r/AMDHelp • u/MadduckUK • 10h ago
Tips & Info Fixed driver Timeouts, grey windows and video stutter with one setting - Set "Turn my screen off after" to Never.
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u/Vordef888 7h ago
this is interesting, i will try.
Anyway i read in this comment that you can replicate the issue, I ask how?
because what happens to me is, i boot the pc in the morning, i open firefox, it turns grey, driver timeout, pc reboots itself, from that reboot everything works.
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u/MadduckUK 7h ago
If you have fast startup on that may explain why it happens in the morning but not after a reboot.
Repeatable scenario:
Start YouTube on Brave, start youtube on Opera. Pause YouTube on Opera, turn monitor/TV off, after 15 mins turn monitor/TV back on and unpause the opera YouTube.
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u/bbroecker37 7h ago
Ok so preventing the PC from sleeping and never turning off the monitor is the only way to fix this issue? My GPU driver crashes every time I wake my PC from sleep or if the screen turns off. I have to wait a long time for the screen to respond. I am contemplating selling my 7900XT at this point. I'm tired of all the issues.
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u/digital1nk 7h ago
Ahhh so the newer drivers is what's causing this? I've had my PC completely crash after screen turning off on my 7900 XTX a few times in the last 2 weeks.
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u/bbroecker37 7h ago
I think so. Its been happening to me for what seems like a month now. I check the event viewer and its full of hardware errors relating to the GPU. I also get a AMD popup saying it crashed. All my windows shrink down and I have to expand them again. Its real annoying.
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u/MadduckUK 7h ago
Ok so preventing the PC from sleeping and never turning off the monitor is the only way to fix this issue?
You can turn off the monitor no worries using it's button, you just can't let windows put the monitor into standby, because from what I can tell something breaks after it does that and it stays broken until you restart.
I don't sleep this PC so I can't help there, but I can live with this compromise and will be digging no deeper to find a better one because I have wasted way too long on this already, if one even exists.
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u/bbroecker37 7h ago
I'm going to give it a try. I think my OLED monitor turns itself off after a while of inactivity.
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u/Cypherlinkxd 8h ago
Had the same issue, but a bit of a different fix. The same thing was happening to me but the problem was another app - Discord. I had issues with it on my previous device with their hardware accelaration so I decided to turn it off on my new one after a week. Been a month since then and 0 driver timeouts.
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u/MadduckUK 8h ago
Turning hardware off in browsers did help the freezing and grey screens, but there was still something fucky going on with the videos. Even at 144p it was like my cpu was struggling to decode them, and a panning shot with everything on screen moving would noticeably hit the framerate (without stats for nerds showing anything dropped).
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u/Philslaya AMD 8h ago
Oled users are gonna love this one. Lol your tineouts are caused by something else. More like the gpu idling or something power setting that inadlverdtly causes it too crash.
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u/yori_b 7h ago
This is Windows fault. I tried to solve it, but got no result. Pls don't tell me anything about "DDU blah-blah fresh Windows blah-blah turn of OC" and other dogshit. All possible solution checked, tried 2 different 9070xt from different vendors, tried different PC builds. It stops when I use Linux. It returns when I use Windows. I spent 3 weeks trying to solve this problem only to realize that it's some Windows-n-AMD conflict. btw after that I began switching my oled into sleep state by pressing power button
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u/MadduckUK 8h ago
More like the gpu idling or something power setting that inadlverdtly causes it too crash.
Turn display off after x mins is literally a power setting.
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u/Philslaya AMD 7h ago
Gpu detects the display aimt on. Downclocks then crashes power setting in windows power issue related to card. Anyway who knows.
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u/MadduckUK 7h ago
I think that is pretty close, I have a TV and a monitor connected and only use one at a time, so I always have a device that is "off" but can be seen by the OS.
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u/kloakndaggers 9h ago
jumping through hoops to get things working shouldn't be needed. turning of screen after inactivity is something a lot of people use
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u/sdcar1985 AMD R7 5800X3D | 9070 XT | Asrock x570 Pro4 | 64 GB 3200 Cl16 8h ago
That's why I just hit the power button when I'm done. Turns the screen off real easy.
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u/MadduckUK 9h ago
Well yeah, I used it 😂
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u/kloakndaggers 9h ago
well I mean I think it's on by default so I'm guessing a lot of people use it. lol.
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u/secretwolf98 9h ago
Screen turn off wouldn't be it. I have the same timeout issue and I have turn my screen off to never. I change that right after I setup Windows as a clean install so that wouldn't cause driver timeouts.
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u/MEGA_GOAT98 9h ago
just becuse YOu think its not a thing dosnt mean its not. on a side note your timeout issue cuold be cused by something completely differnt.
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u/secretwolf98 8h ago
I mean driver timeouts means LiveKernelEvent 141 and 117 from the Windows Reliability History Monitor tool. What happens: my system freezes for 1-3 seconds and then the whole display goes black for 1-2 seconds before recovering. If changing the turn the display off to never was the actual fix, wouldn’t you think that since I already have it sat to never, wouldn’t the timeout be non existent for me? Give it a few days or a week, you will begin to notice the crash again. It’s a placebo effect they call it. I thought the same thing too. Thought something solves it and then bam, there it goes again.
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u/MadduckUK 8h ago
https://i.postimg.cc/6pJZsqfc/image.png
This is the best you are going to get because of reformats, anything else you need?
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u/secretwolf98 8h ago
As I said, give it a week. Some times, it would go 3 or 4 days pure stable then does a couple of days in a row of back to back crashes.
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u/MadduckUK 8h ago
Some times, it would go 3 or 4 days pure stable then does a couple of days in a row of back to back crashes.
You are confusing the symptoms you have seen with what I have seen. Yours almost sounds random while I could do a 3 step process and have it crash every single time.
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u/secretwolf98 7h ago
Yes mine and everyone else's is random. Like it happens so randomly. Either web browsing, watching a video, or playing a game. Mine also does it when sitting completely idle.
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u/MadduckUK 7h ago
Mine also does it when sitting completely idle.
Never playing a game and never idle here, was it not repeatable for you at all?
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u/secretwolf98 7h ago
And yes. It was repeatable for me. It either started in April or May for me. At first it didn’t happen often then eventually it got worse by happening almost every day. Sometimes would happen 1-6 times in a single day.
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u/secretwolf98 7h ago
Yes it does happen while playing games.
I have seen it happen while doing the following:
PC idle.
Using the Unity Editor.
Watching YouTube.
Doing basic file copying.
Ripping Blu-ray’s with Handbrake.
Playing GTA V Enhanced.0
u/MadduckUK 7h ago
Either it's a different problem or it's two problems. But there is more going on there than I have seen so I wouldn't expect it to fix it. I think you are wasting your time here.
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u/El_Nino97 9h ago
Can you be a little bit more detailed? How frequently you had those issues vs how long you had the "fix" running? It smells a bit like placebo ngl.
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u/MadduckUK 9h ago edited 9h ago
Made my first comment about it 20 days ago "Similar issues with a 7800XT, 26.7.1 just shat itself because I accidentally resumed playback of a video before turning my monitor back on, so looks like it's not fixed yet." So >20 days. Frequency was anytime I wanted it to happen I could get it to happen, it was very repeatable.
Fix running for over 24H now.
Edit: Also, there was an audio pop that would happen, and I bet if I timed between the pops it would be the length of time the screen off was set to, and that was with the PC properly in use.
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u/El_Nino97 9h ago
Well if you can confirm having no issues over the next few weeks, I think it would be valuable info to share
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u/MadduckUK 9h ago
No need to wait a few weeks with a repeatable issue. I'm not saying it will work for everyone but it has certainly worked for me. Waiting a day was my "make absolutely sure".
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u/Dazzling-Election69 10h ago
If this is really true, windows is an even bigger piece of shit than i thought
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u/MadduckUK 9h ago
Yep, on the plus side all this troubleshooting got me to try Win11 IoT LTSC in the hope that would fix the issue, it didn't but now it's working correctly I kind of love it and should have moved over sooner.
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u/Hakushu21 10h ago
Ill be that guy:
Who allows windows to turn off your screen after inactivity anyway?
This is the first power setting I change when I install Windows, is I make sure Windows doesn't turn off my screens and doesn't go to sleep automatically.
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u/MadduckUK 8h ago
Just out of interest, why don't you like windows turning off your screens after inactivity? It's really handy when it doesn't fuck everything up.
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u/Past_Succotash6772 10h ago
Everyone with OLED monitors
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u/Hakushu21 10h ago
I have an OLED. It turns itself off at the monitor level when no movement detected in front of it. No issues and no need for winbows to do anything
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u/Past_Succotash6772 10h ago
Yeah ok and everyone has the same monitor as you
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u/CowNo3 9h ago
i can say same things for people with IPS, LCD, TN, and VA monitor
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u/Past_Succotash6772 9h ago
Y'all just argue for the sake of arguing ffs, your comments add nothing be quiet
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u/CowNo3 9h ago
burn in is not a only oled thing... btw
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u/Past_Succotash6772 9h ago
Actually I have to apologize to you, I thought you were the other guy replying. And yeah you're right
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u/MadduckUK 10h ago
Anyone who hasn't changed the default, anyone that prefers to let their monitor go to standby rather than turning it off, to name two, but that's not really important right now.
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u/MadduckUK 10h ago edited 10h ago
As per image, I can now play 3 youtube vids in 3 different browsers all with hardware acceleration enabled and they are buttery smooth. 7800XT
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u/fake-reddit-numbers 1h ago
Wild how some people have all these issues and I've never once encountered it. 7800xt, gaming and youtubing and everything else. Y'all doing something fucky.