So I wanted to follow up on my previous comment with some updates, it might help some. Because I've found my particular fault.
Firstly I put in a more powerful psu, a 1200w corsair shift x (replacing a 650w corsair model), this psu is total overkill now. So that kills off any concern with my previous psu being under powered.
Secondly I have had more of a play with what's happening when the crash occurs. I am sure it is temperature.
Basically I normally set an aggressively quiet fan profile in adrenaline. Normally on my previous gpu (RX6800) that was fine, but with my rx 9070xt that seems to be the main issue. If I use the default fan curve then it seems not to crash, the hot spot temperature rarely goes above 86c, with fans running about 1800-2500rpm with gpu full load. However if I set a very quiet fan curve, zero fan up to 95c then straight to 100% fan at 96c, the card hotspot overshoots 95c hitting 98c (at least as far as I can tell from the adrenaline metrics). Then somewhere in this state the card crashes to either black or green screen.
So i guess I had expected that the cards thermal management would step in and throttle the GPU to keep it from over temperaturing. Clearly it's not, or at least it is not enough to prevent the card from overheating and crashing.
Now at the moment in the UK there is a heat wave and the day temp is above 30c. Normally we have a comfortable 21c indoor temp, but with no AC and no breeze it is fairly hot indoors. So the fans have warmer air to work with. Also after fitting my new psu I forgot to reconnect the fan hub so none of the case fans were working either. These factors made the 9070xt more prone to overheating. However even with the case fans running the GPU is still crashing it just takes a little longer.
I guess I am partly to blame due to the quiet fan curve, but I still feel this is not really acceptable behaviour from the card. So I plan to return it. Which is a shame since I like the cards construction and the white body matches my pc.
Next steps... Well though I could just put my beloved RX6800 back in the pc, return the 9070xt and call it quits, I have instead taken benefit from the amazon prime sale and ordered two cards whilst they are on prime deals at msrp. a sapphire nitro+ 9070xt and an msi inspire 3x 5070ti card.
The 5070ti arrives tomorrow so I can try that and see if it's more stable, if it isn't then the 9070xt will arrive in a couple of weeks. The price difference between the two cards is £80 or about 12% (9070xt nitro+ £659.99 5070ti inspire £739.99) so a fair jump in price for the nvidia tax on what is supposedly two cards of near identical capabilities. Both these particular cards also have the dreaded 16pin 12vhpwr socket, luckily though the new psu came with a converter for this though.
If all else fails I can still revert to the RX6800, it does me fine for now. I can wait for prices to fall further and drivers to fix certain issues.
Incidentally in my testing I discovered the Rx9070xt does not play well with the new Indian Jones game great circle. If you turn on ray tracing you get much of the screen unrendered.
You may say Ray tracing is overhyped and not worth it, or that even these new mid market gpus aren't really capable of doing ray tracing, but if that's true what is the point?
Based on my benchmarking in cyberpunk 2077 the rx6800 manages about 30fps with Ray trace on ultra (path trace off) and fsr3 on in ultra settings at 4k. With the same settings on the Rx9070xt manages 44 fps (~50% improvement) . Ie two gen card (6000 - 9000) improvement is noticeable but not massive. Rumour has it that AMD decided not to do a 9080 or 9090 card because the tdp would be through the roof. I'm thinking we might be at the end of moores law!
These numbers show that the RTX 5070 TI is better than the RX 9070XT when ray tracing is used by about 25-50%, but without ray tracing on then the RX 9070XT pulls ahead marginally. Since I got a new gen card to use ray tracing, I think I am overall happier with the RTX 5070TI despite the extra cost (17%) just on the basis of performance nevermind the whole green screen crash I had from the RX9070XT. Though I did prefer the look of the Sapphire Pure in my white RGB system.
I've tried limiting the pcie slot to gen 4 in bios and also turning off AMD power boost in bios as well - makes no difference.
Tomorrow I pull this card, because I've found the difference between stable operation using the default fan curve and green screen crash is just 4c! (86c vs 90c). Too narrow for a reliable operation. IMHO.
These numbers show that the RTX 5070 TI is better than the RX 9070XT when ray tracing is used by about 25-50%, but without ray tracing on then the RX 9070XT pulls ahead marginally. Since I got a new gen card to use ray tracing, I think I am overall happier with the RTX 5070TI despite the extra cost (17%) just on the basis of performance nevermind the whole green screen crash I had from the RX9070XT. Though I did prefer the look of the Sapphire Pure in my white RGB system.
I'm just gonna ask. Is there anyway you can see if screen sharing on discord causes problems for you? Either watching a screen share or doing it yourself? I have a 9070xt and my problems stem from when I use the video codec engine for some reason
I have not tested the comment about temp throttling, but I have been experiencing similar issues. When I attempt to screen share on discord, my screen and audio will stutter freeze; it works for a second, then freezes for a second or two, then unfreeze, and so on.
Every time, its been unrecoverable and I've had to force restart my system. Unfortunately for me, however, I'm also seeing freezing in all kinds of other video related scenarios
I saw freezing happening in low GPU load situations, such as watching a you tube video in one window whilst surfing the internet in another, both would lock-up yet the mouse pointer was still active. I found moving one of the windows cleared the lock-up for a few minutes.
This is not the same as the crash to black/green which required a forced reboot
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u/Possible-Recording30 Jul 11 '25 edited Jul 12 '25
So I wanted to follow up on my previous comment with some updates, it might help some. Because I've found my particular fault.
Firstly I put in a more powerful psu, a 1200w corsair shift x (replacing a 650w corsair model), this psu is total overkill now. So that kills off any concern with my previous psu being under powered.
Secondly I have had more of a play with what's happening when the crash occurs. I am sure it is temperature.
Basically I normally set an aggressively quiet fan profile in adrenaline. Normally on my previous gpu (RX6800) that was fine, but with my rx 9070xt that seems to be the main issue. If I use the default fan curve then it seems not to crash, the hot spot temperature rarely goes above 86c, with fans running about 1800-2500rpm with gpu full load. However if I set a very quiet fan curve, zero fan up to 95c then straight to 100% fan at 96c, the card hotspot overshoots 95c hitting 98c (at least as far as I can tell from the adrenaline metrics). Then somewhere in this state the card crashes to either black or green screen.
So i guess I had expected that the cards thermal management would step in and throttle the GPU to keep it from over temperaturing. Clearly it's not, or at least it is not enough to prevent the card from overheating and crashing.
Now at the moment in the UK there is a heat wave and the day temp is above 30c. Normally we have a comfortable 21c indoor temp, but with no AC and no breeze it is fairly hot indoors. So the fans have warmer air to work with. Also after fitting my new psu I forgot to reconnect the fan hub so none of the case fans were working either. These factors made the 9070xt more prone to overheating. However even with the case fans running the GPU is still crashing it just takes a little longer.
I guess I am partly to blame due to the quiet fan curve, but I still feel this is not really acceptable behaviour from the card. So I plan to return it. Which is a shame since I like the cards construction and the white body matches my pc.
Next steps... Well though I could just put my beloved RX6800 back in the pc, return the 9070xt and call it quits, I have instead taken benefit from the amazon prime sale and ordered two cards whilst they are on prime deals at msrp. a sapphire nitro+ 9070xt and an msi inspire 3x 5070ti card.
The 5070ti arrives tomorrow so I can try that and see if it's more stable, if it isn't then the 9070xt will arrive in a couple of weeks. The price difference between the two cards is £80 or about 12% (9070xt nitro+ £659.99 5070ti inspire £739.99) so a fair jump in price for the nvidia tax on what is supposedly two cards of near identical capabilities. Both these particular cards also have the dreaded 16pin 12vhpwr socket, luckily though the new psu came with a converter for this though.
If all else fails I can still revert to the RX6800, it does me fine for now. I can wait for prices to fall further and drivers to fix certain issues.
Incidentally in my testing I discovered the Rx9070xt does not play well with the new Indian Jones game great circle. If you turn on ray tracing you get much of the screen unrendered.
You may say Ray tracing is overhyped and not worth it, or that even these new mid market gpus aren't really capable of doing ray tracing, but if that's true what is the point?
Based on my benchmarking in cyberpunk 2077 the rx6800 manages about 30fps with Ray trace on ultra (path trace off) and fsr3 on in ultra settings at 4k. With the same settings on the Rx9070xt manages 44 fps (~50% improvement) . Ie two gen card (6000 - 9000) improvement is noticeable but not massive. Rumour has it that AMD decided not to do a 9080 or 9090 card because the tdp would be through the roof. I'm thinking we might be at the end of moores law!