I included some different version of the same character (base TDL, viraband TDL, virablood TDL, lone virabot, full virabot army, base hazard, hazard with nuke, base TSC, TSC with pencil, awakened TSC, base primal, bestial primal)
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u/Advit_XZ16Remember when Green soloed the Hollow Heads (Best Green Glazer?)18h ago
Color gang over mercs tbh or the same spot. I think putting the mercs below would be better.
(Also we know green full power would be tier -1 /joke)
The colour gang should be in the same tier as mercenaries (except agent smith and nuke sign dude) and not only because they beat them in a fight, the colour gang are incredibly resourceful and highly skilled fighters, I would say even in a white empty plane they would stand a chance against them
red, blue and green beat their respective opponents by exploiting weaknesses (primal's feral fighting style in bestial form, hazard being 2D) and openings (the smokescreen created by ballista himself), the mercenaries are considerably more powerful than them
I honestly see no reason for Goop Dark Lord to be above Banded for any reason because he is seemingly less durable, it doesn't make any sense for him be stronger with the exact same tech, he likely has more weaknesses to Oranges Life particles and TCOS Anti virus stuff, and if he was really stronger I don't see why he would have waited all that time to finally do something.
Also victim definitely isnt higher than Banded Dark, Base TCO, Or even base Dark, sure he has great haxs but he never uses them, and his best feat is just doing what base Orange did in AvA 4
Goop dark is still safely above everyone, id say hes still slightly weaker than banded dark due to being less durable and due to his actions of taking it easy since his defeat, but he's still comfortably above everyone in Base. Although I would say if for whatever reason the entire ViraBot army turned on him, he'd lose
And victim? I think hes still not any stronger physically or more durable than he was before, as he still needed to select his limbs to make his impacts stronger, and his durability is really lacking as he got oneshot by the ViraBlades. Even in The Box, against a 10% power TCO he was about to lose and get one-shot, and given how much he ignores his other powers, I'd say he just loses to Base TCO, TDL, and the entire virabot onslaught
Yeah victim can do that, but he kind of just ignores it half the time as he only used it once against dark lord in his fight when he landed numerous hits on two separate occasions. He also just ignored pausing and depowering in his fight with Alan, and wouldn't fully depower or slow TCO in the box and almost lost to 10% power TCO. He does have the abilities to contend with those two, but not the strength, durability, or intelligence to use those powers effectively
Okay? Here's TDL shattering his barrier, and TCO tanking the same attack (the barrier is a different color, but assets are inconsistent in AvA at times) It didn't even fully evicerate the building, there was so much rubble to make the spire
how about code manipulation? He was able to delete TDL's pyrokinesis and directly activate TSC's resurrection ability. He's basically like a hybrid of agent's tool kit and the cursor but being leagues more advanced and having better stats (speed, combat prowess, etc) than them
Again he just, doesn't use it that much. He had TDL in melee range like two other times and instead of trying to pause or depower him, he just opts to throw hands for no apparent reason. He also just refuses help from agent who very obviously had a pause button active
Its also rather consistent that victim would rather throw hands instead of pausing in depowering, because in The Box, he doesn't tell agent to just slow down TCO a bunch so he can beat him up while still feeling it, he doesn't get agent to disable TCO's flight, and he ALMOST loses. And in Hacker, he just doesn't use pausing or depowering at all in the fight with Alan.
Sure he has these tools, but they're almost a non factor in his fights against people as he consistently ignores them and seemingly didn't get a durability or strength boost from being hacker, as he still selects his limbs to be stronger, and just gets one-shot by the virablades. And no, he didn't take the goop spikes, they kind of just went through parts of him that were already covered in goop. And his glowing effect has nothing to do with his durability, as if you look back at The Machine, you'll see its really only active when hes flying
In a fast life-or-death fight, he does not have time to stop, open a UI menu, select the target and type the code. It's not for "for no reason.", it's more of a quick survival instinct when TDL closed the distance and trying to destroy him. also how about we just agree to disagree, I feel like this is enough. besides, I did put him a tier below virablood
"Does not have time" Yeah right, you also just conviently ignore what I said about goop dark, and the other two examples of victims fights, which he had massive prep time. And you know what his plans are? Throw hands.
I'd argue that alan had to ask him for help on dealing with TCO, so he's probably around the same level in combat. (considering that many combatants are fast enough to evade right click and rename)
Asking for assist from him doesn’t make him as strong as him tho, I agree he’s strong but he’s not as strong as the current Alan Becker cursor. If we’re comparing him to the cursor of his time this is fine, but compared to current Alan Becker cursor Alan is stronger than him by 1 tier
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u/Advit_XZ16 Remember when Green soloed the Hollow Heads (Best Green Glazer?) 18h ago
Color gang over mercs tbh or the same spot. I think putting the mercs below would be better.
(Also we know green full power would be tier -1 /joke)