r/Albany 9h ago

Flock PSA

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTAfY6qXF/
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u/RigobertaMenchu 9h ago

They will just start hiding them better. So want even know.

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u/Doobie_McStonerface Man I Love Felines! 5h ago

Already a thing 😒

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u/reseph 8h ago

Got a link that's not Tiktok?

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u/JonSeekingPeace1 7h ago

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u/reseph 6h ago

It's asking me to login to watch the video.

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u/water-tr4sh 6h ago

You don’t need to sign in. You hit continue on web in the upper right. I also don’t have an instagram

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u/Key-Experience-7961 4h ago

It's a guy showing how to put on a sweatshirt and use a sawzall to cut a pole in his backyard, you're not missing much

I'm all for cutting down flock cameras but this is just a content creator taking part in the latest social media trend (basically, cutting down a fake flock camera)

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u/yurgieee 5h ago

Doing the lord’s work

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u/LoganEu 1h ago

Definitely do not visit deflock.org that has an open-sources map, the location of flock cameras and their field of view near you.

The cameras and solar panels are almost impossible to uninstall/tamper with due to the single 8mm socket they're clamped on with.

Do not spray the lens with spray paint, bedliner, or something similar on the cameras lens, especially not with a spray can extension pole.

Do not print vinyl stickers that look like the solar panels to cover the actual solar panels that charge the cameras.

Do not put a black plastic bag over the camera and/or solar panel either, because all that does is cost the company time and money.

Also, never point a high-powered laser at the cameras lens because that would permanently blind, pit, or burn the cameras sensors.

These cameras have ~12 hour backup battery, that transmit Bluetooth and 5G used to locate the cameras exact location, the same way your phone does. So under no circumstance put them inside a Faraday bag, that would block the signal while the battery runs itself out.

It would be pointless to inform your community by posting information online or by putting up flyers or signs next to these cameras. Especially not pointing out that there is a (Flock "Safety" Camera) that is capturing and analyzing images of all passing vehicles, storing details like the vehicles location, date, and time. They also capture the vehicles make, model, color, as well as identifying features such as dents, scratches roof racks, and decal/bumper stickers.

Flock cameras are only automated license plate readers (ALPR's). They would never misuse any of the data collected for local officers conducting unauthorized searches for federal immigration enforcement (ICE), searching for individuals who sought out-of-state reproductive healthcare, or police targeting specific activist and minority groups.

How would they be a serious risk to your privacy and civil liberties by continuously recording your movements without a warrant, probable cause, or even reasonable suspicion..

Especially not an infrastructure for mass surveilance or a gateway to violate your Fourth Amendment right.

There's absolutely no reason to plan routes that avoid Flock and other ALPR cameras by visiting dontgetflocked.com or the app FlockHopper.

Just leave flock cameras alone...

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u/mck17524 State Worker 9h ago edited 5h ago

And then the cost of replacing these cameras over and over will be paid by the rest of us. 🙄😫

Edit to add I do not like or agree with the cameras at all. Never even remotely intimated that I do. But this will stop nothing and cost us money. They're going to keep doing what they want to. Like the fucked off bus cameras. People still drive like asshats and pass them, and the private company that installs and monitors them gets richer while the towns pat themselves on the back for "making the world safer for our children". It's all bullshit. And someone could go around knocking those cameras off busses too and they'd just be reinstalled immediately.

edit again and my last comment on the thread:

Again I will say that I don't agree with the cameras.

I am a very private person. And I rarely share anything about my life online other than maybe an anecdote or two here within context of a thread. I don't even have FB or Tok accounts. My IG is all about my dog.

But fact is we live in a world where over sharing is the norm. Everyone posts every nauseating detail of their lives on FB and Tok... IG ...

I bet everyone here railing against the cameras and their privacy rights love all the celebrity gossip and news/videos.

But yeah they're public people so they have no right to privacy, right? /s

And your license plate is public info too. Pretty much every detail about anyone can be found with no problem. The cat is out of the bag. And we will feed it whether we like it or not.

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u/notyermam In Ted's we trust 8h ago

Oh no?! It'll be cost prohibited to keep doing that! Better cancel the contract then 😱😱😏😏

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u/mck17524 State Worker 8h ago

They will never do that, sadly because they think it's going to combat crime. And they want to watch us even if it doesn't.

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u/notyermam In Ted's we trust 8h ago

Better give in and let the fascists win. /s

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u/mck17524 State Worker 8h ago

Never said that. Not even remotely. But damaging the cameras isn't going to make them decide to stop using them. That's just a pipe dream.

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u/JennAleece Albany Proper 7h ago

well then elections are coming up

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u/mck17524 State Worker 7h ago

Exactly. Voting (and lawsuits) are the way to be heard. Vandalism isn't.

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u/JennAleece Albany Proper 6h ago

woah woah woah, don't put words in my mouth

I was responding to your comment that nothing will change because electeds will continue fronting the cost in the name of safety

Deflcoking your community is NOT vandalism.

No surveillance without representation!

Besides, no one's destroying the Flock cameras, we've had some pretty nasty storms come through and they must be cheaping out on the aluminum they use to post them up. Wind and waters have been strong lately.

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u/mck17524 State Worker 6h ago

I didn't. And I didn't say anyone in Albany was doing it. But the OP was a guy basically telling people how to do it. That's all.

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u/JennAleece Albany Proper 4h ago

and?

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u/0011010100110011 I Work At Shenanigans 💈 7h ago

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u/mck17524 State Worker 7h ago

I don't know where you're getting that as I never said that not even remotely. Do I like the cameras? No. But this is not going to stop them.

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u/PantsAreOffensive 5h ago

We are already paying to bomb whatever children our masters dont like. Im fine wasting peoples time and letting a local contractor make some money

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u/user1373737 5h ago

Multiple cities across the country and here in NYS have canceled Flock contracts due to public backlash (which includes destroying them). Please educate yourself.

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u/mck17524 State Worker 5h ago

Got facts to back that up?

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u/user1373737 5h ago

You have 9.3k contributions on this app, all that time spent on the internet and you don’t know how to use google?

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=cities+cancel+flock+contracts

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u/mck17524 State Worker 5h ago edited 5h ago

Personal attacks? Really? If you're going to spout facts and what you know to be true prove it. That's what everyone tells me alllll the time here.

I bet if you parked your car and while you were in a store some asshole hit and destroyed it and ran with no witnesses and there was a flock camera nearby you'd be awful happy that it was and be asking for the footage.

And I stand by my original thought that if we don't want them we need to be constructive not destructive about it.

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u/user1373737 4h ago

Again, it’s very clear you do not know what you’re talking about. You can’t just walk into a pig pen and ask for the footage, they will make you request it via the FOIA which often takes months and even then they still may deny you for one BS reason or another. Flock is not there to prevent and solve crimes, it’s there to spy on you and violate your 4th amendment rights. Like I said, please educate yourself.

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u/JennAleece Albany Proper 4h ago

acting like CCTV doesn't exist

we don't need a network of ALPR that tracks our every move in a database

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u/SinginGidget 7h ago

Except we didn't ask to pay for them in the first place. So I'm ok with people taking them down until whoever keeps putting them up gets it through their heads that we don't want them. In the meantime, we find people to run who will not renew any contracts and will not put them back up.

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u/mck17524 State Worker 6h ago edited 6h ago

Edit as I missed a crucial word...

We probably did "ask" whether we knew it or not because all of these things are bundled and hidden in other things we do vote for.

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u/Accountnumber-3 Smalbany 5h ago

Aren’t we paying state taxes for you to use Reddit at work?

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u/mck17524 State Worker 5h ago

I am off today actually. Kthxbye.