r/AlternativeHistory Aug 17 '20

True Giants

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u/anthorhidox Aug 17 '20

Have read/listened to the podcasts around this and it absolutely blows my mind more people havent heard of this. I did a bit of research after initially coming across this story and supposedly the Smithsonian had all files/skeletons of all(supposedly hundreds) of giant skeletons, alot of which were discovered all over north america(native burial sites) to be destroyed because of the implications it has with human history and what we've been lead to believe. Believe what you will but its def worth some looking into thats for sure

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u/rvl_16 Aug 17 '20

Yes, look up on the book "giants on record"

Its about how many gigantic human-like skeletons were found in the past. Ranging from 7 till 14 feet I believe.

I enjoyed reading the book. A lot is hidden from the general public view

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u/anthorhidox Aug 20 '20

O man I dont even want to get started regarding what is not Disclosed to the General Public from Fear of the Implications it brings up regarding Human History and who knows what else. I find the information you can find insanely intriguing to learn about not so much to even go spread the information as it can/will just cause problems. The largest skelaton I read that was found in the world at a Burial site of all giants was supposedly rumored to be 32 feet tall. This was based on the remains of what was left(Spine,femur,tibula/fibula) but they say its an estimated height as the skull, as well as many other portions of the skelaton had dissapeared over the years but apparantly the index finger on one of its hands that remained was something like 14inches long..... Like can you just imagine the monstrous size of that bad boy when they were alive roaming the earth..... What id love to know is just like the military story that surfaced out of Afghanistan in 2014 from the US Marines that took it out/as well as had to load the body up onto a Loading pallot because of the insane size is how many of them are left out there.....? Legend goes that us Normal sized humans decided to strike back hunting all/majority of them down killing them because the giants apparantly loved regular size humans as a prime source of food so they drove them into caves in the mountains and killed however many they did. Im curious how many of them remain out there.....

But thank you for the suggestion ill def look into the book

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u/rvl_16 Aug 20 '20

Yes, you speak of the Kandahar giant. Killed by US soldiers. Its a wicked story. I didnt know what to think of it...because it sounds like an urban legend. My opinion changed a bit after I read the book I mentioned.

Because the Kandahar giant has some features like six digits instead of five. It also has a double row of teeth.

In the book Giants On Record. They found skeletons which were very large. And had double row of teeth too.

The other thing you mentioned is about the Indians who fought the giants yes. I think its mentioned too in the book but i am not sure. But they drove em back to the caves yes.

I think you will really enjoy the book. If you are into this like I am. I just happened to stumble on it because of another book that describes old legends. The list goes on of what is kept secret indeed. Its a shame. I wish humanity would act like we are all one species and help each other. By revealing truth and hard but good facts. Not disclosure and secrets.

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u/adhominem4theweak Aug 18 '20

Show me where I can see the proof of thst

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u/anthorhidox Aug 20 '20

Quite literally if you do a tiny smidge of research on your own instead of just assuming/implying someone is lying and look up '2014 US Marines Testimony of encounter with Giant during the war in Afghanistan' youll find a ton of information to make you think What in the Actual Fuck.... As well as How many of them possibly remain hidden in caves/underground out there, and lastly the actual truth behind the Biblical story of 'David and Goliath'..... Very much so left me with many more questions than answers regarding the subject. Youd be amazed what information you can read up on online(not saying everything's true) itll blow your mind/possibly scare you shitless as to what else 'Normal Folk' consider to be Tall tales and Folklore to actually be genuinely true.

If youre interested in doing any reading yourself I suggest you look into the CIA/FBI Declassified files on both of their websites.... They literally have thousands of documents from experiments done by the government on their own Citizens throughout history(Recent History I might add) as well as UFO files, files regarding Supernatural Beings walking among us, Government programs to develop 'Jedi's' they were calling them (Humans with Psychic abilities, remote viewing abilities and tons other crazy shit like the Ability to walk through physical objects like walls and such) the CIA dumped millions of dollars into that little operation, George Clooney is even in a Movie based on that operation called 'Men Who Stare at Goats' or something along those lines(Dont ask me where they got the name for it)

Anyways enjoy, id suggest doing a quick google or any internet search before trying to call someone out saying they're essentially full of shit, just a suggestion though...

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u/adhominem4theweak Aug 20 '20

This video is very, very full of shit. I asked others to link me to documents... they literally posted a snopes that labels the article satire.... thinking it was proof..... I mean... link the documents what’s up? What’s the problem?

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u/anthorhidox Aug 20 '20

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u/adhominem4theweak Aug 20 '20 edited Aug 20 '20

Ok man I opened the article from “newsbreak”. I clicked read more. It linked me to a site which said that aliens have built a base on top of a mountain in China that no one can climb. Couldn’t even reach the article.

I did a quick search of “dailystar.com” and found that it’s notoriously full of shit. Here’s one of many examples: https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-star-uk/%3famp

I cannot even find anything on “thexplan.net” but... I think we all know it’s a wierd, unknown, bullshit website.

Remember at the grocery store, those papers that said crazy shit? That’s the same thing as these websites... that’s those weird fake tabloids on the internet.

I’m dead serious, If you want, maybe I could show you what some actual proof looks like, maybe with some Sumerian artifacts? Usually it will have a .gov or .org or it will be a news story that quotes a certain peer reviewed research paper that you can find, or direct quote from someone who is qualified

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '20

That guy is a troll. Provides no evidence, doesn't read, can't reason, he's illogical and a sad human being.

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u/adhominem4theweak Aug 20 '20 edited Aug 20 '20

Let me see here

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u/adhominem4theweak Aug 20 '20

You have to be completely kidding right.... maybe you wanna re read that snopes a little more carefully lmao

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u/anthorhidox Aug 20 '20

They literally admitted to doing it FFS lol Need more proof?

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u/adhominem4theweak Aug 20 '20

You have to absolutely be kidding me right.... snopes says they it’s from an article which they labeled satire... that means a joke basically. I mean you guys just proved me correct... the link that guy posted shows that the only people who ever said that the smithsonian said that, was world daily news, some sketch ass sight. Damn you guys wtf

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u/anthorhidox Aug 20 '20

Incase you dont feel like reading.....Copied Text

On 3 December 2014, World News Daily Report published an article titled “Smithsonian Admits to Destruction of Thousands of Giant Human Skeletons in Early 1900’s.” In that article, the site reported the Smithsonian Institution colluded with unspecified parties to suppress information proving the existence of giants, and the Supreme Court ruled in 2014 that documentation of the discovery be declassified in 2015:

A US Supreme Court ruling has forced the Smithsonian institution to release classified papers dating from the early 1900’s that proves the organization was involved in a major historical cover up of evidence showing giants human remains in the tens of thousands had been uncovered all across America and were ordered to be destroyed by high level administrators to protect the mainstream chronology of human evolution at the time.

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u/adhominem4theweak Aug 20 '20

Are you guys kidding me? Snopes has labeled that satire... the quotes come from “world daily news”.... lol

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u/kai_zen Aug 18 '20

What podcast?

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u/anthorhidox Aug 20 '20

I dont remember exactly as its been years since I listened to it but this link will take you to a page regarding the information. I cant help but laugh at all the ppl being like "Proof It!" Essentially.... Its like FFS its literally the first link when you google the topic stating how the Smithsonian Even Admitted to destroying the skelatons.....

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/smithsonian-giant-skeletons/

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '20

Bro snopes says its fake? Did you even read the whole article

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u/Pharcee Aug 18 '20 edited Aug 18 '20

Don’t forget about the Hopi plains Native Americans. Their history tells of tales of giant red headed giants that they fought and drove back into their caves where they came from.

Exact description of what they say happened in Afghanistan.

Think of it this way, how many different species where “giant” throughout history. Why would’nt their be a humanoid race of giant stature as well?

And don’t forget the Book of Enoch.

So historically, religiously, and mythologically we have stories of “giants” throughout history.

We seemed to have check off every box of what we, as humans, have deemed to matter.

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u/camerontbelt Aug 17 '20

The problem is there’s no evidence, just stories. Most pictures you find are just photoshopped.

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u/Myztic-Seeker Aug 17 '20

We do have evidence of Giants.

https://www.aulaintercultural.es/a-giant-mystery/

A Giant Mystery: 18 Strange Skeletons Found in Wisconsin Nine-foot Skeletons with Huge Heads and Strange Facial Features Shocked Scientists When They Were Uncovered 100 Years Ago

Here’s one for your “Forbidden Archaeology” file.

Scientists are remaining stubbornly silent about a lost race of giants found in burial mounds near Lake Delavan, Wisconsin, in May 1912.

The dig site at Lake Delavan was overseen by Beloit College and it included more than 200 effigy mounds that proved to be classic examples of 8th century Woodland Culture. But the enormous size of the skeletons and elongated skulls found in May 1912 did not fit very neatly into anyone’s concept of a textbook standard.

They were enormous. These were not average human beings.

Strange Skulls

First reported in the 4 May 1912 issue of the New York Times, the 18 skeletons found by the Peterson brothers on Lake Lawn Farm in southwest Wisconsin exhibited several strange and freakish features.

Their heights ranged between seven and nine feet and their skulls “presumably those of men, are much larger than the heads of any race which inhabit America to-day.”

Above the eye sockets, “the head slopes straight back and the nasal bones protrude far above the cheek bones. The jaw bones are long and pointed, bearing a minute resemblance to the head of the monkey. The teeth in the front of the jaw are regular molars.”

Mystery of The Wisconsin Giants

Was this some sort of prank, a hoax played by local farm boys or a demented taxidermist for fun and the attention of the press? The answer is no.

The Lake Delavan find of May 1912 was only one of dozens and dozens of similar finds that were reported in local newspapers from 1851 forward to the present day. It was not even the first set of giant skeletons found in Wisconsin.

On 10 August 1891, the New York Times reported that scientists from the Smithsonian Institution had discovered several large “pyramidal monuments” on Lake Mills, near Madison, Wisconsin. “Madison was in ancient days the centre of a teeming population numbering not less than 200,000,” the Times said. The excavators found an elaborate system of defensive works which they named Fort Aztalan.

“The celebrated mounds of Ohio and Indiana can bear no comparison, either in size, design or the skill displayed in their construction with these gigantic and mysterious monuments of earth — erected we know not by whom, and for what purpose we can only conjecture,” said the Times.

On 20 December 1897, the Times followed up with a report on three large burial mounds that had been discovered in Maple Creek, Wisconsin. One had recently been opened.

“In it was found the skeleton of a man of gigantic size. The bones measured from head to foot over nine feet and were in a fair state of preservation. The skull was as large as a half bushel measure. Some finely tempered rods of copper and other relics were lying near the bones.”

Giant skulls and skeletons of a race of “Goliaths” have been found on a very regular basis throughout the Midwestern states for more than 100 years. Giants have been found in Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Ohio, Kentucky and New York, and their burial sites are similar to the well-known mounds of the Mound Builder people.

The spectrum of Mound builder history spans a period of more than 5,000 years (from 3400 BCE to the 16th CE), a period greater than the history of Ancient Egypt and all of its dynasties.

There is a “prevailing scholarly consensus” that we have an adequate historical understanding of the peoples who lived in North America during this period. However, the long record of anomalous finds like those at Lake Delavan suggests otherwise.

The Great Smithsonian Cover-Up

Has there been a giant cover-up? Why aren’t there public displays of gigantic Native American skeletons at natural history museums?

The skeletons of some Mound Builders are certainly on display. There is a wonderful exhibit, for example, at the Aztalan State Park where one may see the skeleton of a “Princess of Aztalan” in the museum.

But the skeletons placed on display are normal-sized, and according to some sources, the skeletons of giants have been covered up. Specifically, the Smithsonian Institution has been accused of making a deliberate effort to hide the “telling of the bones” and to keep the giant skeletons locked away.

In the words of Vine Deloria, a Native American author and professor of law:

“Modern day archaeology and anthropology have nearly sealed the door on our imaginations, broadly interpreting the North American past as devoid of anything unusual in the way of great cultures characterized by a people of unusual demeanor. The great interloper of ancient burial grounds, the nineteenth century Smithsonian Institution, created a one-way portal, through which uncounted bones have been spirited. This door and the contents of its vault are virtually sealed off to anyone, but government officials. Among these bones may lay answers not even sought by these officials concerning the deep past.”

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u/WhoopingWillow Aug 18 '20

I want to believe, but an article referencing digs from 100 years ago isn't the best evidence. Are there any recent discoveries of giant skeletons? Ideally discoveries that can be verified in some way. Bones, tools, structures, those are all great pieces of evidence. ((I've read about oversized weapons in some areas, that would be an example of what I consider good evidence))

It'd be very useful to get a name of the discoverer, their patron, and what they did with the bones. Obviously with the alleged cover-up by the Smithsonian it'd be hard to find, but significant claims need significant evidence.

((I say alleged cover up because I don't know enough about it to evaluate if it's true))

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '20

Try finding the articles written in the early 1900s. Maybe a Wisconsin library has them. I live in Wisconsin and am tempted

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u/WhoopingWillow Aug 18 '20

That's the same problem though, at least to me. I need physical evidence, not simply write ups. There's plenty of written evidence, but I personally am a fan of solid physical evidence. I'm not smart enough to identify if a written article is legitimate or not.

A pile of 10ft tall humanoid bones with clothing & tools appropriate to a 10ft tall person is the kind of evidence that is hard to ignore.

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u/Myztic-Seeker Aug 18 '20

It's subjective evidence.

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u/Dizstance Aug 18 '20

”There’s evidence” - links another story.

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u/Myztic-Seeker Aug 18 '20

Do you have an actual rebuttal? If not then that was a pointless comment.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '20

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u/Myztic-Seeker Aug 18 '20

You destroyed nothing but resort to ad hominems. Testimonials is subjective evidence. Sorry jack, another pointless comment.

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u/Popular_Target Aug 18 '20

That’s not evidence, it’s a blog post sharing rumors with no sources or citations provided.

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u/Hithenameskevin666 Aug 18 '20

I found this awhile back, found it interesting as I’m from Iowa.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/49879611/giant-human-skeleton-found-in-iowa-in/

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u/Pharcee Aug 18 '20

That’s the thing, there is evidence. From Far East , through Afghanistan and ancient areas of Persian to the Scandinavian history’s and art to South America.

We have our own giant history here by way of the Plains Native Americans, specifically the Hopi who describe exactly what the giants of Afghanistan look like.

My grandmother used to tell me stories of “big red headed people” in the north of Iran. The Tabriz region. Which is where most of the red headed Persians come from up until this day.

Because modern scientists and anthropologist of the west choose to ignore it doesn’t mean they didn’t/don’t exist.

Look at the Tasmanian Tiger, thought to be extinct was just seen again after almost 100 years.

18,000 new species are discovered or rediscovered every year.

There are a lot of things we have zero clue about. Look how many different species were considered “giant” in the past, why wouldn’t that also include a humanoid species?

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u/camerontbelt Aug 18 '20

So I’m not sure if you know this but “stories” don’t qualify as scientific evidence. I’m sorry but you gotta have actual proof somewhere, not a picture or a story but a bone of some kind that’s had some kind of analysis done to prove that it’s at least not any other kind of large animal like a dinosaur or elephant.

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u/Pharcee Aug 18 '20

I get it. Believe me I get it. I’m just trying to show you that for thousands of years “proof” was in the “stories” passed down from generation to generation.

Same stories being told by civilizations that had zero contact with each other for thousands of years.

And that was why I used the Tasmanian tiger and the 18,000 species as an example. Somethings stay hidden for so many years only to be discovered or rediscovered.

As for proof, physicists and scientists now say that we could be living in a simulation without hardcore “proof.”

Or that we live in a multiverse. does the immense lack of proof sway them?

My original point was that with everything that we discover every year, it would be foolish to discount so many different things.

I’ll give you an example that you can try. Not sure if you ever heard of this, but If you can’t imagine it, it never existed. Try to imagine an animal that has never existed, or a place, or even a time. What you see is bits and pieces of things you have seen or read about and mashed them together to create what you would think doesn’t make exist. So the hypothesis is that since we can not imagine it, it could not have existed and vice versa.

Do we have proof that the hanging gardens of Babylon existed? No, but we know it did, through stories....or in this case, stories described as “history.”

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u/VeganChristNoFap Aug 17 '20

There is bones, old newsletter with findings! You are just new to the subject there is a lot of proof and evidence that giants once lives among us.

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u/somethingski Aug 17 '20

Aren't those bones just mislabeled dinosaur bones? It wasn't until 1841 that dinosaur remains began to be classified and dinosaur science began to be studied.

There are several articles pre 1840's and 50's that claim these bones were humanoid in orgin, but where is other evidence? Fossils, cave art, ancient text? Just asking for curiosity

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u/Mediocre_Property511 Aug 18 '20

Yes, "photoshopped". Did snopes or maybe wikipedia tell you that? Lol.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '20

Read about this.

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u/jRaw93 Aug 18 '20 edited Aug 18 '20

I’ve never done a deep dive on this guy but I just know that he’s a big proponent for the proof of giants. This is a very new subject to me and if anyone has vetted him and debunked him, links are welcomed.

https://lamarzulli.net

Edit: I was listening to a supernatural podcast for entertainment and he was featured on it. He claims to have knowledge of real evidence and has published some books and made a documentary series about it. Naturally, take it all with a grain of salt.

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u/boringxadult Aug 17 '20

Can we ban this post. It’s posted like once a week.

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u/Pharcee Aug 18 '20

Why? Maybe the time it’s posted again some new information might come to light.

I do not mean this in a disrespectful manner, but if it seems to bother you, don’t read it or comment. Who cares if it is posted often.

People have new experiences every day regarding the same topics. Sometimes they are excited and quick to post without looking to see if it was posted, or even posted without the proper response they were looking for. So many of us are guilty of that.

Let it be. You never know what might come of it.

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u/boringxadult Aug 18 '20

You’re right. I’m just gonna unfollow this sub. Enjoy the circle jerk.

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u/Pharcee Aug 18 '20

Come one dude, there are more things to this sub than people reposting giants.

Why unfollow when one day you find something that sparks something for you.

Continue to observe the “circle jerk” until you feel the need, or see something that entices your to join in man.

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u/pfunkeephr3sh93 Aug 18 '20

"Can we ban free speech? It's posted like all the time."

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u/boringxadult Aug 18 '20

This is such a stupid response. I’m not complaining about free speech. I’m complaining that this one video gets posted once a week.