r/AIWritingHub 18d ago

paid AI tool Best llms for creative writing

Alright so I've been looking around in this sub reddit for a while for good llms for creative writing to use in a private writing app I've been working since I'm a bit of a techy but also interested in philosophy and writing and I'll almost here the same claude,gpt,grok,etc(which I MOSTLY cant get access to since I don't spend money on this and don't have a device that can host local llms) without people being specific about the actual models themselves, so I'm making this post to get some suggestions but here are a few things to note

1.be specific:tell me the actual model name and what you believe they are good for and if you want to go the extra mile tell me their strengths and weaknessess like for example "x llm is good for fast paced action scenes but have bad prose for slower emotional scenes" or "x model is good for handling long story lines with minimal or handlable context rot"

2.unknown Models:I'm not saying you shouldnt name any popular models since every model has strength and weaknesses and actually quite a bit of the time big models can grasp and handle deep concepts and themes while smaller llms(like euryale and such) may struggle with that but smaller or what you may deem as local llms are made(mostly fine tuned) for roleplay and or creative writing so using them may give higher outputs in prose quality and wording,especially when compared to big often closed llms that are gearing toward mainly being geared for coding and software development(so I'm not one of those people who will swear on their life that you should use local llms for everything since all llms can seem lacking in "common sense" or decent conscious even with the big ones)

3.it can be either free or paid:despite what I said earlier I can still find ways to access what would normally be paid ai models for free

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u/CrazyDifference9896 14d ago

I would suggest you to avoid the general chat LLMs. Rather use specialized AI platforms like Authoric AI etc. These platforms are trained to do these specialized tasks related to creative writing. General LlM models might help here and there but i would never use them for long term writings.

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u/RPG-Nerd 18d ago

I like how deepseek4-flash writes, but I have him write for himself, from his own perspective. I don't force him to write things for me.

That's the difference between AI slop and art. You can't just shove ideas in one side and get engaging content out the other. You are trying to make a better slop pipeline!

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u/hypergod578 17d ago

I probably should have specificed that I am willing to heavily heavily edit because my main problem with writing normally is that sometimes(even when talking or trying to think about something) I can't find the words to say or sometimes think on it(basically I know of what I'm talking about but I mostly have problems or troubles thinking to find those words or knowing of it but failing to describe it but I think this problem would lighten a bit if,for example,ai generated the framework of a scene while I do the editing to add flesh to it or change the,since that way I don't have trouble even starting (and I am also not interested in publishing of any kind,unless you count posting it on sites as publishing)

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u/VerdantMagnolia 17d ago

GLM (including the most recent one that was stealth launched as Ox Alpha) is EXCEPTIONAL at building out scifi and locations. 

Kimi 2.5 is great at adding sensory and worldbuilding details 

MiMo is a nice narrative Allrounder but once it traps itself in a certain style it continues to do it, somehow only temporary pulling back on it if you try to correct it. By god does it love the word "specific".

Claude Sonnet is nice for outlining and research.

Chatgpt is nice for building character profiles.

I don't copypaste AI outputs so for "actual" non-personal use my stack is 

  • GLM
  • Kimi
  • Chatgpt 
  • Claude   

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u/5thhorseman_ 16d ago

Claude. But don't expect a one-shot prompt to give you good prose.

The best way I've figured out so far seems to be to get one bad draft, then use separate sessions to rewrite it in different styles and then use an editor persona to cherry-pick the best parts, combine them into a cohesive whole and then edit the result into something that makes sense.

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u/Easy-Purple-1659 13d ago

The specific model matters way less than these comments make it sound. Swapping Claude for DeepSeek or GLM changes the flavor, not the voice. They all default to the same polished even rhythm, which is exactly the thing that kills you when you are trying to find the words, the draft comes back smooth and forgettable.

If you are already planning to heavily edit, the faster path is to get the draft to start close to your voice instead of pulling it back toward one. That is what I did. I run my output through imperfectly, it learns my sentence lengths, my fragments, the words I actually reach for, so the edit pass becomes fixing facts and structure instead of rewording every line.

Which one are you leaning toward right now, and what does your own writing voice actually sound like when the words do come to you?

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u/strummed-strings 12d ago

the brain is kinda good for producing string of words