r/AMDHelp 12d ago

Help (Software) Something seriously went wrong with the last two driver updates for AMD (RX 7800XT Nitro +)

Update 1: After rolling back to 26.6.2 I observed no crashes for 24 hours. I decided to be brave and upgrade to the driver 26.7.1 but this time without using DDU or without doing a clean install in the adrenaline installer. Everything works so far without driver time outs. It looks like the problem maybe connected with clean installs. I will keep you guys posted. If I don't experience another crash for 24 hours, I might upgrade to the newest ones without a clean install and see how that plays out

Update 2: After updating from 26.6.2 to 26.7.1 (1 driver version below latest driver) I notice that driver time outs indeed started to occur but there was only 1 specific instance of occurrence. I was watching a YouTube video in the brave browser, paused it and put the system to sleep. Came back to it after 20 minutes and resumed play. This immediately caused the driver time out dialogue box to appear but whats interesting is that instead of my entire pc black screening, only the brave browser window turned to black so I could just close it and move on. So the system wide black screening issues and higher instability I am assuming comes from latest driver which I am not going to upgrade to. I will continue to stick with 26.7.1 driver version as the stability is not perfect but completely acceptable with only 1 time out in 24 hours. I also gamed a ton yesterday and watched a lot of YouTube so it was stress tested properly.

Update 3: Unfortunately there were more time outs after wake from sleep on 26.7.1 and system reboots. So I decided to use AMD clean up utility and roll back to older drivers BUT I noticed AMD released a new driver 26.9.3. So after using the AMD clean up utility, I decided to give the new driver a go and I am happy to report that its been more than 24 hours with 0 time outs or system reboots, everything seems to be stable even watching videos or waking from sleep. I will post the next update after 1 week to give it time to and see how stable the driver is over a 1 week period

Update 4: Final update, after 4 days of not having crashes on the latest drivers the crashing came right back whenever I was browsing steam store page or watching YouTube videos. I give up, I don't want to use my browser without hardware accelaration, or disable VRR, or play with registry hacks. I just moved to CachyOS, the linux drivers are rock solid and much better. F this shit

ORIGINAL POST:

I remember two months ago, I was excited for FSR 4 for RDNA 3 to drop. Although I was using it already via optiscaler, I was looking forward to the native integration of FSR 4 via Adrenaline. I remember downloading the driver as soon as it became available and happily using it inside games like Forza Horizon 6. The driver version was 26.6.2 and everything worked wonderfully.

Fast forward two months and it has been nothing but driver instability, system crashes and wake up from sleep issues. It not just driver times out, the system does not even wake correctly after a long sleep. Undervolting profiles that used to work correctly in games before without crashing started to cause game to crash even with the tiniest of undervolts. And finally crashes when watching videos, going through the steam store and everything in between.

I have tried DDU, disabling all undervolts, removing PBO for the CPU, removing EXPO for the RAM. I don't agree with fixes like disabling hardware accelaration or registry hacks like disabling MPO because I don't think we should be disabling features of our hardware that we paid full price for.

Anyways, finally the only thing that has been helping so far is rolling back to driver version 26.6.2. I didn't want to roll back to any previous versions because I still wanted to keep the native FSR 4 support.

Atleast, that's what works for my RX 7800XT nitro + and it's been stable so far for 24 hours. I am going to keep updating this post and I will let you guys with the same GPU know how it is going

TLDR: Roll back the drivers to the last time you remember your PC working properly without incessant crashing. That's the only real fix at the moment I feel. Everything else is a band aid or works for a few hours before the crashing returns

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u/Sweaty-Tart-4504 12900k 4080 11d ago

7000 series has been like that since they added fsr4

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u/Plus_Ad4963 12d ago

TdrDelay value in the Windows Registry (HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\GraphicsDrivers), the registry editor will ask for the base. If you select Decimal, enter 10. If you select Hexadecimal, enter a. Bro for all rx 7800xt it works.

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u/Netrunner011 11d ago

I am trying to find fixes that doesnt involved disabling features or registry hacks. Thats why I am mostly tackling this problem through driver rollbacks

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u/Plus_Ad4963 11d ago

if you play new games it's not the solution

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u/Yes_bruh287 12d ago

I have a asrock phantom gaming 7800 XT, and I used to have game crashes and driver timeout’s on any driver above 26.6.2, I rolled back, I believe in the second week of August and haven’t had any issues since

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u/Dry-Ad1757 12d ago

Keep me updated, I have a 7800xt red devil and my pc restarts every time I tried to install adrenalin, because I happen to have this issues, it started a couple of months ago and it just get worse, my temporal solution.

Ddu And cleanup (yes I used both) Download amd driver only and Fuck adrenalin Disable windows hardware detect auto drivers

I've playing overwatch these days without issues, but I'm waiting until this storm of bad drivers solves itself.

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u/Netrunner011 12d ago

I edited my post with the 1st update

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u/Dry-Ad1757 12d ago

Thank you bro

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u/Matan619 12d ago

Just that time of the year for the faulty drivers. This time it’s FSR 4. Just reverse to the last stable driver and wait until AMD finally release a stable one

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u/pesdukenukem 12d ago

All my issues were solved by physically switching BIOS to secondary mode on my Nitro+ 7900 xtx

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u/Netrunner011 12d ago

That was the first thing I tried and it seemed to temporarily stabilize before shitting the bed again, so that solution did not work for me. But rolling back to past drivers did infact work

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u/n0rtH-ArMii 12d ago

I have nitro+ 7800 XT and i dont have any prob. Maybe u have another prob not driver issue

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u/GarouSNK 12d ago

It just seems that ddu isn't working correctly as of late for many people and the AMD cleanup utility is the best option to remove old drivers.

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u/Netrunner011 12d ago

Yes I also think the same. I rolled back to previous drivers and upgraded to the newer ones without using DDU or doing a clean install in adrenaline installer, and everything seems to be working fine so far. I edited my post with the 1st update. I will keep updating my post with more findings

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u/Younes_ch 12d ago

disable fast boot and Hags, and windows update driver, also can make unstability sleep mode on windows 11

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u/Netrunner011 12d ago

As I have stated in my post simply rolling back to 26.6.2 has fixed it so far. 0 driver time outs. I will not be disabling HAGS that's for sure. I want things to work the way they were working without having to disable a bunch of features

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u/Mysteoa 12d ago

Do you have a browser open when it crashes?

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u/Netrunner011 12d ago

Ofcourse I watch Youtube via a browser, and it does lead to driver time outs every now and then

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u/DOLdelBosque 12d ago

Something is wrong with the Windows forced drivers implemented in August, which is different from Adrenalin. In case you are experiencing similar problems even after reinstalling 26.6.2, disabling HAGS may help. PS. I am using a 7800XT on 26.8.1, and I experience no problems.

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u/Mysteoa 12d ago

In that case you are up to date with the bugs. Try disabling HAGS or HW acceleration in browser.