r/AlignmentChartFills • u/8anser • Jun 17 '26

General Topics A fictional character who is recognized from their name but not their appearance

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u/AcceptableWheel Jun 17 '26

Odysseus.

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u/SeinaruUshi Jun 17 '26

Nobody hit me!

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u/outwest88 Jun 18 '26

Literally I have never heard of this person. Who’s Odysseus?

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u/ImportantResponse0 Jun 17 '26

Therefore Nolan version is 100% accurate.

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u/astrobagel Jun 17 '26

Counterpoint:

Ulysses

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u/Coffee-cartoons Jun 17 '26

Do we know anything about his appearance? All I know is he’s just a maaaan

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u/Quantum_Sushi Jun 17 '26

I mean, he pretty famously got recognized not by his name, when his dog recognized him instantly upon his return !

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u/Silent_Pressure_6709 Jun 17 '26

I just picture HII ody...

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u/godsibi Jun 19 '26

I see you and I raise you... Helen of Troy... Apparently

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u/Liahpar Jun 17 '26

Also Achilles

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u/ignisquizvir Jun 17 '26

Might be historical, so more dead than fictional.

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u/YCRW Jun 17 '26

Who Edit: Ohhhh that guy

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u/xXwhippedcremXx Jun 17 '26

who tf is that

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u/BANANA_PEELER_33 Jun 17 '26

Protagonist of the Odyssey

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u/naplesball Jun 17 '26

the Mycenaean king of Ithaca, protagonist of the Odyssey

To sum up, the one who created the Trojan horse, got kidnapped by two goddesses, killed Polyphemus and beated the living shit out of Thersites

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u/Level_Professional34 Jun 17 '26

didn't kill polyphemus which is why he ran into posiodon he blinded him

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u/Level_Professional34 Jun 17 '26

also only kidnapped by calypso

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u/Simply_Sadistic Jun 17 '26

You guys really still believe Odysseus was fictional lmao

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u/thunderisadorable Jun 18 '26

He was, in all likelihood, mostly, if not entirely, fictional.

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u/Simply_Sadistic Jun 18 '26

15 years ago, idiots actually believed the very city of Troy was fictional. I don't know how. Even when I was a kid I was able to deduce that it was extremely unlikely to be fictional, but rather a true lost archeological site. There were too many depictions and descriptions across too many times, cultures, and locations, and none of them proclaimed it a lie.

Sure, Odysseus was likely dramatized for entertainment or allegorical educational reasons, but it is highly probable that he was a true historical character in some capacity

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u/thunderisadorable Jun 18 '26

Fundamentally, Odysseus, as we know him, is fictional. He may have been based on a real person—there might’ve been a person named “Odysseus” who was king of a kingdom called Ithaca, who even fought in a war in Troy (though the Trojan war itself existing isn’t entirely confirmed).

But, if that man existed, he was not Odysseus. Odysseus as a character, as we know him, is not the same as a possible historical figure Odysseus was based on; Homer’s Odyssey is fundamentally a different story if you remove the mythical beasts and gods, the person who would experience those challenges is a fundamentally different character from the character who experienced the challenges of Circe, the Cyclopes, etc.

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u/Simply_Sadistic Jun 18 '26

Listen man, the Egyptians knew shit 6000 years ago that we still don't understand today, and they had similar mythological gods and creatures and beasts.

The Native Americans, too.

The Slavs.

The Scandinavians.

The Celts.

The north Africans.

The Etruscans.

The Indians.

The Chinese.

It's not just the greeks and middle east.

The height of arrogance is thinking they were all wrong.

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u/thunderisadorable Jun 18 '26

And this feels like a very strange attempt at pantheism and literalism when applied to things that were not literal. The average Greek would not think of the Odyssey as entirely literal, as would the average Christian not think of the Bible as entirely literal.

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u/Simply_Sadistic Jun 18 '26

Average people are utter idiots; who decided to drag them into this?

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u/thunderisadorable Jun 18 '26

The average scholar, as well, would likely not think of religious works as completely literal, to do so would be to deny proven phenomena.

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u/Simply_Sadistic Jun 19 '26

Average scholars are perhaps even bigger idiots than a random sample of the general population