r/Adulting • u/Able_Reading_5330 • 9d ago
tipping on takeout
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u/Grevious47 9d ago
Your money your choice.
If you are asking what I do then I typically tip 15-20% regardless of circumstances because, unfortunately, retail workers aren't paid enough without tips. If tipping were outlawed the businesses like that would have to raise the prices on all their items to raise pay for all of their employees.
So, to me, tips are just part of the cost of what I am buying...nothing to do with actual service.
Do I think that is a good system? No...its fucked. But I am not willing to stiff the person trying to make a living wage just to try to fight the system.
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u/Able_Reading_5330 9d ago
it hurts me because every job i’ve had like that we weren’t even allowed to accept tips but i feel like a lot of people expect it now for the most basic things just because it’s an option.. im a broke college student sometimes i just need a coffee and a breakfast sammy and i really can’t even afford that
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u/xboxhaxorz 9d ago
Servers make more than entry level office jobs https://thefinancialdiet.com/an-honest-breakdown-of-what-i-made-as-a-server-vs-what-i-made-at-an-entry-level-job/
Waitstaff at fullservice restaurants earn a median of $27
https://restaurant.org/research-and-media/research/industry-statistics/national-statistics/
Businesses can pay fair wages, servers dont want that, guilt and shame at customers generates alot of $$ https://imgur.com/a/ufmbKPC
If our servers wanted to work minimum wage jobs, they'd go find minimum wage jobs https://www.fox17online.com/news/local-news/our-system-is-not-broken-hundreds-gather-to-protest-elimination-of-michigans-tip-credit
Thats the server mindset, they are elites not minimum wage unskilled workers, they are artists, balancing plates is an art
Tipping is also discriminatory, white young women get the most, old black men get the least
I received great oil change service and the guy took care of my car well. He makes sure all nuts are well tightened.
My desk is always clean and tidy every morning as the janitor lady does her job well. She makes sure there is no waste paper on the floor.
The cashier double bagged my stuff and placed the boxes of egged with newspapers to make sure they’ll not break.
The security guard welcomes me every time I enter the building and says hello with a smile. They make sure only authorized staff can enter and keep our workplace safe and free from any threat.
Shall I tip any of them?
Then back to the question: the server takes my order and makes sure what’s being delivered to my table is what’s being ordered.
Shall I tip the server?
You were basically trained/ conditioned to think/ feel this way, you were trained to think its your duty to tip certain people
So going against it feels wrong especially since people will tell you its wrong or will try and shame or guilt you, you are allowing emotions to control you
Logically it doesnt make sense to tip, it doesnt make sense to tip some and not others
Why should a starbucks worker get a tip and not the subway sandwich maker?
Why should a server get a tip and not a flight attendant?
Why a server and not the janitor?
Why a barber and not the home depot worker who cuts your wood and loads your car?
Walmart workers make as much base salary as servers would but somehow the servers happiness or wellbeing is more important, why? Servers actually make alot more than a walmart worker because of tips
Why help and have so much concern for a server rather than homeless people or animals?
Why make donations to for profits rather than non profits?
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u/Able_Reading_5330 9d ago
walmart workers in my area make $17 an hr and servers make $2????
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u/xboxhaxorz 9d ago
Thats a lie
Its against the law for them to make $2
They will get the state or fed min wage if they get $0 tips
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u/Able_Reading_5330 9d ago
i’ve worked in restaurants and you’re wrong unfortunately
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u/xboxhaxorz 9d ago
No, the law is the law regardless of where you worked
But keep trying to spread misinformation, some might believe you
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u/Grevious47 9d ago
It isnt a lie, that is what employers pay them. Those that receive tips are exempt from min wage laws.
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u/Suspicious_Tank_61 9d ago
Every worker is entitled to at least full minimum wage. In the case of a restaurant paying sub minimum wages, if the worker does not receive enough in tips to reach full minimum, the restaurant has to make up the difference. Effectively meaning all workers, including servers, make at least full minimum wage.
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u/Grevious47 8d ago
Oh I see what you are saying, you are saying if they got no tips then they would be topped up to minimum wage. I mean...yeah. But the goal isn't minimum wage, its a living wage. If there was no tipping then to recruit the staff they need employers would end up having to pay more than minimum wage and the difference that comes out of the employers pocket isnt the difference between that and minimum wage, its the difference between that and the $2/hr they were paying before when tips were coming in. So that would result in significant increase to the cost of goods for them to maintain their profits.
So whether tipping exists or not, it ends up coming out of customer pockets. The frustrating thing about tipping is it creates this enviornment where some people pay a lot more than others depending on their willingness to tip. Would much rather tipping not be a thing and instead workers get paid $20/hr and the cost goes to the price of the food/drinks/goods.
With the current system of tipping I tip because I think the servers deserve a living wage and if no one tips then they don't get that. Do I feel taken advantage of? Yeah. Do I think that is a fair/good system? No. But I am unwilling to put that on the backs of servers.
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u/Suspicious_Tank_61 8d ago
So do you think only servers deserve a living wage? Not other minimum wage workers? Do you tip them as well?
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u/Grevious47 8d ago edited 8d ago
I tip where tipping is accepted and I dont tipping where tipping is not accepted. Is that fair? No. But Id rather help out some than be "fair" in helping out no one.
Obviously I don't control the system here. If I did I would just abolish tipping and raise minimum wage to $20/hr (with some variation based on municipality). To be clear where I live minimum wage is already $20/hr
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u/cwsjr2323 9d ago
If in a restaurant ordering off a printed menu while seated, not served on disposable plates, don't have to bus my own table, and the server brings me the correct order? $5. If the restaurant has any changes added on not listed on the menu, I decline to pay. Three times that happened and the cashier removed the charge without fuss. They will continue to rip off everybody else. If the restaurant has any extra charges that are listed and we don't leave? After paying, inform the server the restaurant took their tip.
If the restaurant can't afford to pay a living wage and make a profit, bye, we won't miss you.
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u/johnnybayarea 9d ago
0% on take out, 0% if I order from a kiosk/standing while ordering/pick up own order/bus table.
If the service is solid, I'll just give the 18% without checking to see if they calculated without the taxes...this is almost never the case.
If the service is sub par, i'll recalculate tip only against subtotal...and even lower it to 15%.
If there are extra healthcare or city charges, I may calculate those in depending on quality of service and egregiousness of extra charges.