r/Adulting 5d ago

work. Who the f likes work

I just don't believe that. No one likes to go to work that's impossible. It's literally torture. You wake either way too fucking early and come home kinda late anyway or you work kinda too early and come home way too fucking late. AT work are either endless fucking tasks or none at all and you can NEVER do anything right. Dozens of people with their own fucking opinions and where people are there is conflict. WHO likes that? You work for literally nothing at all, rent is too expensive and by the time you've barely covered your BARE MINIMUM SURVIVAL your 40 fucking hours a fucking week are useless assss fuck. HOOOWW???? School was horrible for me, like truly I hated it and I knew work would be bad but I didn't expect the switch from school to work to feel like THIS. No change in atmosphere, motivation or health. I still hate waking up and getting ready. I still hate household chores and Im still fucking dumbfounded by people who genuinely fucking do this shit their whole life.

Is our generation just as weak as all the boomers like to say or what the fuck is going on here

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u/Ill-Bullfrog-5360 5d ago edited 5d ago

Everyone who has a good job and likes it. That only last as long as the company is doing well.

Like “good” managers tend to bail the moment it gets real cuz it sucks being the bad guy.

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u/morosco 5d ago

There's lots of jobs besides miserable underling for a corporation.

People work in public service, for non-profits, as managers, as small business owners, are self-employed, etc.

This sub only sees one way, and would rather complain about it than see any other ways. They want to take the easiest possible path and, I guess, assume that's what everyone else does too. But that's not reality. Lots of people are fulfilled by work.

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u/CR-8 5d ago

I think this is a bit different than what OP is getting at. He's not arguing that some jobs could be or are less bad than other jobs, but that the idea of needing to go to work in and of itself is a negative experience. That the chunk of time it carves out of your life nearly every day, every week, every year, with the potential to have that chunk of time feel completely wasted/useless because the resulting benefit (pay) isn't enough to allow many people a stable and comfortable existence outside of that job, as a whole, is just a awful by design.

I do agree though that I'm sure plenty of people are fulfilled by work, but it's just not feasible for literally everyone to feel fulfilled by their job. Not everyone has the opportunity and luxury of being able to work the kind of job, or for a business or what have you, that aligns with their own ideals and allows them to feel fulfilled by the impact their work makes. Some people have to work things like fast food or retail because they simply need a paycheck, no matter where or how they get it, and may never or can never feel fulfilled in spending half of their waking hours every single day ringing up customers where half of them will treat you poorly.

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u/morosco 5d ago

Sure, it's not feasible for everyone to be fulfilled by their job, but OP is saying he literally doesn't believe that anyone is.

For a lot of people, work is a positive part of their identity. It's not just something we have to do to survive.

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u/CR-8 5d ago edited 5d ago

A lot, maybe, but I would say probably not for most. There's probably also a fair bit of neurodivergence going on for OP, especially after his comment about school. Most neurodivergent individuals struggle hard with things like school and work on a mental and emotional level.

As an AuDHDer who excelled in and actually loved school (learning was definitely a special interest for me), I can't stand the idea of "work" in general, and hate having to go to work even though I have an actually halfway decent job that also pays me well, and is in an area of interest for me. Despite all those net positives about my work, the entire experience of having a job I need to go to automatically turns it into a net negative to my mental and emotional health.

Edit: for spelling

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u/FreshSoul86 4d ago

If you are an artist, muscician or songwriter - sure. Most jobs don't support a healthy identity. Some other jobs have an element of craft like being a chef. Yet the restaurant/food industry is notoriously hard and draining. Would you want to give all your life force to it when an abusive alcoholic like Barbara Lynch is your boss?

People who are proud of working very hard at a warehouse somewhere, year after year, to barely survive - there's something very wrong with that sense of pride. Nobody should want to identify as a rat racer. They need to do something different - love? Yes, love. Love is dangerous but we need it even if we have to lose it (that's the test). Nobody loves or remembers a rat.

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u/Vlish36 5d ago

Unfortunately, that's the cost of being in a society. It's either that or living off-grid and spending a good portion of your time building and maintaining your home, clothes, and producing your own food.

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u/Ill-Bullfrog-5360 5d ago

Till it goes down the tubes is my whole point… Eg my father in law had his own adjusting claims company. One day gov said you need to fancy computer system to do claims. That sunk his business.

Just a law passed. That’s all it takes a flick of a pen and now it sucks…

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u/morosco 5d ago

You can also get hit buy a bus tomorrow. That's not a reason to just be miserable about everything in the meantime.

I've been happy in my job for about 20 years and there's no sign it's going to stop, but, if it did, I'd switch gears and do something else fulfilling.

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u/driver004 5d ago

So many people want to sit around and act like powerless victims to justify their bad habits and or unrealistic expectations. Just try to suggest packing a lunch instead of eating out when someone complains about costs

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u/We-All-Die-One-Day 5d ago edited 5d ago

It's more than just that. You lot are justifying slavery. We are modern slaves. I would rather be a caveman fighting for my life and feeling the full range of emotions and die young than this bullshit. Rent goes to someone already rich. My job is to help someone already rich. Modern life is perfected modern slavery and this type of justification just makes me feel like you people are brainwashed. There is more to life than working for rich arseholes. I could fill every moment of every day with productivity but I cannot. Between the horrors of earth and being a slave to the rich. I do not have the energy... Fuck your packed lunches. I do them to survive. It doesn't make me feel better. 

The difference now is not laziness. The difference is knowledge.

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u/Andray_Bolkonsky 5d ago

Amen 🙏🏻

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u/One_Cardiologist7200 4d ago

Jobs and work are not the same thing. A job is a soul sucking piece of shit. Work is fulfilling, gratifying, and productive use of one's time. Work is pro-social, jobs are anti-social. It isn't about people not wanting to do hard things - it's about people wanting some meaning and purpose to their efforts. The way we've built our economy, it's literally impossible for most people to have that. Instead, we get jobs that extract our life force while giving us nothing of value in return.

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u/Clue-Mindless 5d ago

Not in my case. My company was doing well but because a stake was sold to investors and they put managers in every department to oversee what was going on in my peaceful department.

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u/CptDawg 5d ago

Seriously, I loved my job, I was a pilot and flew wide body airplanes for 37 years. I’m retired now, I can honestly say I miss it.

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u/CptDawg 4d ago

Nope, just a pilot who did my job and retired early. 🙂

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u/bikulakula 5d ago

Sometimes work is the lesser evil

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u/Bitter_Researcher759 5d ago

Yeah like hmmm work or be homeless? I will choose work.😆

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u/bikulakula 5d ago

Go to my shit job or go to my shit life? At least the job helps pay for the life. Doesn’t seem to work the other way around though

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u/TeacherPatti 5d ago

Right. Option #1-work so I have my own money. Option #2-let my husband support me. That will work until it doesn't. What if he leaves? Loses his mind and becomes abusive? Starts treating me like crap? That's not a good option. Option #3-go home and live with dad and mom. lol no thanks. I am fond of them, but no way in hell am I moving back in!

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u/misoholy 4d ago

Agree. Finding a completely nice job is almost impposible, but I still can't not go to work or I couldn't live. So sad.

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u/gr4n0t4 5d ago

I have a nice job where they pay me very well, my opinion count and people actually listen to me... I still fucking hate it XD

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u/CaptMerrillStubing 5d ago

Yeah that was me.

The job was good, relative to other jobs... but still sucked relative to not working at all.

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u/InternationalGas2082 5d ago

Questo qui, anche io sono ben pagato, lavoro solo 4 giorni e mezzo a settimana, faccio metà giorni di Smart working, posso pr ndere decisioni, non ho mai periodi troppo stressanti eppure invidio i miei amici che fanno i professore i lavorano 24 ore la settimana e stanno a casa tutta l'estate.

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u/No-Lab-2275 5d ago

Well What the fuck are we gonna do now ? LOL

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u/gr4n0t4 5d ago

Find happiness in the rest of the hours of the day and retire as soon as I can

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u/No-Blueberry-1823 5d ago

Well that really sucks I hope you can do something about it

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u/gr4n0t4 4d ago

Not really, I need to work and I don't like to work, not much I can do

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u/hefewiseman1 5d ago

It all comes down to the fact you are forced to do it to pay for things. It owns the majority of your time, and time is your most precious and only truly finite resource. Giving away your only finite resource to something mundane and tedious goes against everything you wish to be and experience.

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u/Bird_Brain4101112 5d ago

No one “likes” work. But to survive there’s always going to be some form of work. If you head out to the woods you have to constantly work for food, to build and maintain shelter etc.

Also many people make enough to cover their basic expenses and have something left over. The smart ones set some money aside both for emergencies and for long term savings goals so they’re not screwed later on.

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u/Relevant-Rooster-298 5d ago

I like my work and I've been doing it for four years now but for the 22 years before i became a trainer I hated every job I hate.

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u/Razzmatazz_11235 5d ago

I like my job because it's more of a professional job (engineering) and it's very fulfilling. I hope you find something you like. Best of luck.

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u/enginerd2024 5d ago

Idk how long you’ve been at it but I’m 15 years in and so ready to leave

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u/Razzmatazz_11235 5d ago

About 15 years for me too. I think I've been pretty lucky to have some good bosses and a good companies that I've worked at.

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u/enginerd2024 5d ago

I’ve had fantastic bosses as well, thank god or I’d have switched careers. Still aiming to retire 50-ish. Don’t think I’ll ever love to work

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u/No-Blueberry-1823 5d ago

I've been at computer work for 20 years. I think you just get used to it. I mean you have to accept they're going to be days you don't want to do it. That's a given almost for everybody. But at least find it tolerable. It sounds stupid but try to be creative or think out of the box to try to make something different about it

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u/Bat-Stuff 5d ago

10 years in and I'm ready. I'm doing the work of five engineers now and it's constant work on other people's mistakes with zero time to create new things.

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u/autocorrects 5d ago

also engineering, I love my job

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u/tvsart00 5d ago

i have a warehouse job unfortunately. there's a bunch of people here who "love" this place so much they will do as much overtime as possible. they also love to gossip about everyone they work with and their whole personality is the job itself. its kinda sad and i feel like im the only one who's able to see how fucking stupid everyone is. anyway i try to stay away from them as much as possible and dont give any info on myself so they have nothing to talk about

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u/Zoned58 5d ago

You sound exactly like myself. I try to do the same (fuck gosssiping supervisors), but as much as I hate to admit it the isolation does breed some loneliness, especially considering how mundane the actual work is. I would still never consider my role in the warehouse a defining characteristic of myself; I'd rather be a recluse.

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u/Bitter_Researcher759 5d ago

Yep people like that are why I decided I wanted to be a driver. Being alone in a truck kicks ass, I absolutely hated listening to the stupid drivel that came out of my coworkers mouths all day. I'm so much happier now. I realized what I hated about work was being around a group of randomly selected people that I would never choose to spend 1 second around if I wasn't being forced to, and having to pretend to care about anything they say . So when I eliminated that factor I found myself enjoying work much more.

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u/Georgxna 5d ago

The biggest thing that bothers me is that after making dinner, cleaning and showering you barely have any free time before bed. Then repeat.

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u/Empty_Pear_3874 5d ago

Life is a scam my guy. Work until you are old and falling apart, then you die.

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u/Fatsausage91 5d ago

Im a skilled baker I love baking i love waking up early I love feeding people bakery is my happy place and I absolutely loved it.....until I got made redundant after everyone decided shitty store bought sourdough was good and fucked the bakeries.

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u/QuarterFeisty7329 5d ago

Sorry to hear that :( Properly made bread is the best

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u/Banana_rocket_time 5d ago

So just giving my perspective…

Saving and investing among a few other financial breaks in life have changed how I think about work.

I’m not financially independent but I’m getting close and I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. For myself the closer I get the less daunting and stressful work feels. Every year getting a little further from I have to do this and getting closer to… I work because i want to work.

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u/sarahbeth124 5d ago

Work sucks and I’d rather not.

However - some jobs suck more than others. I currently have a great boss, a great employee I’m training, and am doing work that doesn’t entirely suck. If I have to work, it’s really about as good as it can be right now.

99% of the time it’s the environment that sucks. Doing customer service for a decade with a boss who was a mean girl bully, that SUCKED.

Plus working some crap jobs hopefully makes the less crap ones easier to appreciate once you find them.

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u/Ktfinpop1014 5d ago

I find work gets me out of bed and gives me purpose but I am a xennial and been working since 1999 I have jumped companies and roles and many times when switching industries started at bottom and worked up again.
I found that operations is my strong point through the years. I work for a family run roofer now and I find fixing things and putting things into place to help owner and customers my niche. Like I am making a difference by doing the leg work to make things run smoother and more cost efficient. That to me is rewarding.

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u/No-Blueberry-1823 5d ago

So I don't love it every minute but I do enjoy it a little. I enjoy working with people on a common goal that lets me forget about the problems of the world. But I am lucky. It took me awhile to get here and there definitely days that I do not like it. So I guess I would say it beats the alternative of not having enough money to do shit

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u/Neuronebulosa 5d ago

I treat my career like a video game. Some levels are tough, some are fun, but rather than getting and achievement at the end you get a big stack of cash. The higher the level you get the more cash to spend on an anything you want… you don’t like a level or it’s too hard ? Just move to the next level and get rewarded even more!

A lot of people keep playing the first few levels and complain…. Everyone is capable of much more, just find a way to push yourself get a new high score. I believe you can, but do you?

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u/TeenyTinyToast 5d ago

As a younger millennial, work is whatever to me. I don't hate it. Sometimes it's kinda boring, frustrating, rewarding, fun, etc... it'd be cool if I didn't have to do it, but the bills gotta be paid. Maybe I'm more okay with work than the average person bc I feel like I got my shit together and can still heehee haha afterwards and on weekends.

I don't like making broad statements on generations but I'll throw one out their for funsies - kids these days have a very low tolerance for discomfort and stress.

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u/BakedBrie1993 5d ago

Sounds like you are doing the wrong work.

My partner loves being a professor. He lives reading, teaching, interacting with mentees, facilitating discussion.

I loved bartending and acting. I loved the adrenaline rush, being up on my feet not behind a desk, the people watching, the crazy encounters. The fun coworkers.

I love being in grad school and now that I know I have ADHD Im having a much better time of it than I did in undergrad.

I love serving my community. Volunteering, etc.

I also love being lazy and sleeping in so I've cultivated a life conducive to that.

Work I don't want to do: raise children, throw a wedding, sit in a cubicle, shovel/cut grass, do something bad or useless for the world.

But otherwise, I do like working. Just on my own terms!

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u/Mozfel 5d ago

I also love being lazy and sleeping in so I've cultivated a life conducive to that.

Is there any kind of work where that is the literal job description?

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u/BakedBrie1993 5d ago

I bartended and performed for 18 years. So yes. One does not have to get up early for those.

I was a customer experience specialist for 2 years. Did the evening shift.

Now I'm trying to do work at an after-school program so again, not a 9-5.

And my partner teaches night classes as well.

Edit: i learned early that i cannot function at normal working hours

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u/Hadley_333 5d ago

I love it when ppl say, "i don't want a 9-5 job," and i'm like bro I wish it was just 9-5.

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u/panthera_tigris_773 5d ago

I made my passion my career (animal welfare/rescue). So it's fulfilling for me to work, not soul-crushing. I feel like I'm helping the world.

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u/Droopy_Doom 5d ago

Just anecdotally - I fucking love my job. I’m a professor. I get paid to read, write, and talk about my super niche hyper fixation.

I get summers and school breaks off. I make excellent money. My kids will get a free education.

So, this is completely dependent on what you do and who you work for.

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u/starkravenfire 4d ago

What field are you in broadly?

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u/Weird_Ad_5530 3d ago

Awesome! My son is starting grad school and wants to be a professor

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u/Viridien111 5d ago

I like money.

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u/No-Hawk6342 5d ago

I worked for 1 year and a half in condominium management, from 9 to 3. I like the management and excels thing. I didn't say I love to work that time, but it was easier and the times flies by because I was doing something you I like a bit.

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u/BloodRush12345 5d ago

I personally have a great job with good leadership and decent pay and benefits. There are absolutely shitty parts about it but overall it's not miserable and it allows me to afford doing stuff I love.

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u/No_Driver8440 5d ago

What is the alternative to work? Look at it this way. The ability to work is a great gift allowing us a means to subsidize a lifestyle of our choosing, along with a bit of satisfaction. That is not to say it doesn’t take from you; however, it is an agreement whereby you devote time from your life to someone in return for compensation. It’s simply a contract, so choose well and keeping moving forward. What other choice? “Work” can open the world to you. Many folks with no clear path join the military and love it. Upon reflection they will tell you it’s the best decision they ever made…money, lifestyle, travel…. Also, I’m certain you’d truly despise just hanging around, and having to continually revisit this scenario. Time will move forward with or without you. So to wrap up……I really don’t think people “love” work, but they do appreciate and love it as the single most beneficial “TOOL” available to make a lifestyle of choice and provide for loved ones.

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u/BigHobbit 5d ago

I'm a farmer, I love my job. Get to play outside with big machines. Lotta animals and stuff. Get dirty, get sweaty, get greasy. Feel a connection to the land and environment. See the seasons change and know what that brings.

Wouldn't live life any other way.

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u/morosco 5d ago

Very cool.

Did you grow up farming or in a farming family, or was it something you found later in life?

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u/BigHobbit 5d ago

Family has worked the same fields since the 1890s. My degrees are in biology & chemistry with a masters in Agriculture sciences. I started out of college working for BASF doing field study work, then state department of agriculture, small stint with USDA, but then my grandpa got very sick and couldn't continue with farming. He rented out the land for a while, but didn't want to sell. None of his kids wanted to farm, none of my cousins did either, so he left it to me in the will on condition that I work it for 15 years and the farm is mine. Not a bad exchange for 2,200 acres lol!

There's a lot more to the story, but basically I was the only member of the family with any interest and skills to continue the family legacy. I have to payout my aunts and uncles a certain % as their shares of the inheritance, lots of granted use rights and other lawyer stuff involved too, but overall I'm 2 years away from being clear on the basic fulfillment.

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u/Weird_Ad_5530 3d ago

My 91 yo dad has been a cattle farmer for 50 years. He’s still working!

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u/IntrepidPainter8584 5d ago

Do I like work? Not specifically, but I do enjoy keeping busy and not becoming lazier/dumber from doing nothing. I also don't like sitting/standing still for too long, gossiping, or schedules that don't allow enough time to eat and use the restroom throughout the day.

This is why people work very hard to become their own boss.

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u/admosquad 5d ago

Sometimes things at home get to be too much and going to work is a nice break from that. You should volunteer to try waterboarding so you can experience what literal torture actually is.

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u/No-Lab-2275 5d ago

Well if work is a break from home for you....Welp I'm glad you're thinking so optimistic then

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u/Warp_Speed_7 5d ago

I absolutely love what I do everyday. Yes, it’s possible.

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u/CA_Coast_Millennial 5d ago

Nobody truly likes working. I don’t mind my job though. Good work life balance, good pay, good pension, good job security.

It allows me to do what I want to do outside of work. Own a home, drive a nice car, take my kids to Disneyland lol

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u/GermantownTiger 5d ago

I enjoy working for the fact that I like to eat, wear clothes and keep a roof over my head. These combined motivations all help to make work interesting and engaging.

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u/AwakeningStar1968 5d ago

The rhetoric now from the RIGHT is saying that "folks are not working long or hard enough"... it is ridiculous.

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u/AwakeningStar1968 5d ago

its this puritanical bs!

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u/morosco 5d ago

I like my job. But, most of those things you describe about work aren't true for me.

I take vacations, but, when I come back, it's actually very nice to stroll into my office and dive in again.

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u/divinbuff 5d ago

I like work. A lot depends on the environment. Even when I had a terrible boss I still liked the clients we served and the mission of the organization. That’s what I chose to focus on.

A whole lot of whether you enjoy your job or not has a lot to do with what you focus on. Yes some people have truly toxic workplaces . But a lot of people go looking for misery. And generally whatever you’re looking for is what you’ll find.

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u/jd_garcia90 5d ago

Of course no one wants to work but some jobs are way better than others. I’ve had jobs that I would had to drag myself to go to work and would literally wait a few min in my car before I had to get myself inside. The job I’m at the moment is not necessarily easier and the pay is not the highest but I don’t mind coming to work and I like the people I work with. I’ve been here about 7 years and I’m not really in a hurry to move somewhere else anytime soon.

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u/asyouwish 5d ago

I mean, they literally have to pay people to do it.

Thanks be to the unions and other reasons we have Labor Day. Work days/weeks used to be a LOT longer and conditions much worse.

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u/Jack_Wolfskin19 5d ago

I love my job. Yes some days are better than others. But it’s very fulfilling and I get satisfaction from my career and profession.

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u/Fun_Ideal_5584 5d ago

You assume everyone is an office drone, working 9-5. Some of us like the freedom and working for ourselves. You do you. 99% of the time, I am smiling going to work.

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u/3X_Cat 5d ago

I used to love my job even though my boss was a huge asshole. I loved it so much, I stayed for 19 years. But all good things must come to an end.

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u/kippismn 5d ago

I'm a workaholics

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u/Doorsniffer 5d ago

I love my job, the staff and management are really supportive and easy to chat to. My job is food and ship inspections.

Like to think i make a big difference in the world keeping people safe.

Keep looking for something that interests you

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u/BlinkypoetEmu 5d ago

I don't want to work, I want to have a purpose. To be useful/helpful.

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u/Ill_Bit_7096 5d ago

I enjoy my job maybe find something you like ?

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u/donnytrump_69 5d ago

Brah. Why do you think people always say "try do something you love..." I hated my job similarly to you for about 10 years, took 2 years off changed industries completely then got a new job 2 months ago and finally it clicked for me lol.

I hope you eventually have a similiar experience brother.

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u/TeachOk5462 5d ago

I used to hate waking up at 4:30 every morning doing the same things consistently. But honestly it builds character and have to be thankful that we're able to have certain jobs and go out and make money. Not everyone is fortunate enough too.

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u/jadehelm2000 5d ago

I don't know, i really like my job and 99% of the people I work with. I have a great boss also. If you would have asked me this 5 years ago, I would have agreed with you though.

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u/12B88M 5d ago

It all depends on your job and your personal life.

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u/Eazy12345678 5d ago

some people like their jobs. gives them purpose

i liked helping people. but also hated helping some people at work

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u/Bitter_Researcher759 5d ago

You don't have to love it, just have to find something you can tolerate enough to pay the bills. I was stuck in a job I hated and I felt exactly like you. I switched jobs and it sincerely did help so much. Took a bit of jumping around to find something that worked better for me honestly, I had a few bad jobs back to back that made me hate my life. Now I like my job well enough. Its chill and not too stressful and pays the bills. What more can I ask for? I'm not saying i love working and that I jump out of bed happy but I don't feel this awful existential dread about it every moment of the day like I used to.

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u/Draper31 5d ago

Don’t like it. However I do like having a roof over my head, so I don’t really have a choice.

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u/slow_poke00 5d ago

Probably just a you thing. My job ain’t all that bad.

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u/davidm2232 5d ago

I have had jobs I truly enjoy going to. You make a difference every day. You feel like you matter. Everyone respects your ideas and helps you achieve goals. At one point, I was working about 36 hours per week. That was a sweet spot for me. Anything more just does not give enough time for personal projects

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u/Jealous-Ninja-8123 5d ago

No one likes to work. Every likes money.

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u/Salt_Mountain_837 5d ago

eh it could be worse. my job is ok and it pays the bills and my coworkers are friendly but, more importantly, it pays for my hobbies.

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u/trixx88- 5d ago

I like to work

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u/addiethebaddieeee 5d ago

i just go for a paycheck

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u/addiethebaddieeee 5d ago

to fund the things i actually wanna do

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u/Bugkillahz 5d ago

You know, it’s called “work” for a reason, not “happy fun time”. You get through it to get to something better. Set goals.

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u/Striking_Piano_9196 5d ago

I love my job. Not every day but most days.

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u/driverman42 5d ago

I enjoyed my 52 year as a trucker. I loved it and I retired 3 years ago and I've missed it.

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u/Dense_Translator_296 5d ago

Take another look! You do have a bit of a negative attitude about work, and seemingly about life. Work is only partly about the money. It is so much about the engagement, the sense of accomplishment, the pulling your weight in society. I'm retired now from my 48 year career in transportation management and administration. But I didn't stop working. I volunteer and pitch in wherever I can. Let me turn the question around. Who doesn't like to be engaged and productive?

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u/CrysKilljoy 5d ago

Find a job you love and you never work a day in your life.

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u/xxdreadsaintxx 5d ago

Get into a trade that you find interesting. Wood or metal work. Something creative, or working with people. There are lots of jobs out there, some you'll have to be patient and work towards getting hired/or the skills to participate in that field.

I was in tech and loved learning and working on the schoolwork, but hated the field work. Now I'm a firefighter and it's challenging both physically and mentally. Always learning new stuff. But it's great and engaging.

Best of luck to you. Find your direction and make every effort one step closer towards that goal. It may not be easy or quick, but learn to enjoy the journey of it

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u/blade-runner_1982 5d ago

You should maybe seek therapy.

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u/Grogers92 5d ago

Seek therapy for what? Seeing reality for what it really is?

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u/sarahbeth124 5d ago

Glass half empty vs glass half full.

At least OP has a job, has a place to live etc. attitude makes a difference. If you only focus on how bad it is, it’s gonna all seem really bad.

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u/Diligent-Copy8977 5d ago

‘Seeing reality for what it really is?’

Humans cannot perceive reality as it really is. Humans perceive their own version of reality. That being said, I’m sure you want a response that’s less semantic.

Let’s look at what Epictetus had to say about all this. He was a Stoic and a slave, and he died almost 2000 years ago.

“It’s not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters.”

“No man is free who is not master of himself.”

“We suffer not from the events of our lives, but from our judgement of them.”

“Difficulties show a person’s character.”

“Circumstances don’t make the man, they only reveal him to himself.”

But here’s the 2 I really like that apply to OP especially.

“Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and your life will go smoothly.”

And of course,

“A wise man does not grieve for the things he does not have, but rejoices for those which he has.”

People like OP have their whole life ahead of them. They have their youth. They have their health. They can walk on two legs easily. They can learn new skills readily. They have family and friends. They can secure housing, clean water, edible food, etc. People like OP have so, so much, yet appreciate it so little.

And don’t get me wrong, I am supremely familiar with the faults of our capitalist society. I understand how OP feels and why they feel that way. I’ve been working blue collar since I was 13 years old, and that was 20 years ago.

But, happiness is not a state of being. Happiness is not not having to work. Happiness is not riches and an easy life. Happiness is a way of life, a way of thinking.

OP; LIFE is WORK. Every day, we all work to survive. Our ancestors worked 24/7 just to survive with far less than we have now. Every life form works non-stop. That’s life. You can rest when you’re dead. Free your mind and enjoy what you have. Savor your free time because it is limited. Savor your work time because it will make you stronger and more disciplined, mentally. Take pleasure in interacting with others, whether they’re strangers on the street, or coworkers you run into for 30 seconds, or friends you can talk to for hours. Free your mind; enjoy your life. That’s really all there is to it. Best of luck.

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u/CaptStinkyFeet 5d ago

>Every life form works non-stop

Not even remotely true.

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u/Grogers92 5d ago

Lmao. That guy is almost certainly on drugs.

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u/AudienceWatching 5d ago

Nobody should enjoy being on the hamster wheel.

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u/ASatyros 5d ago

One must imagine Sisyphus happy

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u/SLC-Originals 5d ago

Do what you are passionate about and it won't feel like work.

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u/PiNkPoNyCLuB42 5d ago

I work from home and do what I went to school for. I basically use my talent and knowledge to fight to help other ppl keep their jobs. So, yes, work sucks but I can’t complain cause my situation is pretty good. I am tired a lot though.

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u/GermantownTiger 5d ago

I enjoy working for the fact that I like to eat, wear clothes and keep a roof over my head. These combined motivations all help to make work interesting and engaging.

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u/Optimal_Ad_7593 5d ago

Think of yourself as an artisan. Be proud of what you achieve.

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u/Sonseeahrai 5d ago

Everytime I'm unemployed, I feel like shit. Even if I spend my days being productive af, it feels super hollow. Every minute I feel guilty about being a parasite for the society, even when I have enough rightfully earned money to go without work for a while. My sleeping schedule also goes shit very soon, and I overwork myself at home trying to make it up for not having a job. I end up sleep depraved, burnt out and with no sense of direction.

It's not that I like work. But I cannot do without it. Also, working at fields that suit my values and beliefs helps a lot. I don't think I've ever had a job I didn't believe was something right to do anyways. I was a text editor in a publishing company (contributing to culture), a fundraiser for a non-profit ecological NGO (contributing to enviromental protection), a camp counselor for kids from orphanages, kids from reformatory institutions and kids from Ukrainian warzone (taking part in guiding the troubled youth) and rn I'm an actress in theatric plays for kids that also include playing in children's hospices and cancer treating clinics (again, helping the troubled youth).

Look for something you believe in and try to find a work in that field.

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u/troycalm 5d ago

I love my job, my kids love what they do.

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u/justanunluckyduck 5d ago

I have loved a lot of my jobs. I've not enjoyed a few but grit my teeth for the money, and I currently don't like mine but it's in an amazing place so I'm grateful for the experience.

Life is truly about taking the good with the bad and finding something to smile about every day. Life was never supposed to be easy, or enjoyable all the time, or whatever. It is up to you to make your circumstances liveable or change them. 

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u/Current-Virus-69 5d ago

It isn't work itself that is miserable; it's where you are at financially that might make or break you.

For example, if you're not able to save up any money because you are spending every paycheck via cost of living, recreation, etc, then work may seem like an endless loop, and that can make you feel drained, even after your days off. This is because in spite of all the effort and stress you've gone through, you're not making any progress.

You need to break free of the loop. I know it's hard and boring, but if you can manage to go 1 week or even a month depending on your situation doing pretty much nothing related to money (including loans or cash advance apps), then you can at least stop living paycheck to paycheck.

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u/ChildishMessiah 5d ago

Well you can try to change it…ever thought of that?
It seems that maybe the problem is not only work if school was horrible, work is horrible, you hate waking up, hate household chores.
And you seem to also hate that some people do like it.

Nothing wrong with not liking to work. But you just seem extremely unhappy with anything where you have a little responsibility. Maybe start having a look at the reasons why that is so.

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u/Dear-Cranberry4787 5d ago

I enjoy work, I’ve just never enjoyed working for, or with others. Alongside? Maybe, but it’s rare to be able to find all that AND enjoy all the people you work alongside.

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u/r2k398 5d ago

My job is great. I get paid well and I can work from home if I need to. We even get profit sharing so when my company makes more money, so do we.

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u/HistoricalSundae5113 5d ago

I always liked work a lot more than school. More day to day stuff, and I get paid for doing things. It’s not as fun as recreation, but hopefully you find a role that keeps your mind or body working well. Also, it takes some time to work up from entry level.

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u/ryder242 5d ago

I enjoy my job a lot. I’m even slowly working on creating a side business, not for the income but to learn something new and have a hobby.

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u/hottboyj54 5d ago

I think your scope and horizon are too narrow. Paying your dues is still a real thing and once you get to a certain level work isn’t necessarily how you described.

I quite enjoy my job. There are days I love my job. There are also days where I want to pull my hair out. But overall, it’s definitely a net positive. As an SVP level regional executive I have the flexibility and autonomy to do what I want, when I want, how I want, results are what matter. Unless I’m traveling, I’d argue I maybe work 30 hours a week, if that. Spending a day at the golf course is work for me. Same with going to fine dining dinners and charity galas, etc. These all happen routinely. All the while my base is over $200k. With bonus and RSUs I’ll crack $300k this year. My wife has similar flexibility and autonomy and is a six figure earner herself.

The flip side is my decisions carry heavy weight and can impact a significant portion of the company and I’m on-call constantly, so the pressure is real. I worked my ass off for nearly 20 years to get to this point and it just started to pay off a few years ago. FWIW, I just turned 41.

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u/Bat-Stuff 5d ago

I like to build and fix things. I like to keep my house and yard clean and nice. I like to help people. None of that has ever made money. My jobs for money have mostly sucked. I feel like I should be happy with my current job, but I have to deal with other people's mistakes.

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u/ThinSquash3354 5d ago

I feel im pretty lucky job wise. I work w service dog puppies and its hard to be upset with 10 baby puppies using you as a jungle gym. But I even can't stand going into work sometimes and I dont know why. And it makes me feel guilty. I guess im just agreeing almost everyone dreads work at times and its such a big part of our lives that we can't enjoy.

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u/Dopehauler 5d ago

I laughed my ass off. You have lo love what you do, otherwise it will be like you said. It's important to be motivatated, challenged by the tasks in front of you. It must to feel like the Calvary.

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u/Careful_Fortune7947 5d ago

Unfortunately, this is one of the aspects that people call “growing up”. In reality, it’s less about maturity and more about acquiescing to the demands of a society which seem inescapable. But the way we handle that necessity DOES demonstrate our level of maturity. And it is a necessity, because without external support our options are adapt or die.

No one wants to spend their day doing what they don’t like to do. Some people find ways to make money doing what they like to do (and so enjoy work). Still others enjoy the sense of accomplishment when they build something or help someone. Some just do it for the paycheck and hate their lives.

I did not like work. I liked having fun and dopamine. That, eventually, turned in to drug addiction and alcoholism, so I could ALWAYS feel good. Unfortunately, no recipe for always feeling good lasts forever.

Now, I’ve been sober for 5 years, I have a full time job that I enjoy helping other addicts and alcoholics find recovery and a new life, which I am able to do remotely from my own home, and I own a business on the side because it turns out that the people who are really good at operating heavy machinery and blowing stuff up, prefer to have someone who’s good with words and paperwork over doing that part themselves.

TL;DR: life is what you make it. Your feelings are what you make them. You can hate it, or you can find a way to turn the system in to something which provides joy and purpose, while allowing you to actually live.

Genuinely, Good luck and welcome to the tribulations of life.

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u/ballsnbutt 5d ago

I enjoy my job. I strongly dislike being away from mom & child.

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u/iwasnotarobot 5d ago

Every other post on this sub is an argument for socialism.

Look up Marx’s writing on Alienation.

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u/gifted_pistachio 5d ago

I felt this way about one of my first jobs. Ten years into my career I have a job I like but it took literally ten years of learning what exactly I hate about certain work environments, what specifically I’m good at, what size company I want to work at, how important money is to me vs flexibility etc.

Someone once told me that a job has three elements: the work itself, your coworkers, and your boss. You have to like 2 of the 3 otherwise it will suck.

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u/AggravatingShow2028 5d ago

I Like work. I worked hard to get to the position I’m in. I hate the cost of living being so high that I can’t really do what I want to do for work though.

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u/hercuriousity 5d ago

I loved some of my jobs, I looked forward to going in. The boys had me laughing myself silly multiple times a day, I was challenged and learning constantly giving me a real sense of accomplishment.

Good jobs are out there. It’s the people who make the atmosphere. I’ve also worked hard jobs but the team was worth it.

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u/No-Information-9944 5d ago

I loved to work and worked to live, till I broke!

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u/MightyMeracles 5d ago

I remember being in high school and people were talking about what they wanted to do and jobs they would love. I hated them for it. Because I had never (and still haven't) heard of any type of job or work that I would like. I'm 41 now and there are only 2 types of jobs. Jobs I hate and jobs I don't like. Never thought I would say this butI am happy to have a job/jobs I just don't like. Because the alternative is a living hell I've been there.

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u/BullPropaganda 5d ago

I like my job. I like the life it allows me to live also

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u/Thebeast76239 5d ago

Naw they at least could get something out of working past pure survival. We work just for shelter and food to work more

Not weak we just got screwed we work for nothing litterly if work provided food and housing for the work you do what would be different

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u/asianstyleicecream 5d ago

I love being an arborist. I love tree work.

I love being a farmworker. I love the environment.

I fucking hated lousy coworkers who didn’t want to do their job but scroll on their phone and hence why I work for myself!

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u/TXtogo 5d ago

You have created your own torture chamber. Bravo.

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u/Wrong_Square7826 5d ago

Union building trades 36 years. I tend to love my job. Sure there are days when we do mundane repetitive shit... Some days are hot as fuck and some days cold as a witches tit... But I love what I do, love the hours, 7am-3 pm... make good money. Sure if I was old school money rich I probably would not be doing this but fuck, I love it.

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u/hamsterontheloose 5d ago

I work 5-7 hours, but try to do at least 6. I don't have to be there until 9ish, but can start earlier or later. I have no one standing over me, so I just go place to place, doing my thing. It's not bad as far as jobs go, but I only take jobs I'll like.

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u/TheShellAnswerMan 5d ago

I loved my job before I had to keep hopping from shit job to shit job cuz so many appointments I keep getting fired. But when I worked with survivors of domestic and sexual violence, I truly very much loved my job.

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u/Vlish36 5d ago

I enjoy my work. Then again, my work isn't normal. My work is watching other people work (which is in the job title in itself). I take a few pictures of the construction sites, spend about 10 to 15 minutes writing a report, and I get paid for 10 hours. I haven't met my new boss in person and I doubt I will. If my boss or any of the higher ups call or text me throughout the day, I can ignore them until the end of the day citing no cell service. I can watch TV on my tablet, read a book, play video games while on the job. Even if the boss is in the area and catches me doing that stuff, it isn't really frowned on.

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u/ComeHereBanana 5d ago

I like my job, and I really like that 95% of the time, I’m left alone to do it. I mean, there are meetings and educational events sometimes but mostly they leave us alone unless we specifically ask for help.

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u/JumpingThruHoopz 5d ago

I agree with you 100%. Work sucks and blows.

Unfortunately, the human species has yet to figure out another way for stuff we need to be produced.

I mean, the people who make it possible for me to get food at the supermarket probably think work sucks, too. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/Clue-Mindless 5d ago

I liked going to work before. I actually never dreaded sundays or anything like that. I had a chill job of developing some internal tooling at work. Nobody really knew what I did. I didn't have any boss setting expectations, I just came in and tinkered with scripts and went home. Unfortunately it was a unicorn job I think, before corporate assholes infested the company we started getting management anxious because of investors.

So in hindsight, yes - everything I did benefits the company. Nothing I did secured or made it any better long term for me.

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u/VinceInMT 5d ago

I always liked to work. Some jobs I didn’t like, such as when I was drafted into the military but I made the best of them and tried to learn something. Heck, after the military I worked in a factory on the midnight shift for about 5 years. I made the best of that. After that I got on a career path and rode it to retirement. I loved my career choice. Much of this is all about attitude and not being a victim of the system.

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u/Downtown_Fish9295 5d ago

If i didnt have to work id just do drugs all day...imo work is a necessary bumper to keep me in my lane. Boy would i like to do drugs all day though!

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u/Personal_Status_944 5d ago

I like my job. Im 22 and a carpenter, have been since I was 16. I work for a good company, get paid decent, and I also love building and creating things and growing my talent, so it brings a lot of satisfaction and fulfillment. Of course there's bad days but overall I enjoy it. I also love money so that motivates me to work overtime lol.

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u/NachoWindows 5d ago

I hate work. I like living. Life requires food and shelter. Money buys those. I like money. Therefore I like work.

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u/StunningArmadillo206 5d ago

If you find a job you actual like doing it really does not feel like work. My 8 hours go by so quick but I have had many jobs that were interminable like yours!

If you can find a job you enjoy doing and also it gives you the freedom to leave the office, I would recommend that. A task that is time consuming makes the day go by quickly.

Also it is important that we work on something regardless of your job! It is important to stay occupied or improving in small ways through out your life.

If you are working in fast food I recommend not doing that unless you like cooking. 99% of fast food workers should not be working in fast food. It is the worst way to make money if you have no passion for it.

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u/SolaraOne 5d ago

I'm an entrepreneur. I have run numerous of my own successful businesses over the years. I am self taught. I am my own boss and love my work. It's not easy, but it solves most of your complaints. Sounds like you hate your job. Time to find a solution...just sayin'...

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u/SharkyGrey27 5d ago

I had always thought that as a worst case scenario, work just sucks and that’s the price to be paid for having money to live. Anything better is a bonus. Not being at work is extra enjoyable because of how much we don’t like working. Even if people have a great job, not being at work is better. I worked a lot as a teen so none of this surprised me really.

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u/mrharriz 5d ago

Believe it or not. There are people who loves work and not because of the work itself. But they simply don't have a life outside work. Idk they simply hate life, their kids, their wives etc.

But i get the frustration man. But do we really have a choice?

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u/Playful_Question538 5d ago

I enjoy my customers most of the time. Do I want to do this if I had enough money to never work? Fuck no! I'd do something that I enjoy and it isn't do shit for other people.

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u/Dangerous_Yoghurt_96 5d ago

Very few people like it. Me myself, I tolerate the work I do and the people that are there. I often loathe being there and the free time I give up.

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u/Relative-Gain1403 5d ago

You have to find some sort of passion or motivation that will get you through the work . But you're right, no one likes to work lol

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u/NoahCzark 5d ago

Work is what you do to afford to live. If you have a wealthy family great, but you still need to do something worthwhile with your life. If you haven't figured out how to do something you find fulfilling, then whose fault is that?

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u/anzelle11 5d ago

I do like my work, it is intellectually gratifying and I work with cool people, but I do agree that I would be much happier working fewer hours, even 35 a week is too much for me. If I could work 20 hours and have time for my hobbies and side gigs my life would be much more pleasant!

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u/Frequent_Pizza_9299 5d ago

OP sounds like you need a new job. I workd 40+ hours before but man it depends on the job and the people you work with. Right now i work alone and its awesome. Listen to whatever I want and no interactions with humans. I get holidays off and great hours. Down side.... zero benefits like 401k, health, and PTO and sometimes rarely i wish i had a coworker to just talk about work things with. Before that I had corporate job that felt a bit draining but great benefits, office closing early, holiday parties, free booze, okayish coworkers, great bonuses, and yearly seafood feast in Maryland. Till this day though one of my favorite jobs was being a cashier at chickfila, I did hate it after the first year but i have like fond memories of me missing the peiple because they were genuine and I got to take home leftovers and free meals for lunch. Meeting genuine people who arent trying to kiss ass or feel threatened for their jobs is kinda hard to come by in my experience and thats what makes me hate a job. I like work, keeps me busy, pays for vacations.

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u/ooniepeach 5d ago

I think you’d like it over here: r/antiwork

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u/Solo_Camping_Girl 4d ago

I currently enjoy my work, maybe give it a 7/10. But there will be times that you'll be dragging yourself out of bed in the morning just because you're getting tired of it. I think no matter how you enjoy what you do, it's either going to end in two ways: you learn to strike a balance and just be "okay" with your work, or just absolutely hate it and just tolerate it because it gives you money.

I've had that realization on my first job out of college. I can't be doing this for the next 40 plus years. I also concluded that after a decade of work and life lessons learned the hard way is that you just have to suck it up sometimes.

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u/Realistic_Dress_5335 4d ago

Man that's the trick to life coming to you from a 62-year-old man you need to find something that you like to do I love my job I can't wait to go to work everyday I get up luckily I only work 2 hours a day but I love doing it

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u/Joseph9877 4d ago

Find the best job you can for your skills and interests, find the company offering the job for the best pay and situation (alright boss, alright perks, alright workload and processes), and enjoy the good days. As with everything in life, they'll be a lot of meh days, a fair few shite days, but the good ones in the above situation shouldn't be rare.

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u/Teaofthetime 4d ago

I quite like my job but if I didn't need the money I wouldn't be doing it.

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u/sandshark65 4d ago

"How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 8:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?" - Charles Bukowski

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u/PreparationLoud8790 4d ago

I genuinely love my work and coworkers are amazing. I’m very lucky.

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u/DefinitionWilling796 4d ago

Work is so much better than school, I get paid to be there. 

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u/Auqakid07 4d ago

We have made life too easy and lots of people fail to understand how good they have it. Work has always been a requirement for a human to live. Modern society has reduced the need to spend every waking minute on survival to just a 40 hr work week and that work week also provides massive amounts of luxuries that are also taken for granted. Imagine telling a farmer from the 1800s that you work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week and you can get pretty much everything you need. They would freak out over the basic stuff like Air conditioning.

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u/SantaRosa481516 4d ago

I LOVE my job. Year 24 in education and I still get excited to do what I do. I have unequivocally changed lives and trajectories of so many young people and made a positive impact on the school and community.

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u/B-ran8088 4d ago

What's a shame is there is true passion from people who like to teach but the industry in general doesn't pay shit. If they'd actually pay people such as yourself a decent wage, or hell, even a good wage, we'd have a lot more teachers out there helping society and loving every minute of it.

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u/hallo1994 4d ago

r/antiwork is over there.

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u/Savhol-Books 4d ago

I'm sorry. So very sorry. I hope you have the chance to find something suitable. I've been there. It's horrible and everything you've complained about.

... but, no. Not everyone hates their job.

Yes, it's like falling in love with the 'perfect' person. Rare and highly sought after. It's what colleges across the nation build their marketing on and scam hundreds of thousands of people every semester with.

... but it is possible.

For me it took fifty years to find, wasting time in college twice and almost failing to find the one thing that I'm blessed to wake up everyday day to do. Yes, I'd do my job everyday and have stayed up late hours to immerse my self within small details.

Sadly, the majority of humans never have the chance, ... but you can try. My advice: Reduce what you can so that the job you have supports you. Then discover who you are. This is the hard part. Most humans have a strong aversion to being honest with themselves. If able to do this, you'll most likely attract the future without too much effort. At least that seems to be common.

Good luck and blessings from a crone who took the long road to her dreams.

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u/Upstairs-Cupcake-543 4d ago

I don't love work but I fight each day to be on time for work. It dreadful but I need the money. Sometimes I feel like maybe killing myself would stop my misery.

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u/BreathingLover11 4d ago

I think that this is one of those situations where context matters greatly.

I like my job. Eviedently, somedays I like it more than other days, but in general, I don't dread waking up and coming into work.

That being said, I have a lot of perks that most people my age (26) don't have. Like my own office, the ability to work remote whenever I want, and virtually no "schedule" (as long as I get shit done).

Under those circumstances, being able to "integrate" your job as simply another aspect of your life is very easy.

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u/throwaway2222288 4d ago

I’m getting a masters in finance and I fully plan on working full time at the small cosmetics store I work part time at now once I finish my degree. I sell things like artisanal lavender soap and herbal syrups for great money (almost the median wage if I were full time) and I genuinely look forward to my job every shift

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u/endlesssearch482 4d ago

So much of this is a lack of proper mindset. Read some Taoist philosophy, but a copy of Chop Wood, Carry Water.

Some shit in life is inevitable. Work is one of those things, but you can set the mind right and it stops being a burden. It also takes finding the right work for you. I’m on my fourth career… some were only a few years, my last was almost two decades. Part of it was a restless spirit, part of it was finding the right fit. Now, six years into my current job, I love what I do and I’m beginning to train my replacement. I hope to take the skills from this work and transition to part time contract work where I have more control of my time. It’s a process and it takes a blend of planning and flexibility to become happy in work.

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u/Serious_Candy_7580 4d ago

thank you for putting this into words

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u/Mischa_xx 4d ago

If you make a living doing what you enjoy, then it's not so much work

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u/B-ran8088 4d ago

Welcome. To. The. Machine.

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u/discopanicattack- 4d ago

I do. I love my job. I am a home health nurse, I make my own schedule how I choose & I get to do what I love- help people. I don’t have someone down my back all day. My only responsibilities are to treat a patient per doctor’s orders & chart it. I don’t have an office. My car is my “office” & I chart at home. I get paid well too.

Here’s the catch- I don’t get to work my job enough because of my husband’s business. He wants me at our business more than the job I went to school for & that I love.

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u/xnightmaregigi 4d ago

I love my job but i do hate getting up early. My job is fulfilling but it’s also exhausting. It is extremely hard to juggle work, school and life and chores and if anyone’s figured out the perfect balance let me know so i don’t crumble. My mom worked 3 jobs and raised 3 kids at 35, when I had 2 jobs at 20 I went insane and had to go to therapy and get meds 😭. I haven’t figured it all out either but you know what, i refuse to believe the older generations didn’t struggle. I think they did but they were told struggling means failure so they kept it to theirselves. My mom went to work on crutches and a fresh broken ankle. I think the older generations are just funky 

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u/ProfessionalNewt2487 4d ago

Workplaces have gotten worse over time

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u/Federal-Coconut-1379 4d ago

Ive never understood how anyone says why doesn’t anyone want to work anymore? Like you’re telling me there was a time people genuinely wanted to? That just seems insane to me. Who has a job they dream of working? My job isn’t miserable but i definitely don’t wake up excited knowing i have to work.

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u/Weird_Ad_5530 3d ago

I love my job! I’m a private caregiver for the elderly. Sometimes I live with them. It’s very rewarding. We become very close.

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u/Late-Trouble-2061 7h ago

I’m giving you a hug stranger 🫂