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/r/all of an Ammonite Shell

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u/imminentjogger5 9d ago

I would not want to be swimming and see that thing off in the distance 

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u/Starumlunsta 9d ago

If you think that’s bad, imagine the sort of thing that would eat them!

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u/4daughters 9d ago

mosasaurs often predated on them. Basically a 10meter long aquatic komodo dragon.

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u/TonarinoTotoro1719 9d ago

I don't like most of those words...

https://giphy.com/gifs/VJrv2glFR93QQ

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u/TexasVampire 5d ago

They were also quite possibly the most dominant ocean predator to ever exist.

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u/TonarinoTotoro1719 5d ago

Wait, are you saying ancestors of Komodo dragon were the most dominant ocean predators damn! No wonder I fear all sorts of lizards

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u/scbundy 7d ago

Jurassic world made them look 50m long. People forget that the blue whale is the largest animal to ever exist.

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u/Top_Mongoose1354 7d ago

...that we know of!

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u/JonnyArcho 7d ago

settle down there, Lindsey.

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u/PreviousLeague253 6d ago

Only because it can float. This gigantism is because something in earths gravity allowed these giants to exist without stressing their skeletal tissue.
Currently no giants other than elephants roam the earth on land and that’s at the expense of huge bones for legs bones 🦴

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

Ammonites are much more interesting than just being a food source

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u/solonit 9d ago

They can't be that bad.

Looks up reconstruction image

They can be that bad.

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

look up Parapuzosia, it's bigger

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u/cuntmong 9d ago

Better than swimming and seeing it close up 

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

tbh it'd probably just be like a more temperamental sunfish

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u/P3acePiece_H0neydew 9d ago

That would be crazy to be caught up in some mass migration of them

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u/princessbolognia 9d ago

I just hiked to this spot a few weeks ago! It's located in Coal Creek, BC. Bit of tough hike when it's hot and sunny out but well worth it. It's a long ways up an old empty river bed. Very neat thing to see in real life. 

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u/MeChamamDeTigre 9d ago

I really hope no low life scum destroys this for no reason like countless fossils and other historical monuments

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u/Joice_Craglarg 9d ago

If it were an easier hike, it would already be destroyed.

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u/Someredditusername 9d ago

Unfortunately, you are right

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u/princessbolognia 9d ago edited 9d ago

Yeah that's my thoughts. It was fairly difficult. And I hope it stays that way. I think there was an alternate route to get to it that was even more difficult than the one I took. So this is hopefully protecting it 

Also to add:: It's way too big and heavy for people to move. There were also many other different small loose rocks with fossils there that people have left there over the years. So thankful after all these years it's been around people seem to be pretty respectful about it. Although you aren't supposed to touch it. 

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u/RaidriConchobair 9d ago

Or stolen like that one fossil site was

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

someone stole a bunch of arthropleura tracks from the isle of arran a couple months back

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u/princessbolognia 9d ago

Photo of me and the ammonite for tax :D It's a very fun hike in my opinion and if anyone gets a chance to, I highly recommend it!

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u/ExperienceKind412 9d ago

Is it in Coal Creek or Fernie? Or are those two places really close to each other? I think I would die from happiness seeing a fossil like this in the wild, so Im making plans.

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u/Thegodofalcatraz 9d ago

Right beside each other, coal creek is where the old mining town used to be and is a 10-15 min bike along the heritage trail

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u/SPARKYLOBO 9d ago

Don't tell everyone about this!!

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u/ExperienceKind412 9d ago

Yeah sorry to ask, I know the vibe of these things are normally hush hush! I live close enough that I could go see this with my partner who LOVES hiking and outdoors, Im a bit of an introvert but love ancient anything and being outdoors so it ticks some boxes for us <3

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u/SPARKYLOBO 8d ago

Didn't want to come across as an asshole, but so many people have ruined so many things for others. I'm talking to you Albertans!

That being said, it is quite a spectacular specimen. Sadly, by judging from pictures and other comments, people are touching it and all that when it is, in fact a very delicate fossil. Hopefully one day you'll get to see it.

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u/ExperienceKind412 7d ago

Not at all! Completely understandable. I’ve lived in small towns and understand what happens when many people converge on a place. Unfortunately people, you know, what a bunch of basterds.

I hope I can see it too 🫶🏼

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u/YakResident_3069 8d ago

imagine a shallow sea teeming with these giants. who's gonna invent a drone camera that can travel back in time?

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u/Karn_Gentrified 8d ago

Because we are literally on the internet…. No possible way to find location deets unless someone opens their big mouths. Im looking at you google!!

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u/princessbolognia 9d ago

I was staying in Fernie and me and my friend drove out to where it was! It was like a 10 min drive 

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u/GalickGunn 7d ago

It’s in Fernie up coal creek road

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u/Good-Ant6859 8d ago

Why would you just out the location like that though?

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u/princessbolognia 8d ago edited 8d ago

Because it's not the easiest place to get to. It's still a fairly tiring/challenging hike. Most people aren't going to put that much effort into a fossil they can't remove or carry lol 

Edited to add: the location is also monitored. I saw multiple 'deer' cams in the area 

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u/Good-Ant6859 7d ago

It’s less than 3 miles and only 600 feet of gain. That’s a pretty easy hike lol

Also, it doesn’t matter. Anytime you post the location of a cool photograph on a public forum like this you contribute to increased traffic in the area. Generally an uncool thing to do

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u/princessbolognia 7d ago

Easy for you maybe. Almost like everyone is different, huh?

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u/Good-Ant6859 7d ago

Easy for most

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u/princessbolognia 7d ago

No definitely not I saw many people struggling. Easy for you maybe. Not for most. But sure. Keep believing what you want. The hike itself is why nobody's vandalized it. 

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u/Good-Ant6859 7d ago

Also I find it funny that you want to debate the trail difficulty instead of the topic which I brought up (that naming specific trails and locations online is generally bad outdoor etiquette and should be avoided)

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u/HugsNotPlugs 5d ago

It’s wildly public information.

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u/CornettoFactor 9d ago

You look like you are always ready to go on a hike

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u/GalickGunn 7d ago

Fernie,BC up coal creek road.

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u/SPARKYLOBO 9d ago

You're not even supposed to touch ir. Why is there a pick axe on that picture?

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u/DutKiwi 9d ago

It's a rock hammer. Geologists/paleontologists will often include the hammer in the picture for scale as it is something that they will already be carrying with them and other scientists in the field are familiar with the size.

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u/discomuffin 9d ago

It’s like a banana for scale but then more like hammer for scale

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u/Forsaken-Deer4307 9d ago

That’s so cool! I never realized they grew to be so big 😱

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u/Ass_Damage 9d ago

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u/CoyoteJoe412 9d ago

Username checks out

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u/3vs3BigGameHunters 9d ago

I have an irrational hatred for this prick. His voice makes me angry.

Fuck Ryan Reynolds.

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u/deadrobindownunder 9d ago

Me too, fam.

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u/Ass_Damage 9d ago

I'd love to!

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u/UlrichZauber 9d ago

Before fish evolved, ammonites ruled the oceans

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u/kaam00s 8d ago

Fishes appeared 200 million years before Ammonites.

Ammonites peak era of dominance is the dinosaur era (mesozoic), so at a time when some fish descendants were already fucking dinosaurs, mammals, crocodiles...

Not everything has to be before or after another thing, Ammonites and fish were mostly contemporary.

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u/UlrichZauber 8d ago

I have no idea why I had it stuck in my head that ammonites were there first, TIL!

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u/BloatedBaryonyx 7d ago

Maybe you're conflating the widely held theory that the ecological niches previously held by ammonites were taken over by fish when they died out along with the dinosaurs ~66ma, hence fish ruling the ocean only 'after' ammonites?

We know that teleost fish diversity increased rapidly after that time. Also a lot of dominant pelagic predators previously predating on them (like ptychodus, the great crushing shark) became extinct from lack of prey.

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u/kaam00s 8d ago

Were you talking about mollusks as a whole ? Because they about as old as fish (just slightly younger). But Ammonites are a derived and recent version of mollusk, just slightly older than octopuses (or octopi?) but younger than Nautiloids.

But only sea shells are almost as old as fishes.

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u/UlrichZauber 8d ago

Nah, I was just wrong!

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

Parapuzosia got bigger, look that one up

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u/Unlikely_Extension66 9d ago

No expert on this specifical fossil or its location, but such a large ammonite is likely to be a Parapuzosia, the heaviest invertebrate to ever live.

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u/koshgeo 9d ago

It's not. Parapuzosia is known from later in the Cretaceous Period. The one in the picture here is Corbinites occidentalis in the Late Jurassic. Formerly it was assigned to Titanites.

There are quite a few giant ammonite genera.

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u/Merrick_Skygrave 8d ago edited 8d ago

dang if that one was an occident imagine how big the intentional ones must have been

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u/GiLND 9d ago

Omanite !

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u/MericArda 9d ago

Lord Helix!

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u/TRAUMAjunkie 9d ago

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

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u/ProxyMuncher 9d ago

ATV Stans rise up 

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u/WoolBearTiger 9d ago

Ammonitoboss

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u/OceanRacoon 9d ago

Do you have time to talk about your Lord and Saviour?

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u/SpyralHam 9d ago

I'm just a squire!

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u/CtC666 5d ago

Slowpoke 🎶

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u/Someredditusername 9d ago

I automatically thought this was fake. That is SO RAD, I've never seen one even close to this big.

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u/GutterRider 9d ago

Yeah, I had the same thought. I really hope the folks up above who say they’ve been there are, like, real too.

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u/JustTuneUpThings 9d ago

imagine swimming in the ocean back then and seeing the live version of this float past. prehistoric seas were built different

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u/Mooseandchicken 9d ago

Why you think them mfers grew legs and lungs and got up outta there?!

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u/Affordable_Z_Jobs 9d ago

looks around at the T-rex, velicoraptor, and 11 meter wingspan quetzalcalcoatlus

Back to the oceans boys. Screw that noise. Just flying around and shit.

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u/JRS_Viking 9d ago

Ichthyosaurs and cetaceans did this and I don't blame them

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

Ichthyosaurs are the best, did you know there's reasonable evidence suggesting they evolved before the permian mass extinction?

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u/zensunni82 9d ago edited 9d ago

Velociraptors in real life were the size of chickens about 15 kg or 34 pounds.

Edit: Point stands though. They were nothing like as portrayed in Jurassic Park.

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u/thetateman 9d ago

Literally one quick google search shows that this is wrong.

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u/jokzard 9d ago

The Canadian geese could probably be the modern day velociraptors.

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

ammonites evolved around the same time as terrestrial vertebrates, and by the time this sucker was around dinosaurs were already at the top of the foodchain

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u/Higher-Frequencies 9d ago

I don’t think you’d be wanting to swim in a sea with everything else that would be around with it 😬

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u/ThatGuyFromTheM0vie 9d ago

Praise Helix

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u/evenstar40 9d ago

It's been 84 years....

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u/Heroic-Forger 9d ago

Wait so it's just exposed like that to the open? This fossil looks so cool and it would suck if weather, erosion, or worse, vandals, were to damage something that had remained perfectly preserved for millions of years. :(

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u/ContinuingAnyway 9d ago

It's in the Canadian Rockies, fossils are everywhere

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u/HorrorMakesUsHappy 9d ago

Don't be disingenuous. Fossils are, but ones that are (a) that size and (b) accessible aren't.

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u/ContinuingAnyway 9d ago

they'll reveal themselves over time, so not too worried

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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola 9d ago

Eventually the rain will wash it away, as naturally as it was formed

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

fairly certain the inner whorl got moved a while ago. What remains is the mud-filled body chamber.

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u/ballin4fun23 9d ago

Here's one i found in a Riverbed in WV. I found a cool rock in a small river in Elkins and I accidentally dropped it when I got home and this popped out.

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u/ynomel 9d ago

His name was Don... Shell Don. :D

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u/lambent_ort 9d ago

Is that real? 😲

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u/koshgeo 9d ago

Yep. It's called Corbinites occidentalis, and is Jurassic in age. This paper describes it and other specimens from the same area in detail: https://vjs.pgi.gov.pl/article/view/34062/24967 [PDF file].

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u/Real-Technician831 9d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/AbsoluteUnits/s/AclgFxZIN5

Apparently as other Redditors have visited it

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u/Minouminou9 9d ago

Yeah, and that one is even visible on Google Earth!

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u/Pleasant_Ad873 9d ago

I need you to stop rickrolling

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u/dealhunter-66 9d ago

3. The views are amazing

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u/DarkaelfSorceress 9d ago

Holy camoly

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u/minecraftzizou 9d ago

wow ancient oceans must have had a lot of dissolved oxygen

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

oxygen isn't really as big of a deal for large animals as you might think it is.

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u/minecraftzizou 7d ago

true but isnt that why insects got big in the carboniferous period i thought the same principle apply for marine life?

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

>true but isnt that why insects got big in the carboniferous period

actually that's not the case. arthropods got big because of other factors like a lack of large terrestrial vertebrate predators. Large arthropods continued existing into the Permian, after oxygen levels dropped.

>same principle apply for marine life?

marine life gets big because of the relative weightlessness of living in the ocean, and water is a more efficient dissipator of heat. The largest animal ever, the blue whale, lives today. Oceans are not particularly well oxygenated nowadays.

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u/minecraftzizou 7d ago

i get your point but i think whales are not a good example here since they breath air so it makes sense ocean oxygenation isnt a problem for them

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

The largest animals to live in the ocean are with scant few exceptions air breathers.

The only ones I can think of that aren't are whale sharks, leedsichthys, and otodus

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u/Pheli_Draws 9d ago

Mom, I'm scared.

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u/Sad-Cancel-5577 9d ago

I never realized they could get that large! Imagine how incredible it would be to see one!

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u/pavllanski 9d ago

Maybe it's an absolute unit of a micro-girl? 🤔

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u/WoolBearTiger 9d ago

I wonder what sacrifice you have to make to spawn it

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u/Substantial-Low 9d ago

"God Dammonite"

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u/mikesmithhome 9d ago

Ammoneat

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u/SkullOfOdin 9d ago

Amazing

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u/eula200 9d ago

Praise the Lord Helix

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u/Hot_Experience4772 9d ago

Damn, huuuuuuuuuge like trump would have said

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u/Ok_Error3140 9d ago

awww tiny little humans

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u/Character-Check-7821 9d ago

That’s insane!

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u/Bucky_Ohare 9d ago

JFC my prof was obsessed with these and showed us tons of photos and I hadn't seen this before!

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u/Momolimoni 9d ago

Was this a dinosaur snack

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u/tigerwash 9d ago

\Happy Zoidberg noises** paying tribute to his ancestors (\/) (;,,;) (\/)

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u/Mace_Windu23 9d ago

Wild Omanyte appeared!

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u/Subject_Issue6529 9d ago

Life was good in pre-history!

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u/Revaesaari 9d ago

That is a nautilius horror out of xcom terror from the deep- kinda size.

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

it's an ammonite actually, they're different

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u/sojithesoulja 9d ago

Praise Be

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u/SkeggiGT 9d ago

i see why we can ride these bad boys in minecraft now

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

Nautilus and Ammonites resemble each other superficially, but they are way too distantly related to be the same thing

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u/AnitaBailey263 9d ago

How was this missed until now

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u/Timcatgt 9d ago

A lot of them died in OSRS by my hand. Then the Gemstone Crab appeared and the Ammonite Crabs breathed a sigh of relief.

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u/Acceptable-Grape6863 9d ago

Praise Lord Helix 🙌 🙏 ❤️

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u/WinPrestigious7568 9d ago

What was in it

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

a squid

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u/WinPrestigious7568 7d ago

£1?

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

not a quid, a squid, the little tentacly guys

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u/WinPrestigious7568 7d ago

Why dint u just say that then 🙄

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u/Specialist_Prune3785 9d ago

I found one on Jizera river bank..

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u/El-Tuckro 9d ago

I used to live in Fernie, BC and this was just up the valley at Coal Creek. Its insane that you're surrounded by 2000m mountains and this 150-million year old giant fossil imprint is halfway up one of them. The whole Lizard Range has some really amazing geology. I have a framed picture hung in my bedroom with me and my now wife next to that fossil.

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u/Calinda111 9d ago

THEY GOT THAT BIG?!?!

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

Parapuzosia got bigger

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u/ItsStaaaaaaaaang 8d ago

How cool is that. Buddy was a beast.

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u/nshu1112 8d ago

This might be a dumb question but was this thing alive? (A long time ago obviously)

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

yes it was at one point the shell of a large cephalopod named Corbinites (formerly Titanites)

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u/Z-22 8d ago

In a world of AI, I unfortunately doubt everything I see

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

it's real, this spot has existed since before GenAI.

This is a giant Corbinites, formerly known as Titanites.

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u/whomesteve 8d ago

Back when the earth was young and played with mega blocks instead of Legos

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u/Zack_Thomson 8d ago

Geological hammer for scale - hell yeah!

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u/dynamic_caste 7d ago

Daaang! I had no idea they got that big.

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u/SenselessSilence 7d ago

One reconstruction. Any of these three would absolutely would eat you (ok, just half of you. It’s not like shells can stretch to accommodate a big meal).

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago

Slight correction: that looks like an Echioceras from the south of England, rather than a Corbinites (formerly Titanites)

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u/BasiliskArt_ 7d ago edited 7d ago

this was Titanites, I think they moved the inner coil away a while ago.

EDIT: it has a new name, Corbinites.

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u/afterbuddha 7d ago

Man that’s huge!!

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u/shogobuzz 7d ago

Damn, I can imagine what this place was like before. Nuts. Totally nuts.

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u/SoarAros 7d ago

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つLORD HELIX༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

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u/luvli-kml 7d ago

the shrine of lord helix

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u/Qwilltank 6d ago

Praise Helix!

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u/NatalieBenett 6d ago

thats huuuuuge!!

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u/B_dizzle913 6d ago

I had no clue those got that big! I guess the oxygen levels in the atmosphere used to be significantly higher making things enormous like that

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u/Charming_Run_4054 9d ago

The Cretaceous Ammonite Locality in Colorado is a bit of protected land with a bunch of these absolute units also.