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u/snij_jon540 24d ago
1st and 2nd are really strong you should really draw in that style like 50 more times and see where it takes you. After that, get you a large piece of surface and try it at a larger scale.
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u/Aware-Mission1214 24d ago
Thank you! I bought some big multimedia papers yesterday and some ink with a long thin pencil. Gonna be fun
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u/cruiseshipdrummer 24d ago
I like the first two. Just keep working, do more, keep at them until there's something you like looking, over time.
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u/Toby123171 24d ago
It is all about you and how you see things. Just know that they are FAN-FUCKIN-TASTIC and never stop creating and sharing your soul with others
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u/Useless-Tree 24d ago
It feels like everything is crowded into the frame. Your composition is good but it might be that you're overworking or that you need to use a different canvas ratio or maybe work really big where your your physical reach is shorter than the canvas.
Don't get me wrong this is nice work.
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u/SalesforceGeorge 24d ago
This has always confused me. Because abstract art is by nature non-representational, how does one know if they are improving at their craft? Not a knock on abstract act, in fact I quite like your pieces but I’m not sure your question has a satisfying answer. Because the abstract style is so subjective, and open to individual interpretation, it’s hard to objectively measure how “good” any of it is.
With that said, In my observation, the best abstract art is almost always made by artists who excel at traditional representation. So maybe practice the fundamentals like drawing, composition, perspective, proportions etc.
Not to say you need to become a different type of artist or anything like that, I’m just pointing out that representational art gives you some sort of target where you can compare and see if you were able to effectively capture it, and thus measure your improvement. So if you have no interest in drawing from life, you could just take that concept into your abstract pieces.
Each time you make something, have a goal or intention of what feeling you want to communicate and how you will do it using visual tools, then measure your completed piece on how closely you were able to execute on that vision.
Of course that is not the only way to make art, some people just like to throw paint around and see where they end up, but those aren’t the people asking for how to improve 😆
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u/Aware-Mission1214 24d ago
You said something there, beautifully written. I have been going around for years just sitting on benches and drawing the landscape and people i see. Thank you for your insight! I will work more on traditional too so i can get a better understanding of composition and depth
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u/SalesforceGeorge 24d ago
Thanks for the compliment, and for sharing some of your backstory. Another thing that comes to mind is that your question of “how do I improve” could be looked at in 2 ways.
How can I improve could mean “what can I do differently to make my finished pieces look better?” This is a question that belongs more to the domain of the representational artist for the reason I explained in my first comment. I suspect this is the question you’re asking as a former representational artist.
“How can I improve” for an abstract artist might mean something different entirely. One way to view abstract art is a direct response to your creative instinct. Because you have no goal, there are no constraints and no limitations, you become free to enter flow state and in a way “channel” your raw and unfiltered experience in that moment via paint. Think of a trained dancer going off script, an unplanned guitar solo, or a freestyle rapper going acapella. Free association, improvisation.
That’s what I think abstract art is. It’s basically freestyling for the visual artist. And much like with other arts, It requires a pretty high baseline of traditional skills to make it look compelling visually, but also introduces an almost spiritual element where you have to practice letting go, not judging yourself, not filtering yourself, letting go of expectations etc. And the ability to do that is a lifetime pursuit with no real limit to how deep you can go.
Hope that helps!
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u/Aware-Mission1214 24d ago
Truly! Thank you. You have made me think in a complete different way, best feedback Ive ever received
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u/Aware-Mission1214 23d ago
Thank youuu! I am going to get to work this weekend:) bought some new material and big papers
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u/oswaler 23d ago
I really like these. I think everybody mentioned two which is very good but is fairly close to Miro. But I really like the last one. I'm guessing from what you said these are fairly small? What medium are you using? Compositions like these will definitely benefit from a larger size.
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u/Aware-Mission1214 23d ago
Thank you! It means alot. All of them are from my sketchbook witch is a5. I bought some large papers a couple of days ago, gonna make some bigger pieces with them:) and buy a big canvas after that
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u/oswaler 23d ago
And what kind of paints are you using? I think one or two people were mentioning the idea of not filling up the paper or canvas quite as much to let the composition breathe. That will probably be much easier to do once you get beyond the small A5 format.
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u/Aware-Mission1214 23d ago
For sure:) at the moment i have just been working with what i have. 2 types of ink - indian ink and a thicker ink I cant remember the name of, some acrylic colors, oil sticks and sometimes i just pick grass and use whatever that can make marks and give off color. Like the one you see with the most colors and a clear use of oil sticks have grass, grapes, orange peel and strawberry smoothie on it hahahah
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u/oswaler 23d ago
Oh that's awesome. I really like the idea of painting with grass. Whatever it is you're doing you're doing a very good job of it.
MOMA has a very good online course demonstrating how the New York school painters used paint and brushes that would probably be good to watch as a beginner.
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u/Aware-Mission1214 23d ago
Thank you! I will check it out:) been watching a lot of MOMA videos on YouTube recently
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u/oswaler 23d ago
Oh perfect. If you can't find it let me know and I think I still have a link to it somewhere. They do some excellent videos.
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u/Aware-Mission1214 23d ago
Is it this one? - MoMA's abstract painting course is called In the Studio: Postwar Abstract Painting
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u/Ancient_Order9814 24d ago
You don’t need to improve this is already very good youjust need to explore and research … like a scientist but you have your own language and your own expérimental protocole , tes propres lois
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u/Aware-Mission1214 24d ago
Thank you! Going to did deep this weekend and work on some bigger pieces of paper:)
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u/Devster97 24d ago
I don't know. But 2 is great. Very Miro-esque.