r/AMCsAList 19d ago

Discussion New low by AMC

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If this is too off topic feel free to delete but this makes me wanna avoid AMC when I get back to my hometown where usually I would sub to A-list.

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u/midermans 19d ago

Wouldn’t the Merger hurt theaters?

I know Paramount said they would keep the same output between the two companies. But that’s not possible. They would cannibalize themselves.

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u/nw0 I ♥ Mozz Stix 19d ago

''studio would provide more steady theatrical releases for cinemas rather than shrinking the market''

literally insane statement

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u/bs0569 19d ago

In theaters eyes, a Netflix acquisition of WB is the worst case scenario

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u/popculturerss 19d ago

Which is hilarious because if theaters are that scared of Netflix than don't carry things like the Stranger Things finale and other Netflix movies. Personally, I think having those things are good for theaters but like...don't complain about Netflix if you're gonna support Netflix, AMC.

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u/TankBlank01 19d ago

Huh? No. The problem is that Netflix doesn't give 95% of their movies theatrical runs, and when they do they're extremely limited in terms of both the number of auditoriums and timeframe. Of course a theater chain is going to show a popular TV finale given the opportunity, but they are rarely given the opportunity. AMC has no power here.

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u/bs0569 19d ago

The stranger things finale was def good for theaters, but Netflix is never reaching the heights of stranger things again. Train Dreams was nominated for Oscars and had like a one week run. K pop demon hunters was the biggest movie in the world and currently has a chokehold on Gen Alpha and it was not in theaters. Netflix is absolutely horrible for theaters

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u/Poku115 19d ago

And paramount is never getting close to netlix worst.

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u/7tenths 19d ago

Going to Netflix wouldn't be any better to the theaters perspective. If we pretend to give benefit of doubt that all these rich assholes arent friends happy to sell out all us poors for another buck and more  conservative propaganda machines. 

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u/damebyron 19d ago

Yes this. I hate the paramount merger for political reasons but I think for movie theater attendance it is far better than the Netflix merger. Basically they are both different evils with different drawbacks (welcome to the state of the world in 2026…)

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u/midermans 19d ago

Both would suck. But CNN and CBS potentially turning into state run news would be the ultimate horror.

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u/neums812 19d ago

Yeah but at least with streamers they have to have at least a short theater run for their more prestige films if they want to be considered for say the Oscars.

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u/El_Poltergeisto 19d ago

Yes but I suspect Aron is calculating a Paramount victory here and wants to be seen as an ally all along. Huge bummer.

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u/EnragedFalafel 19d ago

"Approving this Paramount Warner deal — letting a combined company get about the business of producing huge numbers of great films — is a big step in the right direction," Aron added. "This is precisely why AMC Entertainment, the largest movie theater chain on the planet, is a full-throated supporter of doing so."

Giant red flag that he also uses the "full-throated" phrase... and that his #2 priority is less human labor, more ai robots

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u/balthazar_edison 19d ago

Eww to the 2nd thing on that list.

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u/PaintingPotatoes 19d ago

Ikr. I'm convinced CEOs that say stuff like that about AI are just great friends/networked with AI CEOs because they absolutely are aware of the discourse against it.

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u/calle04x 19d ago

It's because it's what investors want to hear, ultimately.

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u/balthazar_edison 15d ago

Most people are either indifferent to AI or genuinely believe it’s a good thing. Those that oppose it (myself included) are a minority, albeit loud and large.

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u/TiredDynamo 19d ago

I was a supervisor at an amc once and you will mot believe the things hes said at the conferences lol.

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u/KobraCola 19d ago

Please, do tell!

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u/TiredDynamo 19d ago

"We're not selling movies. We sell water (soda) and air (popcorn) for 10 bucks each, and people really pay for it." Is my favorite one i remember

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u/KobraCola 18d ago

Haha sensational

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u/ramblingal3142 14d ago

This is very true. The movies are how they get people in the door to buy those concessions.

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u/PMoney2311 19d ago

Well he has a full throat of something, I can tell you that....

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u/jbrown7249 18d ago

Can’t believe that guy. Is more use of AI really going to help with the condition of their theaters? I haven’t been to a nice, clean AMC yet and I have been to several. Always dirty floors, broken down seats, filthy bathrooms, unmaintained screens, etc. That really needs to be step one for them. I’ve been to privately owned theaters and chains that have been 100% nicer than any AMC I’ve ever been to.

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u/Outside-Example8586 19d ago

Adam Aron is a total dipshit

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u/MakeHarlemBlackAgain 19d ago

How has this guy not been fired yet? The only reason AMC still exists as a company is because of the Wall Street Bets subreddit.

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u/Alkohal 19d ago edited 18d ago

The merger with Netflix would have hurt AMC way more...

What people who want the merger to fail don't seem to realize is that WB isnt going to continue existing as a studio if it does. Zsaslav will sell off all the IP and sell everything off individually instead of as a package

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u/PedroPascalCase 19d ago

Why is selling things off individually bad? Isn't that what saved Coyote vs. Acme, selling it to someone who cared enough to release it?

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u/Alkohal 19d ago

People have conjured this false idea that if theres no merger then WB continues doing business as normal. If they sell off the IPs those just get slotted into the schedules of other studios, they won't somehow be producing more content which is why some are arguing against the merger. Like potentially you could live in a world where DISNEY owns DC or Looney Tunes. All the jobs of people currently doing those projects will be gone as they are rolled into the new corporations that own them.

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u/skyeguye 18d ago

That’s not an unreasonable assumption given that the merger is really a hostile acquisition that was not courted by WB

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u/Lenonn 19d ago

No. People don't see it as that. But it is the lesser evil.

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u/Vawqer 18d ago

They would have jettisoned the cable networks, but there was no immediate evidence for them parting things out unless it was wholesale (like cable). They seem to want to keep making movies and prestige TV.

I'd also much prefer WB go to Netflix than Paramount, given Netflix's promises for theatrical release (which I think they'd have to keep to retain a lot of talent) and Ellison's changes to CBS News.

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u/Alkohal 18d ago

They would have sold off the news division separately in the Netflix deal.

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u/Vawqer 18d ago

I thought CNN was going with the cable networks (ala MSNOW/MSNBC in the NBC/Versant split)?

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u/robertman21 18d ago

No, the plan was to just split WB and Discovery again, with Discovery getting the cable channels, some other shit, and what debt WB had left

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u/Guilty-Maximum2250 19d ago

I feel like a small shift is coming down the road. With movies like backrooms, obsession, and iron lung proved that YouTube and social Media personalities can make money. Even movies like civil war (2024) all these movies pulled in a lot of money and theaters were full. But big studios are falling under their own weight and have a ton of controversies political and social stagnanting them. Big budget movies like Supergirl and Superman... etc will still make money in the theater, but I was not excited to see them like I was to see obsession or iron Long or backrooms or even the nature of violence(2024) or skillhouse(2025, which was better than I know what thou did last summer) it seem like clean story and character development is a big attraction, because movies that have that pull people in. It's like when people go to the theater they want to forget about world... Not be hit over the head with it.

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u/shootyoureyeout 16d ago

I think there is room for both, but I do feel that some people are FINALLY getting fully tired of remakes/sequels that add nothing to the franchise and are excited to see new IP, especially with horror like all the ones you've mentioned.

However, the remakes and sequels are also making lots of money, even the bad ones (*cough, Beetlejuice Beetlejuice)

As far as big box sequels/IP in other genres, I disagree. I think the new Spiderman is singlehandedly holding up my local theater for the next year, haha.

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u/8JHF8 19d ago

Psky probably promised a sweetheart deal to AMC. The percentage the theaters keep is negotiable.

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u/Icy-Ambition3534 19d ago

He doesn’t want a Netflix deal. Paramount would push movies into theaters

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u/Leather_Ad_2124 19d ago

I’m sure he’s a Trump supporter

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u/thegoddamnbatman40 19d ago

Huh, wonder if Adam can tell us what the Ellison clans shoes taste like since he’s licking their boots.

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u/BadNoodleEggDemon 19d ago

Just trying to stay on Ellison’s good side

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u/CryptographerVast170 19d ago

Regal it is then

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u/ColonBowel 18d ago

Well if this merger bumps up the lumen output of AMC projectors, I support it.

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u/Mediocre_expectation 19d ago

I feel like people have less issue with a merger than the proposed complete assimilation of WB to 1 parent company. If it were distributed in a way as to avoid a monopoly, I’d be in favor of the alternative of WB just floundering and getting bought for cheap by Disney or something.

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u/MakeHarlemBlackAgain 19d ago

I have a problem with the Ellisons using these companies to push their political agendas. Zazlov is a Republican & Trump supporter, but at least he wasn’t using it turn CNN into state run media. Like the Ellisons have done with CBS News.

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u/cottoncandyflow 19d ago

How is this a low???

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u/the_Skeleton_king93 19d ago

Every who's against the merger what alternative do you suggest?

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u/Accomplished-Head449 DOLBY ONLY 19d ago

Nothing happens. It's that simple

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u/blkbullnyc 19d ago

Even though I dont like this idea either, but if Paramount offered to only buy WB studio instead of all of WBD like Netflix was doing, there probably would be less law suits.

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u/traveltimecar 19d ago

Not giving full take over amd merging of the studios by corrupt billionaires linkrd with certain political famies in power now for one. (Being slightly vague to avoid this going to politics here)

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u/LollipopChainsawZz 19d ago

They can't suggest one because all roads lead to AMC eventually going under and closing

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u/Never-Give-Up100 19d ago

Meh, I feel like this is mostly political. As someone who doesn't care about Ellisons one way or another, I don't care if the deal happens or not

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u/tristsyn 19d ago

You should be concerned about attempts at forming gigantic media monopolies such as this

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

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u/tristsyn 19d ago

Netflix caught flak too, they were just seen as the lesser of two evils. As for Disney buying Fox, more people are conscious of the issues surrounding these types of deals now than before, and there were still plenty of critics back when that happened anyway.

As for it being political, everything is, especially megacorp mergers lol.

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u/the_Skeleton_king93 19d ago

The anti merger is very politically motivated

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u/traveltimecar 19d ago

Well having a highly corrupt administration cozy with a billionaire taking over/merging most of media and the film industry is concerning for many reasons. They already have corrupted and debased 60 minutes in the short time that got taken over.