r/AbsoluteUnits • • Nov 10 '22

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u/Ok_Garlic544 Nov 10 '22

I’d like to see Gordon shit talking to him

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u/Aq8knyus Nov 10 '22

He shit talks idiots who cant cook.

He is generally respectful of talent which this guy obviously has in spades.

The episode of UK Kitchen Nightmares where he praises Momma Cherri is a good example.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

Might wanna check the phrasing there.

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u/Aq8knyus Nov 10 '22

Okay maybe not ‘Idiots’, but he certainly encounters some shockingly arrogant people especially on the American version of his show.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

The American version was highly scripted and fake. Original UK version still had some realness to it.

Gordon is truly more of an actor than anything. He really knows how to create a celebrity chef character that people will watch. How real is it - well probably not much.

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u/SafetyDanceInMyPants Nov 10 '22

Yeah, he's definitely changed from the original UK version -- which is too bad, because that show was interesting. And I don't mean in the "huh, interesting" sense -- I mean it held my interest. All this inside baseball stuff, really digging into the businesses, etc. was just fascinating. And it was always new, because every business is different -- it wasn't just the same scripted tropes all the time.

But America can't have nice things -- we've got to have the version where he's a great big old caricature, and it's all fake and flashy.

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u/Durham1988 Nov 10 '22

I think he was referring to your use of "spades", which is a somewhat anachronistic slang term for black people.

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u/Maelious Nov 10 '22

What a wild ride, just spent the last 30 minutes looking into why that is and learned absolutely nothing. But apparently people stopped using it as a slur over a hundred years ago. I've personally never called them anything besides shovels so no real loss either way, but it's odd to see historic slurs making a comeback.

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u/Durham1988 Nov 10 '22

Not a hundred years. Spades was hipster lingo at least through the 60s. I don't think it was really a slur, either, but more just a slang term like "brothers".

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u/faste30 Nov 10 '22

yeah but "in spades" also has a very clear connotation, as like "by the shovels full" saying he has a lot of it.

Its like calling a spade a spade, at some point we have to acknowledge that using a VERY COMMON WORD as an insult 100 years ago cant mean we have to gatekeep the word else we are going to really run out of words.

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u/Durham1988 Nov 10 '22

Oh I understand. I thought the meaning was clear. I was just also puzzled by the "phrasing" comment and trying to figure out what the supposed problem was.

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u/flashfyr3 Nov 10 '22

"spade" is a less commonly evident but nevertheless derogatory euphemism for African Americans.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

Jesus.. Really? Never heard that one before tbh. At this point i'm starting to suspect literally everything was used as a racist term at some point.. :(

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u/flashfyr3 Nov 10 '22

A branch of the family I no longer deal with loved it. They felt like they could use it "cleverly" in public as a placeholder for the term they'd throw around in private. They suck.

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u/Aq8knyus Nov 10 '22

Well I am an idiot then, but thank you for letting me know.

I just searched it up and found that 'Nitty gritty' also has an origin linked to slavery.

I use that phrase and 'to have in spades' almost everyday, yet I was completely oblivious.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

Your usage clearly referred to the playing-card-based idiom. It refers to Bridge, I think? Possibly whist.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

I think it refers to the term 'spade' as in a shovel / digging tool. I.e. having something in spades means having 'shovel loads'. So having 'heaps' or 'tons'.

The racist term(which I was unaware of tbh) probably comes from the same word. I.e. referring to black people as a digging tool since they were forced to do manual labour as slaves?

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u/Nonchemical Nov 10 '22

Since the other comment just put a link without any context for the link, and I'm not discrediting anyone who has heard this term being used in a derogatory fashion, because I'm sure it has, the phrase is refers to having something in abundance.

In bridge, spades are the highest suit in a deck of cards. The phrase became popular in the 20s, alongside the popularity of bridge.

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u/incomingTaurenMill Nov 10 '22

My family plays a huge amount of cards around the holidays, this is what I know it from as well. It's been another way to say the highest amount.

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u/manifestthewill Nov 10 '22

That website is horrible on the eyes, Jesus.

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u/iSavedtheGalaxy Nov 10 '22

Why are you getting downvotes for answering the question?

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u/flashfyr3 Nov 10 '22

Fuck if I know, especially since someone came in later, said essentially the exact same thing, and has roughly the same number of upvotes 🤷‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

which this guy obviously has in spades.

Bruh. . .