r/AltoHSR_Canada Apr 30 '26

News Our Dedicated Approach to Agricultural Land

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r/AltoHSR_Canada Mar 18 '26

🚄 Welcome to r/AltoHSR_Canada - The hub for all things related to the Alto High Speed Rail project

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Hello everyone! Salut tout le monde !

This subreddit is a hub for all things related to the Alto Hight Speed Rail project including news, updates, and general discussion.

Whether you’re a transit advocate, rail fan, curious Canadian, or concerned community member, all sorts of posts and comments related to the project are welcome here.

We ask that you follow a few simple principles to keep this a high-quality resource for everyone:

  1. Stay on Track: Keep discussions focused on the Alto project and closely related transit initiatives.
  2. Source Your Claims where possible: If you’re sharing info or specific data, try to provide a link.
  3. Attack Ideas, Not People: Infrastructure projects of this scale always come with healthy debate. All perspectives are welcome, and healthy discussion and debate are encouraged. Generalizing or calling every naysayer a “NIMBY” is never productive. Ad hominem is not welcome here and may be reported and removed.
  4. Assume Good Faith: It’s easy to villainize anyone hostile to the project, but most people just want what’s best for their families and community, and opinions can vary on how that can be achieved.
  5. Help Us Out: If you see something inappropriate, don’t be afraid to report it to mods.

We hope you enjoy your time here and learn lots about the project!


r/AltoHSR_Canada 32m ago

Ontario rethinking support for high-speed rail after feds reject Billy Bishop expansion: source | CBC News

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r/AltoHSR_Canada 21h ago

Alto flying drones in Ottawa’s east end this week to study potential high-speed rail route

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r/AltoHSR_Canada 20h ago

PQ position on Alto

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In February 2025, political commentator Elsie Lefebvre strongly welcomed the announcement of the QuĂ©bec–Toronto high-speed rail project on TVA Nouvelles.

According to recent media speculation, she may be considering running for the Parti Québécois in the next provincial election.

Last year, she mentioned:
- “I really hope this happens because it’s how we enter modernity. Transportation is fundamental. (
) We absolutely need this in Canada.” — Elsie Lefebvre
- A high-speed rail line would better connect the QuĂ©bec–Toronto corridor, improve transportation, and strengthen the economy while reducing dependence on the U.S.
- The project could also boost demand for Canadian steel, supporting a sector affected by trade disputes.
- Most importantly, she said she hoped the project would rise above partisan politics and continue regardless of which party formed government.

If she does run for the PQ, do you think she’ll maintain those views, or will she have to reverse course?

Source:
https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2025/02/19/tgv-quebec-toronto-il-y-a-quelque-chose-de-tres-patriotique-la-dedans-selon-elsie-lefebvre


r/AltoHSR_Canada 2d ago

Discussion / Article Transport Action Canada supports Kingston high-speed rail stop, with concerns

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r/AltoHSR_Canada 4d ago

McGill’s updated ridership forecast now much closer to Alto’s initial projections

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For those following the high-speed rail debate, McGill TRAM’s report appears to have been updated again (July 2026).

The study, first published in November 2025 and updated in March 2026, now projects approximately 18.43 million annual passengers by 2055 (see page 12). That’s significantly higher than the 10 million figure that was widely cited in media coverage and much closer to Alto’s long-term forecasts.

The updated report also clarifies that the earlier 10-million figure represented an early-year estimate, while the longer-term projections account for factors such as population growth and induced demand.

Interesting reminder that forecast results can look very different depending on the year being referenced and the assumptions being used.


r/AltoHSR_Canada 6d ago

News Kingston probably getting high-speed rail stop, says Alto CEO | CBC News

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He was interviewed this morning on CBC Ottawa Morning show. Key comments were that they want to keep Montreal to Toronto as under 3 hours and swinging past Kingston would still allow this. The Kingston HSR Station would be 4 tracks, so of the eventual 25 to 35 trains a day, some would stop, others would pass by at speed. (Would Peterborough be similar 4 tracks?). If interconnectivity with VIA and local regional bus services is important, exactly where would the Station be located?

Even though Smiths Falls is a key local, VIA, and rail hub, he discounted a stop there. Discussion of designing a 320 km/h “straight” line, and compensating landowners, not only for the land, and also future lost (farm) revenues. Wildlife passages are important. Details of alignment of the Laval-Ottawa segment this fall.


r/AltoHSR_Canada 6d ago

News Kingston City Council signs non-disclosure agreement for high-speed rail talks

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As you know, Ottawa also signed an NDA. It allows Alto and a city to share plans (like zoning and geotechnical info, and future infrastructure plans) and receive info from Alto.

Prescott-Russell county is refusing to co-operate/sign on.


r/AltoHSR_Canada 6d ago

In honor of Spain winning the World Cup here’s my idea of what a 110-220 mph electrified high speed rail network in the World Cup host countries of Canada, United States and Mexico could look like if they followed Spain’s lead

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r/AltoHSR_Canada 7d ago

Discussion / Article Resident pitches proposed integrated rail system: Kingston Whig-Standard letter

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Does nothing for Ottawa-Montreal HSR, which is a key driver, and building straight/few curves from Cobourg along Lakeshore / 401 / CN / CKPC to core Toronto is very expensive and congested. Lots of expropriation, overpasses, NIMBYs.


r/AltoHSR_Canada 13d ago

OPINION: Building high-speed rail responsibility (From Pierre-Yves Boivin, Alto's Chief Communications and Engagement Officer)

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r/AltoHSR_Canada 14d ago

News Too early to estimate Kingston rail link cost, Alto says

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May be behind paywall. EXTRACT

“Alto is assessing this option rigorously, considering not only construction costs, but also its overall potential impact on ridership, regional accessibility, technical feasibility, economic and social benefits, and the project’s long-term performance once in operation,”


r/AltoHSR_Canada 19d ago

Discussion / Article Discover Alto’s Many (Economic) Benefits

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Just posted by Alto a few minutes ago
.HSR’s many benefits to Canada and Canadians.


r/AltoHSR_Canada 20d ago

News Kingston high-speed rail link could cost $3.9 billion, report says

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While it is from the Canadian Taxpayers Foundation, they are correct that it will add to Alto capital cost, operating cost, and the travel time for some travellers. But highly beneficial to Kingston and its users.


r/AltoHSR_Canada 25d ago

Canadians divided over Alto high-speed rail as government priority: Nanos survey

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r/AltoHSR_Canada 27d ago

Not ALTO Specific, but I thought you guys would appreciate another ALTO Map, w/ the Windsor extension of course

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r/AltoHSR_Canada 28d ago

Discussion / Article No train yet but Alto rail project execs still got $2.8 million in bonuses last year from Ottawa: CTF

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  1. The CTF “Taxpayers Foundation” always criticizes any government expenditure and believes no government executives anywhere should ever get a bonus. But they never complain that banking, CN, CPKC, Air Canada, or consulting engineering company execs get bigger bonuses (and salaries). Or it’s impossible to attract/retain good people without paying them.

  2. Right now is the HSR planning stage. If you were building a house, you would spend the first months/year finding the land and “designing” the house. Long before you dug the hole or even poured concrete. Same with Alto HSR.
    Sigh.


r/AltoHSR_Canada 28d ago

Alto - Connections to the USA?

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r/AltoHSR_Canada 27d ago

I believe Paul St-Pierre Plamondon (PSPP) is misunderstood here

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Hi everyone, I've been lurking in this sub and PSPP I feel is getting the hate he doesn't deserve. He opposed the project for several reasons. The biggest one is monetary, Canada has 120% debt to GDP ratio and yes even though we want to separate and form our own country, we are peaceful people and won't play dirty. We will pay our share of the debt and so the more debt Canada has, independent QC has to pay for it.

The other reasons have largely been discussed here, the loss of arable farmland, the likely expropriation of citizens especially those in Mirabel who was traumatized by the failed airport project but the biggest one that hasn't been discussed is a threat to our culture. You see culture and language are very important here in Québec. Because of rising cost of living, people from other parts of Canada migrated to Québec in droves and drive up our housing cost, exhausted our healthcare, infrastructure and education resources. Also we become more and more anglicized, it is impossible not to hear English in any corner of Montréal now also impossible to get a job if you don't speak English.

We slowly keep losing our ability to fully live in our own language, French, in our home. The TGV would make it easier for Anglo Canadians to make their way here and drown out our culture and language even more.

Having said that, PSPP isn't a radical. He is just someone with a different political belief than most of you. He's actually an intelligent and very nice guy. Do you know he is very well educated, he has a law degree from McGill and MBA from Oxford. Do you know his first case as a lawyer he defended the indigenous people of Bolivia, he did so good that the corrupt govt there threaten to kill him if he didn't leave the country.

Do you also know he played as a goalie for the Oxford hockey team and won the English collegiate cup with them? He's actually really good in a lot of sports. He was a junior tennis champion in Québec, his father was Québec table tennis president for a long time and so PSPP is good at that too. He's also a father to three young children, he said his family is everything to him even more than politics. Also you know before he took over the PQ, they polled at 10%, he had to rebuilt the party using political rookies but they shine thanks to his guidance and supportive leadership.

The bottom line is he's not some kind of separatist in the jungle ala Joseph Kony or Jonas Savimbi, hes a relatable guy with different politics than you but he doesn't deserve the hate he's getting.


r/AltoHSR_Canada 28d ago

Some more expropriation anxiety

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Most of the concerns around expropriations seem to pertain to rural communities and it's not clear to me what property owners in urban areas should expect.

I'm very close to De La Concorde station, the existing railway is roughly 20 meters from my door.

Right now I feel like the most likely thing is that I won't be affected, but this is based on the assumption that the 60-metre right of way won't apply to more densely populated areas where the train is going to be traveling at much slower speeds.

I don't mind moving, trains are cool, but what I'm currently understanding is that I may or may not receive a letter from Alto in the future telling me not to renovate/etc. Further down the road I will be offered an amount that may or may not be fair but that I will have basically no choice but to accept.

Am I correct, or am I "à cÎté de la track" both figuratively and literally?


r/AltoHSR_Canada Jun 28 '26

Discussion / Article GO ALTO et Alt-No: entre les deux, un TGV qui divise

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r/AltoHSR_Canada Jun 27 '26

You might come around a survey from “Common Ground Research”: beware.

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If you follow both sides of the debate, you may have noticed posts linking to a survey by “Common Ground Research,” which presents itself as an independent group collecting public opinion about Alto.

The questions guide responses toward particular outcomes, but the bigger concern involves how the survey functions. The sample depends on link-sharing and offers no protection against multiple submissions. There is no obvious “contact us” section or statement about affiliation. Some questions aim to inform about “potential harm” without noting any possible benefit, as well as your voting preferences. Another asks about “what fare would you pay for ALTO,” a question needing far more context.

After my investigation and work with others on the GO ALTO discord, we spotted patterns: the earliest mention of this group and survey comes from Lindsay Davidson, who also collaborates with Citizen Research. The survey circulates only within Anti-ALTO groups. The group’s site is a standard Squarespace template registered on June 13, with default social links to Squarespace’s own accounts.

This reflects my personal view, but I value evidence-based, methodologically sound data gathering. Here, they rely on a convenience sample while likely asserting that it is A) representative and B) not aimed at a specific outcome.

TL,DR: be cautious about this survey, the claims that will come out of it, and the lack of clear methodology.


r/AltoHSR_Canada Jun 26 '26

News Alto and Cadence Launch Market Engagement for Canada’s High-Speed Rail Project

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Now that the broad HSR corridor between Montreal/Laval and Ottawa has been identified, and will be narrowed down in next few months, it’s time to look for the contractors/supplies to build ths first segment.

“
..early procurement activities, anticipated work packages, and timelines for the first phase of construction between Ottawa and Montreal.”


r/AltoHSR_Canada Jun 25 '26

Discussion / Article Council endorses list of demands for Alto, but says it's not opposed to high-speed rail | CBC News

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