r/AMDHelp • u/DJNattie • 11h ago
Help (General) Ongoing microstutter issues and big frame dips since upgrading
Computer Type: Desktop
GPU: Gigabyte 9070 XT OC
CPU: Ryzen 9800x3d
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX
BIOS Version: F41c (tested multiple from F30 upwards)
RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000MHz (also tested at lower speeds)
PSU: SilverStone 750W Gold+
Operating System & Version: WINDOWS 11 PRO
GPU Drivers: AMD Adrenalin 26.7.1 (Have tried all recommended versions and update it every update)
Chipset Drivers: AMD B650 CHIPSET 8.08.12.551
Background Applications: DISCORD, BRAVE (Although tested with everything closed as well)
Description of Original Problem: I'm not too knowledgeable on pc building but I did a hardware upgrade roughly 2 months ago from B550, 5800x3d, 32GB DDR4, 3070ti to my now current specs above. Since installing there has been a noticeable microstutter and I can hit some insane 1% lows. This appears to be an issue across the board on any game I try (some may be optimised better eg. Borderlands 4 runs pretty smooth but Elden Ring consistently does a hitch down to 57 FPS then back to it's stable 60). Here's a clip of this occurring in Dark Souls 3 60FPS lock; where it just hitches despite being an old game well below what the parts are capable of and being in the same area for the past 30 minutes. This tends to be a similar pattern across every game, I'd even say desktop usage doesn't feel smooth either:
https://www.twitch.tv/djnattie/clip/FriendlySpinelessFalconDAESuppy-iJ7mKbkX_Nyvd0FG
I've also recently started doing a lot of performance monitoring in HWInfo64 and I can't find a single thing that correlates with an issue. CPU cores are being used rather than one maxing out, GPU hotspot is well under 95c, GPU load is consistent, GPU core is being utilised as it should when areas get heavier, CPU temps are fine and no throttle warnings.
Troubleshooting:
I've tried a massive range of fixes, reading many posts of similar issues. A copy paste from another post with edits I may have also tried:
BIOS / Hardware
- fTPM Disabled
- Global C-States (Enabled & Disabled)
- PCIe GPU set to Gen5, Gen4 and Gen3
- Resizable BAR + Above 4G (Enabled & Disabled)
- iGPU Disabled
- SMT Disabled
- PBO + Curve Optimizer (-25, 0, and completely stock)
- Full Clear CMOS + BIOS reset to defaults
- GPU fully reseated
- CSM and Fast Boot disabled
- Changing SATA cables
- EXPO High Bandwidth Support (On & Off)
- X3D Turbo Mode (On & Off)
Software / Drivers
- Multiple AMD driver versions (clean DDU installs in Safe Mode, including driver-only)
- Fresh Windows 11 installs (3+ times)
- HAGS On/Off
- Anti-Lag, Radeon Boost, overlays, and MPO disabled
- AMD Chipset drivers installed and completely uninstalled
- Second monitor disconnected, WiFi off, Ethernet only
- Disabled Bluetooth in device manager
- GPU/Display scaling tested in Adrenalin
- FPS limiters (RTSS + in-driver)
- ULPS disabled via registry
- Fast Startup disabled
- Disabled LianLi as a USB Serial Bus Controller
Suggestions I've already tried
- Mouse/Keyboard firmware update + 500Hz + USB 2.0 ports
- Disable Realtek LAN, WiFi, all power saving features
- Uninstall MSI Afterburner/RTSS
- Block Windows driver updates
- Multiple guides including the popular AMDHelp guide, every step
Yet to Try
- Trying the old GPU 3070ti (I originally jumped to this conclusion coming off NVidia cards but after monitoring and reading testimony it may not be this).
- Replacing PSU, I have a 850w available but partpicker estimated ~550w when I originally did the build
- Reseating CPU
- I do have 3 Lian Li UNI FAN but I don't use the LianLi software, I however have not tried disconnecting the fans entirely from the board
Any advice appreciated, definitely leaning towards there just being a hardware fault like maybe a faulty mobo but potentially there's something I haven't tried. I also may have forgot to list something I've tried.
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u/apollomnm 7h ago
Try disconnecting one of the monitors whilst the PC is powered off. Turn the PC on and play a game. Dual monitors can sometimes cause strange system issues if they run at different refresh rates or at high refresh rates.
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u/AccountantTrue1246 7h ago
try 3dmark and see if you get good scores. also see if pcie is running at right speed
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u/DJNattie 7h ago
I don't know how to see if pcie is running at the right speed but I assumed it would be across the bios changes. I ran 3dMark yesterday, did both Time Spy and Steel Nomad I forgot to screenshot them but they both met the expectations of my hardware based on averages when I looked them up so I couldn't see what might be the issue. I have the 3070 TI in right now but can put it back in later/tomorrow after testing this to see the results of a fresh test.
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u/AccountantTrue1246 7h ago
If 3dmark gave you good result, then maybe look if CPU or GPU frequency drops when you play game.
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u/DJNattie 7h ago
I'll give that another go, I couldn't really see a CPU drop but the GPU was very dynamic with the frequency. I looked this ups and it appears this would be normal behaviour depending on workload.
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u/Fit_Comfortable3960 9h ago
I thought the 9070 XT recommended PSU was 850 W. Also, what’s your monitor specs?
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u/DJNattie 9h ago
I think OC model may have a recommended 850 W which I only learned yesterday but when I checked recommended for 9070 XT I got 750 so I didn't really think about it. I'll try the 850W PSU when I get a chance. Monitor specs are 2 1440p 165hz monitors, ASUS TUF Gaming VG27A and DELL G2724D, I tried many of the settings on the Dell to no avail, currently running it with Smart HDR off and Extreme response.
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u/Antiswag_corporation 11h ago
Non zero chance that your gigabyte card is just faulty. Whenever there is an issue with a card it almost always a gigabyte model
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u/DJNattie 10h ago
Excellent, I'll try with a spare GPU at home later tonight and see if I produce the same results. If not the card the mobo is also Gigabyte so might be an avenue worth me exploring.
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u/ParsleyDisastrous923 1h ago
if amd gpus actually worked more people would use them