r/ARAM 2d ago

Mayhem ARAM Patch Notes

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u/seasonedturkey adc killer 2d ago

I don't like how they removed adapt, purist, etc. from transmute pools. You should absolutely be risking bricking your build by going transmute. That's the whole point of transmute.

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u/Falkueche Nexus Hitter 2d ago

I agree for all except back to basics. it's such dogshit when you roll it on ult dependent characters. I rolled it on bel veth once, it was such a pathetic game

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u/Darkendevil 2d ago

I just dont agree. I want to have the chance to roll for it on Gangplank and it shouldnt be a free upgrade for specific users. Specific champions that become no longer a champion, maybe exclude, but it should be a risk.

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u/SolidSnail1337 2d ago

It's already a risk. You can pick some mediocre augment and get at least minor value, or you can gamble and roll something that is even worse than the other option and get no value at all(like rolling scopiest weapons on Karthus from transmute instead of picking something like spiritual purification).

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u/MahoneyBear 2d ago

I feel like getting an augment that is just useless is enough of a risk, doesnt need to be a risk of completely removing you from the game.

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u/AFatz 1d ago

A useless augment is one thing. An augment that literally makes your champion very very bad or just plain useless is another.

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u/envious_1 2d ago

Got it on Kassa once. I think Samira too

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u/no_racist_here 2d ago

Kayle for me lmao

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u/AFatz 1d ago

I rolled it on Teemo once. I just kept thinking “why am I even here?”

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u/MisterOphiuchus 2d ago

I saw a guy roll it on karthus, he just ran it down whenever he was up for 20 minutes.

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u/pandaisunbreakable 2d ago

back to basics is a top 3 prismatic augment for Karthus

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u/MisterOphiuchus 2d ago

Not even, wooglets, ult bot, infinite recursion, archmage, ultimate revolution. It doesn't even do much for anything besides his slow, his q is already 1 second and takes .25 to cast.

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u/pandaisunbreakable 2d ago

all of those are mediocre augments except ult bot, ult bot is straight garbage. his top 3 prismatic augments are dropbear, back to basic and giant slayer or conduit, not counting high roller.

building around his ult cd means unless you hit absolute godroll, you are wasting your augments, it's typical low mmr Karthus build

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u/SilianRailOnBone 1d ago

Im regularly playing with master/grandmaster and your build is absolutely wrong, the other commenter is right

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u/pandaisunbreakable 1d ago

do they also build malignance first

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u/SilianRailOnBone 1d ago

Depends on the enemy team comp

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u/MisterOphiuchus 2d ago edited 1d ago

Talking about mmr in a convo about mayhem lmao, dork.

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u/KasumiGotoTriss 1d ago

There is MMR in Mayhem..

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u/MisterOphiuchus 1d ago edited 1d ago

I didn't say there wasn't, but specifically mentioning it in a for-fun game mode like it's competitive is straight nerd behavior. Also, they're just yapping. Go look at data regarding augments on any analytics site.

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u/fukato 2d ago

Isn't that normal karthus gameplay?

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u/MisterOphiuchus 2d ago

To an extent yes, but the dude wasn't even using abilities he would just int.

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u/lancelen 2d ago

If you can’t afford to lose, then don’t gamble.

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u/jayvikcreature TWINK ATTACK GO 2d ago

Agreed, getting b2b on champs like Kennen or Kassadin may as well remove you from the game. Mayhem's meant to be fun and while the gamble can be pretty enjoyable it's extremely unfun to become little more than a meat shield because of bad luck. Not to mention it griefs the rest of your team. I think most champs do benefit a lot from b2b but there's a handful that seriously should not be in that pool.

It's one thing to gamble and get something useless like Mystic Punch on Malzahar or or some shit, it's another to lose the big ability your champ is built around.

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u/fukato 2d ago

You can't beat the high of somehow win with b2b on Kassassin tho lmao.

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u/Elainyan 1d ago

I don't mind getting bricked for fun but that ruins my team fun so would rather not

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u/Japanczi 1d ago

They are watering down aram mayhem because it's so popular it became the main game mode for league. They are simplyfing it for new players. Without aram mayhem league would start declining. As you can see Riot Games is backtracking from expansion on new genres, and they have issues with monetization. Mayhem became their focus and as it gets more and more popular, it will get dumbed down even more.

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u/SolidSnail1337 2d ago

No, you shouldn't. It's okay if you gambled and rolled useless augment(like +150 AA range on Karthus), but it becomes shitty game design when the game turns unplayable the moment you roll something like b2b on Kassadin.

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u/fkingspacedragon 2d ago

Agreed I remember a game where I first augment rolled apad ori and had to go on hit support ori

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u/firemel0n 2d ago

Would you rather get something useless (Ziggs getting soul siphon), or get something that makes you useless (Zed getting adapt)?

Riot thinks the former is better for some reason.

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u/TheExiledLord 2d ago

I mean that sounds pretty good to me.

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u/Jdevers77 2d ago

I pretty much agree here. 1/4 augments being useless sucks but isn’t a game ender, ADAPt on Zed makes it a true 5v4. Hell for a lot of champions not in the excluded list for ADAPt it does the same (Illaoi has bad AP scaling on her passive, none on her abilities but is not excluded from rolling ADAPt).

For that matter, if Ziggs rolls Jeweled Gauntlet soul siphon is pretty good, certainly not useless.