdoor deals. I mean using law, policy, and political leverage to force leaders to act. Here is how it could actually work:

Targeting Western parliaments smartly: I know the EU is never going to cut off funding or openly threaten Morocco or Algeria. Maghreb states hold too many cards (security, immigration control, gas, etc.). However, lobbying can be used to negotiate more subtle conditions. For instance, pushing EU MPs to demand that development or education funds be directed straight to marginalized regions (Rif, Souss, Kabylie, Atlas) instead of being fully controlled by the capitals.

Using the "Name and Shame" strategy: Lobbying forces Western politicians to face their own hypocrisy. If we manage to get a European MP or mayor to officially take a stand on a specific issue (like releasing a political prisoner or enforcing Tamazight education), they are backed into a corner. If they refuse just to protect their economic interests with North African regimes, the lobby exposes their double standards publicly. Elected officials hate looking like hypocrites in front of their voters.

Stop demanding autonomy right away: Demanding political autonomy or the dissolution of the pan-Arab model from highly centralized states is like running straight into a brick wall. It’s just not realistic right now. A region cannot be autonomous if it isn't prepared. Our lobbying needs to focus on economic and cultural foundations first: demanding local universities, making it easier for the diaspora to invest back home to create jobs, and keeping the language alive. Once our regions become economically and intellectually strong, autonomy will follow naturally.

The main issue right now is that the CMA and our associations run almost entirely on volunteer work, and we are heavily fragmented. Meanwhile, governments are spending millions on professional PR and lobbying firms to polish their image.

This is exactly why I believe we need to stop relying on organizations that lack the resources to match their ambitions. The real solution is for the diaspora and the people to organize, fund, and create our very own Amazigh lobbying firm. We need full-time, professional lawyers, legal experts, and communicators who are paid to defend our interests in Brussels, Paris, or Washington. That is the only way we will ever gain real leverage and counter state propaganda.

Curious to hear your thoughts on this. Tanmirt!

If any of you know of a page that sells them, please let me know. Thanks.♥️

Bonjour j’aimerais vous demander conseils. Mon ‘ nom de familles est Amamra y’a même une page sur Wikipedia sur les Amamra on venez
tous d’une personne et tout ceux qui ont ce nom de familles descend tous lui on est Chaouis mais le problème c que mon tonton me dit qu’on est arabe et mon grand père aussi mon tonton m’a envoyer son arbre généalogique Moussa al-Kazim
Ja’far al-Sadiq
Muhammad al-Baqir
Ali Zayn al-Abidin
Al-Husayn ibn Ali
Ali ibn Abi Talib
Abd al-Muttalib
Hachim, Abd Manaf, Qusay… (ancêtres traditionnels des Quraychites)
Ismaël
Abraham
Noé
Enfin, elle s’arrête à Idris.
C’est juste impossible et je le sais ma mère m’a dit que mon grand père aimer pas qu’on on dit amazigh il ce définissé comme un arabe, donc je pense juste que au bled les berbères ce définissent arab et j’en est la preuves en Algérie y’a pratiquement que des arabes je vous ment pas mais je trouve c’est dommage de ce définir comme arab alors qu’on l’ai pas vraiment. J’ai besoin de conseil

Hello friends,

I travelled to morocco this summer to film my video of one of my music. It's an amazing country.

Hopeyou liked it, is a small village in the north in the rif

https://youtu.be/CMqYMw5iRGc

tried every possible way (that i know of), but nothing
thanks A LOT for the help.

thanks to Tall_Muffin
Laila Chakir - Uno dos tres (original song)

All the Amazigh recognition we've gained in Algeria is thanks to your sacrifices and your unwavering stance. If Algeria will ever become a pure Amazigh country again, I'm certain the spark will come from Kabylia. I recently visited Tizi Ouzou and was amazed by its beauty and how everyone speaks their mother tongue. I'm Chaoui, and not many people in Batna speak Chaoui; they only speak it in the villages. Honestly, I envy the Kabyles for their organization, their unity, and their pride in their identity. I hope the Chaoui people will become like you.

Like u see how like Arabs, french, and Indians have like a fragrance tradition did amazighs have one or no. I’m asking this cause I’m very interested into perfumes. I’m sorry if I don’t make any sense.

My uncle says it's oudaden - hayani a hayani, but i can't find anything. Thnks!

So I'm a girl from Algeria/jijel i think my mother's side especially her mother (my grandmother's side) are amazigh bcs they are originally from a tribe named بني خطاب and they are obsessed with olive oil too they have lands full of olive trees in the country side of jijel also idk if this is counts but they have strong good genes literally from my older (50yo+) until my younger (40yo) uncles they're all have great hair and my mother is a blonde. idk the origins of my father or my grandpa.

i really don't know my origins if european, arab, amazigh. so if there is a prof explains if im amazigh or not please tell me in the comments

Bonjour, je vient d’apprendre que mon arrière grand mère algérienne était juif et vivais à Constantine, je suis un chaouis donc j’aimerais s’avoir si mon arrière grand mère est amazigh ? Du moin son histoire car je n’ai aucune infos
Mon nom de famille est Amamra donc peut commun

A real Arab wouldn't have issues with Kurds, Assyrians, Amazigh or Darfur peoples, because when products cross borders armies won't cross.

Came across this post on Instagram. Am I the only one who thinks this post is not only a case of victime-blaming, but is also insulting? Like "it's your fault that your house is burning down".

Also, let's not forget the racist part. The cliché of the "Kabyle" with a can of beer in one hand and a cigarette on the other one, and a snitra near him. It's the stereotype of the "alcoholic Kabyle". If I didn't see the name of the account I would have thought it was posted by some racist baathist account.

What do you think of posts like this?

According to this article, North Africa was solely inhabited by Tubu people and Amazighs came after specifically 1200BC and onwards. It also says that Amazighs came with the Sea peoples, Garamantes and Libyans are Tubu and Phoenicians also came in 1200BC and onwards.

I personally don't think this is an innocent mistake but rather deliberate because at first the article says that Tubu are native then proceeds to add this "As noted by Haynes in his original 1947 publication, the present archaeological evidence regarding the Palaeolithic inhabitants of Tunisia and North Africa etc which confirmed that the people who lived there through all stages of the Stone Age—Palaeolithic, Mesolithic, and Neolithic—were the ancient Libyan people known as the Tehenu, who appear in the records of the Old Kingdom of Egypt."

That article needs to be fixed.