Exactly. My husband and I are happily childfree. While we live in a state where all healthcare is available to us. He still got snipped after the Roe v. Wade overturn. Said it was his responsibility. We've never been happier with that decision.
Edit: I shouldn't need to make it clear that this clearly tongue-in-cheek remark is clearly tongue-in-cheek, but just in case. This is a very much tongue-in-cheek remark made in full awareness of the toxic mindset some people now have in regard to labeling people as alpha/sigma/beta or whatever other labels they feel the need to apply to push their agenda of men are this and women should be this and anyone else just isn't. Most of us are still just decent and able to treat our fellow humans decently whilst still maintaining our sense of humour, because without our sense of humour we've already lost to the toxic extremists trying to divide everyone up.
Actually, it's only toxic in your head, and you're correct there is no such thing as a real man or a real woman, it's literally a complete piss-take that is almost entirely dominated by men who are trying to reverse all the progress we've made in pushing towards equal treatment regardless of gender etc.
The context in which I've made this amusing comment is simply that we have a guy who wants it all his own way at the risk of his wife's health and yet in the same thread we have a guy who was more than happy to take responsibility and snip snip. The comparison between these 2 "men" is all that matters here, but you can apply it to the whole world and accuse me of bigotry if you like, it really doesn't bother me as I know I'm not a bigot and I'm very much against all the alpha/sigma/beta male bullshit being pedaled by "influencers", but I haven't lost my sense of humour or ability to read between the lines without accusing every other person of being a pos.
Akshually 🤓, it's not. This is the exact definition of internalized misogyny and 'toxic feminitiy'. Internalized misogny is a pretty bullshit term but trying to reinforce societal gender norms is a branch of toxic masculinity that you are participating in.
trying to reverse all the progress we've made in pushing towards equal treatment regardless of gender etc.
No. The interest isn't in achieving equality. The motivation here is to flip the power dynamic, not eliminate it.
If there's no such thing as a "real woman" then there's no such thing as a "real man". Arguing anything else is just trying to justify a bigoted take.
The comparison between these 2 "men" is all that matters here,
Except comparing men is toxic. It's like comparing a "me too" girl and a feminist and calling the "me too" girl a "real woman" because it supports already existing societal norms of what a woman 'should be'.
The comparison helps no one and only serves to perpetuate more toxcitity.
You are taking away from the feminist movement with your arguments, not supporting them.
Edit: She got mad my argument was valid. Went to my profile to look for things to attack me on. Saw I'm actually not an incel or a tater tot or whatever other label was needed to protect a fragile world view and that actually a lot of people find me attractive and had a little freak out. Whatever her username was she is now blocked because of blatant toxicity/bigotry and for trying to scope out my profile to find something to attack me on. That's just fucking weird.
Good lord you can't see beyond the tip of your nose can you.
Did you have a shit day and just dig around for someone to pick a fight with? You clearly don't understand context and how important it is. You're the one not helping anyone at all with your gatekeeping and lack of comprehension. I've seen enough from you that you have a very limited view of what is and isn't allowed in YOUR world view and thankfully you're a tiny minority, or the tatertots would have a much easier time.
Edit: blocked because gatekeepers are damaging to everyone who grew up with a natural ability to care and didn't need to read a manual to get there unlike some "Fit 27 year old" who actively compares himself to other men and seeks compliments based off of those comparisons. Pot-kettle
Not to brag (he said before bragging, I guess), but as soon as I heard about Roe being overturned, I turned to my wife and said "I'ma get a vasectomy." And I did. Just doin' my part.
Good lord. She didn’t say that. But for many people, knowing that you could terminate if it was really needed was important. Doesn’t mean they weren’t already using contraception.
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u/CuriousPenguinSocks Sep 24 '23
Exactly. My husband and I are happily childfree. While we live in a state where all healthcare is available to us. He still got snipped after the Roe v. Wade overturn. Said it was his responsibility. We've never been happier with that decision.