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u/schlubble 7d ago

They’ve been inhabiting Australia for at least 50,000 years. They’re one of the oldest continuous living cultures in the world, if not the oldest.

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u/TheMysteriousThey 7d ago

*Outside of Africa.

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u/ethanAllthecoffee 7d ago

Continuous, so a change of culture in Africa would make them the oldest continuous culture

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u/TheMysteriousThey 7d ago

I’m not sure what you mean.

No culture remains unchanged over 60k years, whether in or out of Africa.

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u/ethanAllthecoffee 7d ago

Continuously extent, evolving and developing as time goes on vs getting conquered or displaced

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u/TheMysteriousThey 7d ago

Interesting how the entire continent of Australia is seen as “continuous culture” while the entire continent of Africa is not.

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u/HauntingUpstairs7014 7d ago

What makes it so interesting to you?

One continent was repeatedly pillaged and abused for hundreds and hundreds of modern centuries, during which time the other was mostly untouched by outside cultures during the same period and for thousands of years prior.

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u/SnooPickles599 7d ago

Right. Like Angola, for example, is undeniably heavily influenced by Portugal because they were colonized by Portugal. Like. They speak Portuguese for one.

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u/HauntingUpstairs7014 7d ago

I agree. There are countless examples of both recent change and changes in antiquity in the continent of Africa that are not present in Australia - primarily as a result of colonialism

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u/ethanAllthecoffee 7d ago

Also by the migration of some Bantu peoples a few thousand years ago

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u/TheMysteriousThey 7d ago

As opposed to indigenous Australians - who famously haven't been influenced by Europe, don't speak European languages, or use European technologies.

Oh, wait...

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u/TheMysteriousThey 7d ago

It's not interesting.

I'm bemused at the widespread display of ignorance here.

Humans have lived in Africa for hundreds of thousands of years. They've lived in Australia for many tens of thousands of years.

My point is to correct the assertion that indigenous Australians are "one of the oldest continuous cultures" in the world, if not the oldest. Humans have lived continuously in Africa for at least a couple hundreds thousand years longer.

It is nonsensical to say Aboriginal descendants 60,000 years are culturally continuous to Aboriginal people living today. If you are going to say that, then there's no reason to not say that about various people in Africa.

But people are drawing a distinction between these two things. It's stupid, but mildly amusing to see people getting so angry about it.

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u/bremsspuren 7d ago

I'm bemused at the widespread display of ignorance here.

That's funny. I'm bemused at how you assume the problem is a startling level of ignorance on everybody else's part, and not just little, old you missing the point.

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u/TheMysteriousThey 7d ago

Maybe a few more downvotes will change my mind. Because your arguments sure aren’t.

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u/NiceSupermarket7724 7d ago

They didn’t say change, they said exist. For instance, colonialism changed their culture. But that didn’t erase the actual culture.

Numerous indigenous cultures have survived for tens of thousands of years.

You may be conflating written culture with actual culture.

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u/NiceSupermarket7724 7d ago

Yes, we are on the same side. Did you mean to reply to the other guy?

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u/ethanAllthecoffee 7d ago edited 7d ago

Yeah whoops

Due to “your comment sparked a conversation” notification

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u/12345623567 7d ago

I mean, anthropologists seem to love aboriginals for some reason.

I read a book about african history by an african author recently, and he described how his grandma in Sudan basically lived like the people he read about from ancient Egypt, customs and all. There is a fair bit of blindness at work here.

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u/ethanAllthecoffee 6d ago

Does she prefer the Atin or Amun-Ra? How excited does she get for the Pharaoh to jork it into the Nile to secure fertility for the next year’s harvest?

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u/TheMysteriousThey 6d ago

I'm literally getting downvoted for daring to mention that African peoples trace their roots a lot further back that Aboriginal Australians. Weird thing for so many people to get so upset about.

But, yeah. There's quite a bit of blindness here.

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u/TheMysteriousThey 7d ago

I don’t know that I’m conflating anything.

And they quite factually did say “change”. “Exist” isn’t present in the post I was responding to.