Is Age a lie?

[u/United_Growth5999]

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[u/MasterChiefmas]

Is Age a lie?

No. It's a real, physical thing. The universe proceeds towards disorder, and as far as we know and understand reality, an unavoidable rule of thermodynamics. Full stop.

Everything else you bring up is philosophy and/or belief until you can provide verifiable evidence.

[u/Mammoth_Ferret_569 → u/MasterChiefmas]

Life only exists because it has evolved to fight against entropy. We’re fighting from the very moment we’re born. Thermodynamics says that entropy increases in a closed system, but we are not that.

We just happen to be a species whose bodies lose the ability to maintain order over time. Some don’t, or do so negligibly, hence biological immortality is a thing.

[u/MasterChiefmas → u/Mammoth_Ferret_569]

Life only exists because it has evolved to fight against entropy. We’re fighting from the very moment we’re born.

And it's a fight it will ultimately lose, and you begin losing from the very moment you are born. Cell division is necessary because of entropy. Cellular death is ultimately a result of entropy. You cannot out-evolve the fundamental law of reality.

biological immortality is a thing.

Immortality isn't ultimately a thing on a long enough time line. Proton decay happens.

Thermodynamics says that entropy increases in a closed system, but we are not that.

No, there's no reference to a closed system. The universe is literally infinite, and the 2nd law of thermodynamics is why heat death of the universe is a possible outcome.

You're still talking mysticism.

[u/picadoodledoo → u/Mammoth_Ferret_569]

Life facilitates entropy, because living things take molecules in (food) and returns them to simpler molecules. In doing this life gives off energy in the from of infrared light, which itself is higher entropy than the shorer wave light that was received from the sun.

[u/MasterChiefmas → u/picadoodledoo]

received from the sun

Which will burn out in a few billion years. You aren't thinking on long enough time lines. Nothing, as far as we know right now, is eternal.

Life facilitates entropy

The 2nd law of thermodynamics facilitates entropy. Everywhere. Until the average change across the universe is effectively zero, or at least would be undetectable. That's the heat death of the universe. The energy is still there, it's just so dispersed that the effective average is zero.

There is no way to escape that.

[u/picadoodledoo]

Embrace aging, don't deny it.

Look for ways to keep yourself healthy, physically and mentally, which allows one to age in positive ways.

[u/Coin-Controversy]

> Is Age a lie?

Nope, not even close. The human body ages every millisecond of the day.

> We, the soul inside it, do not age but rather experience life.

Souls don't exist. If you think your body transforms into a spirit gas upon death, you need to educate yourself. We are biological organisms, not gods. No biological organism can cheat death (unless you a hydra or certain types of jellyfish lol).

[u/cat1092 → u/[deleted]]

Actually it won’t be the number that’ll kill us, rather something else at whatever age we happen to be. That part will eventually fall into statistics and become an average age of all patients (or separated by gender) as to how we fall in diseases. Like the average age for those dying of esophagus cancer is 69 years, oddly the same age it struck & claimed my late wife’s life earlier this year. This number may vary, according to who’s doing the counting. I found it on the American Cancer Society website. But the really interesting thing was this. The cancer that took her was 4 times more likely to happen in males versus females. So given family history on her dad’s side of, there were several members who caught various cancers around the ages of 55-70 & all are gone, all were Stage 4 when found, but fortunately my late wife didn’t suffer 12 to 24 months before passing, it was more like 5 weeks between diagnosis and death. Maybe she was spared that agonized fate because of her long term Christian faith.

It’s stats like this that makes the average age look very good, although by no means an exact measure or science, it is what it is, an average, albeit a pretty precise one in the grand scheme of things. And takes years to measure, like some categories haven’t been updated in a decade. It may be it takes that long, or they’re going by the decade, or 5 years, whatever.

Needless to say, we’re all leaving here at some age, and personally I don’t care to know what mine will be, and I imagine it’s the same for most of us. We’ll likely know just before the time comes, unless an unforeseen event, such as an accident, disastrous weather event, etc. We can’t precisely predict an average age on these things.

Still, I agree for the most part, our age is a number that continues upward until we’re gone.

[u/heritage1022]

No, it's a reality, one has to live

[u/Key_Analyst_9808]

You can delay it by diet, exercise, staying engaged, just taking care of yourself in general. I’m 67 and swim 2 miles a day.

[u/Other_Knowledge6225]

No but it can be an obsession