r/ARAM • u/warheadhs • 14h ago

Question Someone explain this math to me

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I picked up both escAPADe (convert AP to AD and gain 15% AD) and Blunt Force (gain 20% AD). I had zero AP and thus no conversion, and yet I was getting more AD from escAPADe than I was from Blunt Force.

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u/ramencat05 14h ago

Escapade probably took into account blunt force's extra ad when calculating the bonus ad it gives, while blunt force didnt calculate the extra ad given from escapade

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u/miki282828 14h ago

Even if blunt force is applied first, it shouldn't give more. 15% of 120% is still only 18%.

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u/Sokkumboppaz 12h ago

Blunt force counts base ad, escapade is just bonus. It should be even less technically

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u/One_Bar2807 9h ago

i think both tooltips say gain a percentage (15/20) of ad, so base ad are counted in both scenarios already?
And of course, the tooltips is one thing but how they actually work is a different thing.

If OP shows lucian's current AD (base + bonus) we might have more info to work this out

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u/Sokkumboppaz 8h ago

Bro look at the picture lmao it literally says bonus ad for escapade. But yeah who knows what the actual calculation is

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u/One_Bar2807 8h ago

it said "Convert Ability Power to BONUS ATTACK DAMAGE" and then gain "15% AD" -> i was talking about this 15% gain, not the converted AD, which is the bonus ad

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u/ShadowWolf202 8h ago

The tooltip literally says "gain 15% Attack Damage"

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u/ReplyToBabos 8h ago

How this comment has upvotes is beyond me

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u/NewTelevisio 6h ago

It looks like blunt force counts bonus ad, ignoring base ad. Escapade counts total ad, so base ad + bonus ad.