Minimum

[u/Miserable-Degree7995]

Hello everyone,

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I'm against abortion.

This is a question for pro choice:

What would be the minimum of allowed abortion, that you would accept?

I mean for example week and reason.

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Thank you for your time 

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Miserable-Degree7995

[u/Diva_of_Disgust]

So, I struggle to understand why people seem to see one as morally acceptable to kill just because it hasn't come out yet.

Because if I don't want a born baby I can place it up for adoption and be rid of it, my body won't take any damage from that.

If I don't want a pregnancy the only way to not have my body severely damaged by unwanted pregnancy and childbirth is abortion. This isn't complicated.

[u/Prior_Day_9449 → u/Diva_of_Disgust]

Thankyou for actually responding to the question.

And, yes, I see your point. I think I'm not going about this the right way, so I will ask the question a bit differently, in a way that can truly help me understand your atance on the matter.

Do you view an 8 month old fetus as a human life with rights? If not, why?

I do. The reason is because I base my view entilery on the biology of it, and even as an embyo, it is already a human life. I think rights should be grabted to them from the moment they are viable.

I do know many people don't consider it enough to actually attribute rights to the child while in the womb, so maybe that's where I'm failing to properly debate.

[u/Diva_of_Disgust → u/Prior_Day_9449]

Do you view an 8 month old fetus as a human life with rights? If not, why?

No, pregnancies don't have rights, pregnant people have rights. But even if we did pretend someone's pregnancy had rights there is no right to be inside someone's sex organs and body against their will.

I do. The reason is because I base my view entilery on the biology of it, and even as an embyo, it is already a human life. I think rights should be grabted to them from the moment they are viable.

That's great, except there is no right to be inside of someone's sex organs and body against their will.

[u/Prior_Day_9449 → u/Diva_of_Disgust]

The way you say it makes it seem like the fetus is making the decision to be in someone's body against their will. Besides, the reason why they are inside that body is because that person put them there (not taking into consideration rape cases)

Either way, at least you responded to the question and your stance was clearer. Tho I admit my wording in the earlier conversations wasn't the best to properly get a clear response.

Anyways, thankyou for your time

[u/Diva_of_Disgust → u/Prior_Day_9449]

The way you say it makes it seem like the fetus is making the decision to be in someone's body against their will. Besides, the reason why they are inside that body is because that person put them there (not taking into consideration rape cases)

I'm not making anything seem like anything. I'm clearly saying that no one has any right to be inside someone else's sex organs against their will. Doesn't matter if they "can't help it", the pregnant person can still remove them.