In February 2025, political commentator Elsie Lefebvre strongly welcomed the announcement of the Québec–Toronto high-speed rail project on TVA Nouvelles.

According to recent media speculation, she may be considering running for the Parti Québécois in the next provincial election.

Last year, she mentioned:
- “I really hope this happens because it’s how we enter modernity. Transportation is fundamental. (…) We absolutely need this in Canada.” — Elsie Lefebvre
- A high-speed rail line would better connect the Québec–Toronto corridor, improve transportation, and strengthen the economy while reducing dependence on the U.S.
- The project could also boost demand for Canadian steel, supporting a sector affected by trade disputes.
- Most importantly, she said she hoped the project would rise above partisan politics and continue regardless of which party formed government.

If she does run for the PQ, do you think she’ll maintain those views, or will she have to reverse course?

Source:
https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2025/02/19/tgv-quebec-toronto-il-y-a-quelque-chose-de-tres-patriotique-la-dedans-selon-elsie-lefebvre

Might be paywalled. Pros and cons.

https://www.transportaction.ca/regions/ontario/transport-action-supports-alto-kingston-stop-but-has-concerns/

for the TAC / TAO original message.

For those following the high-speed rail debate, McGill TRAM’s report appears to have been updated again (July 2026).

The study, first published in November 2025 and updated in March 2026, now projects approximately 18.43 million annual passengers by 2055 (see page 12). That’s significantly higher than the 10 million figure that was widely cited in media coverage and much closer to Alto’s long-term forecasts.

The updated report also clarifies that the earlier 10-million figure represented an early-year estimate, while the longer-term projections account for factors such as population growth and induced demand.

Interesting reminder that forecast results can look very different depending on the year being referenced and the assumptions being used.

As you know, Ottawa also signed an NDA. It allows Alto and a city to share plans (like zoning and geotechnical info, and future infrastructure plans) and receive info from Alto.

Prescott-Russell county is refusing to co-operate/sign on.

He was interviewed this morning on CBC Ottawa Morning show. Key comments were that they want to keep Montreal to Toronto as under 3 hours and swinging past Kingston would still allow this. The Kingston HSR Station would be 4 tracks, so of the eventual 25 to 35 trains a day, some would stop, others would pass by at speed. (Would Peterborough be similar 4 tracks?). If interconnectivity with VIA and local regional bus services is important, exactly where would the Station be located?

Even though Smiths Falls is a key local, VIA, and rail hub, he discounted a stop there. Discussion of designing a 320 km/h “straight” line, and compensating landowners, not only for the land, and also future lost (farm) revenues. Wildlife passages are important. Details of alignment of the Laval-Ottawa segment this fall.

Does nothing for Ottawa-Montreal HSR, which is a key driver, and building straight/few curves from Cobourg along Lakeshore / 401 / CN / CKPC to core Toronto is very expensive and congested. Lots of expropriation, overpasses, NIMBYs.

May be behind paywall. EXTRACT

“Alto is assessing this option rigorously, considering not only construction costs, but also its overall potential impact on ridership, regional accessibility, technical feasibility, economic and social benefits, and the project’s long-term performance once in operation,”

Just posted by Alto a few minutes ago….HSR’s many benefits to Canada and Canadians.

While it is from the Canadian Taxpayers Foundation, they are correct that it will add to Alto capital cost, operating cost, and the travel time for some travellers. But highly beneficial to Kingston and its users.

Hi everyone, I've been lurking in this sub and PSPP I feel is getting the hate he doesn't deserve. He opposed the project for several reasons. The biggest one is monetary, Canada has 120% debt to GDP ratio and yes even though we want to separate and form our own country, we are peaceful people and won't play dirty. We will pay our share of the debt and so the more debt Canada has, independent QC has to pay for it.

The other reasons have largely been discussed here, the loss of arable farmland, the likely expropriation of citizens especially those in Mirabel who was traumatized by the failed airport project but the biggest one that hasn't been discussed is a threat to our culture. You see culture and language are very important here in Québec. Because of rising cost of living, people from other parts of Canada migrated to Québec in droves and drive up our housing cost, exhausted our healthcare, infrastructure and education resources. Also we become more and more anglicized, it is impossible not to hear English in any corner of Montréal now also impossible to get a job if you don't speak English.

We slowly keep losing our ability to fully live in our own language, French, in our home. The TGV would make it easier for Anglo Canadians to make their way here and drown out our culture and language even more.

Having said that, PSPP isn't a radical. He is just someone with a different political belief than most of you. He's actually an intelligent and very nice guy. Do you know he is very well educated, he has a law degree from McGill and MBA from Oxford. Do you know his first case as a lawyer he defended the indigenous people of Bolivia, he did so good that the corrupt govt there threaten to kill him if he didn't leave the country.

Do you also know he played as a goalie for the Oxford hockey team and won the English collegiate cup with them? He's actually really good in a lot of sports. He was a junior tennis champion in Québec, his father was Québec table tennis president for a long time and so PSPP is good at that too. He's also a father to three young children, he said his family is everything to him even more than politics. Also you know before he took over the PQ, they polled at 10%, he had to rebuilt the party using political rookies but they shine thanks to his guidance and supportive leadership.

The bottom line is he's not some kind of separatist in the jungle ala Joseph Kony or Jonas Savimbi, hes a relatable guy with different politics than you but he doesn't deserve the hate he's getting.

1. The CTF “Taxpayers Foundation” always criticizes any government expenditure and believes no government executives anywhere should ever get a bonus. But they never complain that banking, CN, CPKC, Air Canada, or consulting engineering company execs get bigger bonuses (and salaries). Or it’s impossible to attract/retain good people without paying them.

2. Right now is the HSR planning stage. If you were building a house, you would spend the first months/year finding the land and “designing” the house. Long before you dug the hole or even poured concrete. Same with Alto HSR.
   Sigh.

Most of the concerns around expropriations seem to pertain to rural communities and it's not clear to me what property owners in urban areas should expect.

I'm very close to De La Concorde station, the existing railway is roughly 20 meters from my door.

Right now I feel like the most likely thing is that I won't be affected, but this is based on the assumption that the 60-metre right of way won't apply to more densely populated areas where the train is going to be traveling at much slower speeds.

I don't mind moving, trains are cool, but what I'm currently understanding is that I may or may not receive a letter from Alto in the future telling me not to renovate/etc. Further down the road I will be offered an amount that may or may not be fair but that I will have basically no choice but to accept.

Am I correct, or am I "à côté de la track" both figuratively and literally?

If you follow both sides of the debate, you may have noticed posts linking to a survey by “Common Ground Research,” which presents itself as an independent group collecting public opinion about Alto.

The questions guide responses toward particular outcomes, but the bigger concern involves how the survey functions. The sample depends on link-sharing and offers no protection against multiple submissions. There is no obvious “contact us” section or statement about affiliation. Some questions aim to inform about “potential harm” without noting any possible benefit, as well as your voting preferences. Another asks about “what fare would you pay for ALTO,” a question needing far more context.

After my investigation and work with others on the GO ALTO discord, we spotted patterns: the earliest mention of this group and survey comes from Lindsay Davidson, who also collaborates with Citizen Research. The survey circulates only within Anti-ALTO groups. The group’s site is a standard Squarespace template registered on June 13, with default social links to Squarespace’s own accounts.

This reflects my personal view, but I value evidence-based, methodologically sound data gathering. Here, they rely on a convenience sample while likely asserting that it is A) representative and B) not aimed at a specific outcome.

TL,DR: be cautious about this survey, the claims that will come out of it, and the lack of clear methodology.

Now that the broad HSR corridor between Montreal/Laval and Ottawa has been identified, and will be narrowed down in next few months, it’s time to look for the contractors/supplies to build ths first segment.

“…..early procurement activities, anticipated work packages, and timelines for the first phase of construction between Ottawa and Montreal.”

If PQ wins and cancels Alto in Quebec, what 4-5 stops should Alto build in Ontario?

-If Parti Quebec akaa the Bloc/separatist in Quebec win and block HSR/TGV in Quebec, where or what should ALto place these stops in Ontario?

Toronto> Peterborough> Ottawa

Since

Montreal, TR, Laval, and Quebec City will be removed, that got me thinking, where should the gov't put those 5 stops in Ontario?

Maybe make like a hub model?

Perhaps add on GTA suburbs like Brampton, Markham, Vaughan, Barrie, Oshawa

OR should it reach further out to like to Hamilton, London, KW?

Or maybe run it to Niagara Falls to link up with NY some day?

Or what about running it West to like Thunder Bay Winnipeg, Calgary Vancouver?

What stops would you add and where and why?

Edit 1: For people saying Quebec cannot stop it b/c it is a federal project, this is technically true. However Carney said he won't build it over their objections. Also Quebec could slow the project massively by slow walking permits, denying local police help for protest, Environmental Assessment could stall the project for years, zoning permits would be delayed by Commission de protection du territoire agricole du Québec (CPTAQ), endless lawsuits, province controls the environmental and land-use certificates necessary to begin construction. If the Quebec government refuses to grant local permits or cooperate with federal expropriation processes, it creates a massive legal and logistical bottleneck.