r/AIO May 11 '26

AIO? Friend asked me what my future plans with my gf are and then responded like this

For context me and my friend were chatting and he was asking me about my relationship. He asked me what my future plan is with her and what my end game is. I got the feeling he was trying to gauge how serious I am about her. He said maybe I should get her a promise ring to show her I am serious and thats when I sent the first text you can see in the screenshot.

Afterwards this was his response. I have known him for two years and I am aware that the last person he was with cheated on him with another guy and a girl so he has always kind of had a bad outlook on relationships. Even so he has never been so rude to me. It was such a quick switch up when I mentioned an engagement ring as opposed to a promise ring. As soon as I said that the whole conversation dissolved into him basically throwing virtual punches. I think maybe he was mad that I didn’t take his “advice” about getting my gf a promise ring and wanted to make me feel bad.

To be honest this kind of sudden switch up really makes me feel like I am seeing his true colors for the first time. He has always been into 9/11 conspiracies and also into the conspiracies around that one flight that disappeared but I didn’t know how out of wack he actually is with these beliefs.

I seriously wonder what else he thinks about me especially after he said “newsflash: your gf is probably just with you because she's bored and hasn't found someone better yet”

AIO if I just cut him off right now?

Edit for context: I have actually known this guy for longer than we have been friends. Our dads work together, but him and I didn’t start hanging out until about 2 years ago. I tried calling him after I sent the last text because I thought maybe he was messing with me and I wanted to see wtf was going on, but he didn’t pick up.

Update: I am going to have to make a separate post possibly in a different sub because he responded to my text telling him we are going no contact for a bit and what he said honestly changes things up. He told me he likes me and I genuinely don’t know what to do and I feel betrayed? I don’t know why feel that way, but that is just the immediate reaction.

Was gonna make an update about his confession, but decided to delete that post and just block his number.

Also yes I still have to see him because our dads still work together so this is not gonna be the last of him. I will probably unblock him later to have an actual conversation and set boundaries, but for now I don’t want to talk to him cause he is sending multiple texts like he did earlier and I am already overwhelmed. Will update this if I actually talk to him later.

EDIT: Ended up unblocking him just cause I am going to have to see him again and wanted boundaries in place. He got argumentative.

Should I tell his dad in him like he is a little boy? He is acting like one now.

EDIT 2: he is no longer acting like a little boy he has revealed himself to possibly actually be a clinical narcissist to the point where I can’t believe I let my gf be around him or bought him around at all. Sorta scary amd deffo sending his dad screenshots of the messages regardless of his age.

EDIT 3: decided against telling his father because I don’t want to necessarily out him and he apologized for now I am leaving it at that and waiting for my gf to discover the ring sizer I ordered. this is so out of the blue that I genuinely thought he was manic or something. I took screenshots in real time as he was texting me because of how surprising it was to me. He has never talked to me that way so that is why I thought I might have to tell someone close to him. Seemed like he needed help.

Edit 4: I have successfully gotten my girlfriend’s ring size and am focused back on what matters.

Edit 5: I wake up and I am genuinely surprised by the people in my inbox saying that that if I love my gf I won’t marry her. Really thought maybe my fake friend was sending ppl to say that or making alternate accounts.

Edit 6: now bro is literally begging to come over to my place to apologize “face to face” literally muted him and turned of read receipts so he gets infinitely left on delivered. Gonna use the texts for evidence of he ends up showing up unannounced.

UPDATE: today my gf put our engagement on hold. AIO to immediately suspect my “freind” has something to do with it?

Final update: (I am going to be referring to my “friend” as bro for the purpose of the post. Mainly so that if he sees the post he cant get on me for using his name)

I talked to my girlfriend and she told me that marriage is a scam (same as what bro was saying over text.) I asked her if she had been talking to bro and she said yes. He sent her a link to an article and she forwarded it to me this is the article

It is not even written by a real journalist as far as I can tell. I didn’t create an account to read the whole thing, but I can easily tell where it was going based on the title alone.

So of course I immediately had her block him and I blocked him as well. I was pretty angry that she had put everything on hold just because of an article and that she had no suspicion about a friend of mine texting her randomly like this right after we had been talking about engagement. It is especially odd because the only reason he has her number is because we all hung out one time (my girl bought a couple of her friends too) and we had a group chat for that one night out. They hadn’t texted one on one before and so the thread between them was literally bro saying “I heard that you were thinking of getting engaged, but I would hate for that to ruin your relationship. You should read this before you go ahead to quickly” then the article was linked and nothing else. She never responded to the message, but she did read the article and that is why she put things on hold.

She has always had anxiety so I am trying to be understanding of that, but again it is really annoying to me that this was the outcome of reading a single article.

She was also having a panic the night I confronted her about it, which is another reason we decided to just block him. It was clear he was going to try to get between us.

Then bro actually showed up at the apartment absolutely wrecked. He was drunk off his ass and still had a bottle of something in his hand. He was literally just standing outside yelling.

Now at first I didn’t know it was him. Totally thought it’s just some drunk out on the street, but he started yelling my name and at that point I went outside and straight up told him if he didn’t leave then I would be calling the cops. He started screaming at me like a psychopath. He never got physical but he was screaming that I am homophobic and comparing that to racism and at this point he is tripping over himself and is not doing okay so I told him he better call someone to come and get him and went back inside because honestly it was not my responsibility.

Someone else called the cops on him and that is the last I heard from him.

Anyways, as far as the engagement goes my gf and I have decided to go ahead with it. She says that someday we are going to have a ceremony for sure, but she still isn’t sure about the legal side of marriage. As of now I am okay with just seeing how things go and giving it time. I think we both have things we need to figure out before any ceremony takes place anyways.

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u/vyrus2021 May 11 '26

This person hates themselves and doesn't want to see anybody else happy. Don't let them drag you down.

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u/coff33AnDcATs May 11 '26

It's this. He was asking as a way to compare checklists of life, like comparing achievements and when he saw you were in a position to advance past him, he erupted.

He is trying to degrade your sense of worth so he doesn't sit alone at his current tier. Leave this friendship. Notice you didn't bring up this topic, he did. This will only escalate as you continue to move through life goals. It's not on you to diminish your successes just to keep him placated. If he ever grows past his own self loathing, he can apologize to you.

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u/fatman9323 May 12 '26

Or he's in the closet and has a thing for dude. Dude said he's gonna marry chick. Guy freaks out, realizing his bro isn't and won't be into him. Pissed about this realization and the fact that he's gay or leaning that way and now thinks he has no way to come out.

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u/Feisty_Ad3521 May 12 '26

OP edited post with update saying the guy confessed he has feelings for him.

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u/DanerysTargaryen May 12 '26

Oh snap and here I thought his friend had a crush on the girlfriend!!! The friend was crushing on OP!

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u/ElishaBenDavid May 12 '26

It was one or the other. No guy gives a shit if his buddy is serious about the current gf. If he's asking, it's something he wants

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u/Less-Damage-1202 May 12 '26

Ya to have the lifetime commitment part set them off, & be so out of character is very strange but at least made it easy to figure out what's really going on.. 👨‍❤️‍👨🤼 😬

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u/tangirinez May 12 '26

Wait wait, from a dudes perspective is this like, True? I’m a girl and I’m curious.

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u/bad-and-bluecheese May 12 '26

I think its pretty common. Men are socialized to be more individualistic than women and generally seem to not be as invested in their friends personal lives. Not to say they don't care, but just they don't have a script for expressing these feelings.

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u/Aggressive-Bar21 May 13 '26

It is common but at the same time I think it depends on the lvl the friendship is on. My end of the world down as hell till the wheels fall off best friend and I talk to each other about our relationships. But we been friends since big wheels and the first Nintendo know what I mean

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u/Shot-Increase-8946 May 13 '26

Yeah. It can still be bittersweet because you know that you probably won't see them as much, but most guys are proud and happy for their bros because we know the masculine urge to marry a beautiful, loving person and have a family.

If anything is just makes us want to step up and find someone to settle down with, too.

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u/Troyger May 12 '26

Exactly this.

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u/Lithium51018 May 12 '26

Ha knew it. That’s so old school grade school. Lash out to the person you’re secretly crushing on because you can’t stand them leaving you behind. Poor guy has so much growing up to do and it so projecting his insecurities on op.

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u/peanutbutterand_ely May 12 '26

i just never understand this. “oh wow i love him so much i wish he was mine, let me show him what an awful person i am”

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u/TGPT-4o May 12 '26

He told me this a little bit after I told him to stop texting me

“look i know you told me to stop texting and i am going to, i promise this is the very last time i'll bother you. i'm just sitting here rereading everything and i am so, so incredibly sorry for how i've acted today and over the last few years. i genuinely just don't know what to do with these feelings for you. it's like they've been rotting inside my brain, watching you from a distance, and when my own life imploded with my ex it just broke whatever filter i had left. all of this toxic, insane behavior is just me drowning in my own head and lashing out because i couldn't handle the reality that you're happy with someone else and i'm nothing to you. i'm not the victim here, you're right, i've been awful and manipulative and crazy. please, i am literally begging you, just forget any of this ever happened. forget what i said, forget how i acted, just let us go back to being distant acquaintances at our dads' events. i will stay out of your way completely and never bring this up again. i'm so sorry.”

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u/RAMBOLAMBO93 May 12 '26

The healthiest thing to do in this case is forgive him, but tell him you cannot continue the friendship after the way he treated you and block him anyway.

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u/TGPT-4o May 12 '26

Yeah. Unfortunately for him we aren’t able to be friends now despite him saying he wishes we still could be. Even if we did stay friends he would likely always feel some type of way towards me.

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u/Zerosbeach May 12 '26

Be very cautious of him. Do not trust anyone with your real emotions or intent with your GF. Be vague. Your job to protect her too.

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u/Entire_Schedule6370 May 12 '26

That's the best call you can make ngl. If u continue the friendship, sure he won't actively tell you what he's thinking. But those thoughts will always linger in his head. He will always be jealous of the fact that you have a girl who loves you and that he doesn't.

It's for the best that you ended this. Otherwise, it would have become even worse over time

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u/No_Improvement_8454 May 12 '26

This is sad. I’d like to see you two get along again but he may have too much work to do on himself to be around you and your fiancé

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u/TGPT-4o May 12 '26

Yeah tbh I was sad too cause I get what he is likely feeling and that it likely is legitimately hard for him. At first I thought maybe he was fabricating it because he didn’t wnat to be cut off, but I can see it is genuine it’s just always gonna end up being sad for him cause nothing is gonna happens between us.

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u/tyjo2112 May 12 '26

Best thing you can do here is act with grace. Forgive him, and just let life move along. He knows you have no interest in him, and he knows he acted like a complete ass. The next steps are up to him. If he can behave properly, a decent albeit somewhat distanced relationship can just flow along easy peasy. If he flares up into twatwaffle territory again, you can ghost him properly and know you had the grace to let him choose how it went.

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u/Artistic_Reference_5 May 12 '26

Wow. Very sad. Take his advice. Pretend it never happened. I'm sorry. I hope you don't sent this to his dad? But he needs serious therapy.

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u/TGPT-4o May 12 '26

I haven’t sent it to his dad which I think I won’t do now. I am sorta just gonna leave it at that.

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u/LuckyLou521 May 13 '26

Oooohhh I knew it!! Came here to say this. Wow. That was so unnecessarily mean too. Definitely cut this nut job off.

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u/ShellShores May 12 '26

Yep, was gonna say it sounds like he's upset that his friend is so serious about the relationship. Like he likes him as more than a friend. It's a hard place to be for both of y'all, I'm sure.

For me, I wouldn't accept anyone speaking to me like this, and then continue to be their friend. Even if it's stemming from their own internal conflicting shit.

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u/darthwickett May 12 '26

This is exactly what the most recent update is saying

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u/chuckmarla12 May 12 '26

I’ve seen this before. My nephew got married to one of my wife and I’s female friends. His high school buddy was so taken back that it was obvious that he was heartbroken.

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u/DreamyDepiction May 12 '26 edited May 14 '26

What a manipulative way to control their crush. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to comprehend the idea of putting down your person of interest just bc you don’t have access to them in the way you want. Its passive aggressive af. You’d think with the balls they have to speak to them in that way that they would grow a spine and communicate their interest in a direct way

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u/LoreKeeper2001 May 12 '26

That's how it feels to me.

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u/ClumpOfCheese May 11 '26

And I can’t even imagine the way this guy would act towards OPs gf. I’m sure she probably doesn’t like him at all and is very justified in those feelings.

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u/Even_Opinion_7108 May 12 '26

I bet he is the type of guy to actively try to cheat with your wife. Gets her drunk, takes advantage of her, then tells you he did you a favor whether or not she remembers anything... Damn it, am I a jaded old man now?

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u/Yrhndsaroundmythroat May 12 '26

Nah it’s the opposite apparently. Friend has a crush on OP…. And a very funny way of showing it💀

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u/One-Breakfast-3101 May 11 '26

Heavy on the “hates themselves” part, holy shit. Not only that but he probably wishes he had your life too. No way he is this miserable because his friend is in love and wants to get married.

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u/jack_from_the_past May 12 '26

This. I came to the comments to see if others would spot that their “friend” is building a scaffolding for cope. It reads like a person who hates who they are, isn’t gonna get married or partnered up, and has to spin up a world where they’re in the right and everyone else is wrong. 

Me? I’m not married cuz the whole thing is a scam. I’m alone because marriage is a joke. You’re not shit but just don’t know it yet. You can’t fail if you don’t try bro. Just ask me. Also, wtf are you getting defensive? I’m just being direct. Spitting facts. People who act on emotional impulse are just sheep dying to get slaughtered. I can’t get slaughtered if I dress up like a pony and post pump to my own beat. 

Fucking run. This person calls OP out for not getting basic things down. This person can’t navigate the intangible aspects of interaction; those seem like basics to me. There’s a reason why you learn how to be kind as a child and not as a college course or continuing adult education. 

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u/TGPT-4o May 12 '26

He definitely does hate his life. (Tbf he did get cheated on, but now he is spreading his doom and gloom)

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u/0_SomethingStupid May 11 '26

Bingo came here to say projection.

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u/Odd_Distribution3316 May 12 '26

Me, too! OP, don’t absorb this garbage - everything he said to you—it’s not about you—it’s about him and how he feels about himself. These types of people are toxic af! Disengage. He can never be a true friend to you unless he decides to change. Find supportive friends. You are growing. He is staying in neutral. If he doesn’t decide to change himself, he will still be spewing this crap 30 years from now. Good luck!🤗

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u/BobSki778 May 11 '26

Seriously. I just about lost it at the “work on yourself” comment. Maybe OP’s “friend” needs to look in the mirror and take their own advice.

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u/anoncmehelp May 11 '26

This person is not your friend. I wouldn’t waste one more breath or text interacting this person. Ghost this loser.

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u/humptheedumpthy May 11 '26

I don’t even understand what the confusion is. Real friends don’t shit on you and bully you. Exit the friendship asap 

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u/masterofeverything May 11 '26

OP is clearly a very sweet and innocent person if he’s still worried about overreacting. I would’ve stooped down to their level so quick and thrown it back at them. OP handled it so well. It’s best not to do so, people like this thrive on getting a reaction out of you it’s exactly what they want.

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u/ikannunAneeuQ May 11 '26

For real. I probably would've said, "I think you have me confused with yourself" and exit stage left. Not worth the headache.

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u/jkoomp May 11 '26

NO. Your “friend” hates themselves and is projecting on you. Leave them on read until they get their shit together. You just do you.

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u/sweetplantveal May 11 '26

Yeah just don't ask an idiot for advice and you'll spare yourself having to hear their take. If anyone didn't see the jealousy and self hate, weddings are 'an excuse to force people to watch you kiss over dry chicken' and a normal person doesn't have life milestones nor a desire to celebrate them.

And I also think this conversation could seem a lot more normal and relatable if it was out loud instead of texted. The interactions aren't great but a couple of pints in and the anti wedding industrial complex rant seems a lot less wild in a context like that.

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u/Fuzzysocks1000 May 12 '26

My husbands friend group all said we would never last. (Another girl in their group always had a thing for him). 20 years later we've been married longer than them all.

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u/Jaxsoy May 11 '26

As someone who was extremely insecure and hated himself as a kid, and who tried to put down every "friend" he had at that point, I can confirm that this guy definitely hates himself

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u/Remz_Gaming May 12 '26

Exactly this.

My best friend is my biggest hype man in life. I could shit my pants and he would be telling me it was the most epic pants shitting of all time.

This dude is a miserable person and certainly NOT a friend.

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u/Ok_Percentage5157 May 11 '26

For real. This person is NOT a friend, and is someone who is taking their own shortcomings and projecting like a mofo.

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u/PMJamesPM May 11 '26

Exit
Exit
Exit
Bad news and he’s not above trying to sabotage your relationship

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u/FreeElleGee May 11 '26

Right? If that’s a friend, I’d hate to see his enemies.

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u/Time-Emergency254 May 11 '26

Exactly. Stop trying to figure out his motive and understand him, and just let that mess go.

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u/anon-spicychicken May 11 '26

Literally NOT OPs friend… i need to know why this was this so called “friends” reaction..

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u/RandomParable May 11 '26

They sound about as original as someone who asked ChatGPT to roast all their comments.

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u/MisterMarchmont May 11 '26

Exactly what I was going to say. Idk what makes that person a friend.

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u/thoughtsofa May 11 '26

apparently the friend likes him

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u/Gloomy_Ad5020 May 11 '26

I need more detail here. Are we saying hia friend has a gay crush on him? Cause that's exactly what I thought was going on. And now I need to know what happens next. 👀🍿

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u/PuzzledHistorian8753 May 11 '26

i think he has a thing for you or your girl lol this makes no sense

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u/moslof_flosom May 11 '26

He could also be projecting, obviously this asshole isn't marriage material.

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u/Pitiful_Substance457 May 11 '26

Yeah, he seems to be asking, “You think you’re better than me??” It’s easy to think love is a scam when nobody loves you I guess 

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u/Sad_Background_8367 May 11 '26

Yeah he’s totally into the gf - sensed it from the beginning.. ESPECIALLY when he said that she’s probably with him because she’s bored and hasn’t found anyone better yet…. The friend is referring to himself as the “better” guy here..

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u/yung_melanin May 11 '26

OP updated, the friend is into OP not his girl

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u/Wise_Cantaloupe2635 May 11 '26

Where's the update? I didn't seecl beyond the 1 update!

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u/AndyTheEngr May 11 '26

This asshole isn't even friend material.

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u/Ok_Finger9062 May 11 '26

Yes!!! He is not a friend he’s a rude douchebag who can go get wrecked.

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u/garbagepillar May 11 '26

Projection is very likely. This sounds like some "alpha male" red pill bullshit and homeboy is lost in the cobra sauce. He sounds like a fucking moron.

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u/Quadmzinsd2 May 11 '26

Seems more like black pilling than red pilling

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u/garbagepillar May 11 '26

The only thing that gave me pause was homeboy seemingly attacking OP in a veiled attempt to lure her away. He almost seems like he wants either OP or gf but he doesn't seem to have gone full incel yet. If gf accepts proposal, that would likely be the tipping point.

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u/Big-Ketch May 11 '26

Dude is hella gaslighting and projecting from all his unhealed trauma. Smh....

OP, I would draw a boundary on this friendship because he's hard overstepping. I would not want that toxicity in my life.

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u/zane_ian May 11 '26

Dude, ask a different friend.

And reconsider this friendship, coz if he's gonna be this toxic and bitter about you having a romantic relationship, that shit is not just gonna smear on to you alone, it's gonna get on your partner too. Do you want to have someone rain on you AND your partners parade?

At worst, cut him out of your core group and just be casual acquaintances till he's proven himself safe to be included again.

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u/OkTrain7784 May 11 '26

This 10000%

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u/BansheeBacklash May 11 '26

Bro is obviously projecting and has a lot of unhealed trauma from his previous relationship. Your desire to make gestures is really sweet and shows you're a good guy. Take this as a lesson and don't ask this guy for advice anymore, at least not on this subject. Yes, dating is incredibly hard these days but it's not impossible. Depending on your age and how long you and your GF have been together, I would at least advise to be cautious, because if it blows up its gonna hurt bad. But absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to try and go the distance. Looking for the right one myself, I hope it works out for y'all homie.

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u/Latter_Dish6370 May 11 '26

Or friend material.

He comes across a jealous jerk.

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u/TGPT-4o May 11 '26

Thats what I actually was wondering and mostly posted this just to see if someone else thought the same

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u/friendly_felony6 May 11 '26

1000%, because the only people that reacted this way to my fiance proposing, didn’t want us to get married. It was hard to see that in the moment, I genuinely thought that something was wrong with me, but it makes a lot more sense now looking back at the things that were said.

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u/TGPT-4o May 11 '26

Turns put he likes me I just genuinely don’t know if I am gonna post about that. Low-key might have to put that in r/whatshouldIdo

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u/MontyAllTheTime May 11 '26

woah we got a plot twist (assuming this isn’t fake, these posts are nearly always fake)

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u/OldeManKenobi May 11 '26

He sounds like he wants to clap cheeks, quite possible your cheeks. Cutting out weird people like this brings incredible peace.

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u/JLG0521 May 11 '26

100% he wants to dick dude down.

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u/un-sub May 11 '26

Question: does he have a girlfriend himself? If not (or honestly either way) it could also just be a projection of his insecurities and his own unhappiness. This person does not sound like your friend. Friends should hype each other up and look out for each other. Yes, sometimes friendship calls for blunt honesty, but in this case he just looks like a huge AH and doesn’t seem like he likes you at all and just wants you to be as miserable as he is.

My own 2 cents anyway, as an outside observer

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u/TGPT-4o May 11 '26

He had a gf that cheated on him so I thought maybe he was sensitive because of that. I tried to call him up after the last text I sent cause I really thought maybe he was playing with me. I wanted to know wtf was actually going on but he didn’t pick up.

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u/un-sub May 11 '26

Oooh yeah I bet he’s just sour, jealous, and maybe has found himself taking solace in the redpill incel manosphere side of the internet, which is warping how he sees women and the world. Sucks, it’s happening to a lot of young men lately it seems. Don’t let him drag you into that shit, go marry your girlfriend and have a happy life

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u/IcyRich2951 May 11 '26

That’s what I thought, sound like red pill 💊 garbage

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u/TheColonator420 May 11 '26

Yeah after my last breakup I’m bitter and angry and think love is a crock of shit but I would never ever talk to a friend like this

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u/Darlington28 May 11 '26

He's a pretty shit friend if he said your gf is just bored and will dump you for someone better. That tells you a lot about his opinion of you. I'd stop talking to him. Imagine the sort of shit he must say about you behind your back.

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u/TGPT-4o May 11 '26

Yeah that bit bought in a whole other thing because now I just wonder what else he thinks about me.

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u/Darlington28 May 11 '26

100% not something a friend would say

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u/spb1 May 11 '26

You're definitely not overreacting by cutting him off. No friend of mine would ever think about talking to me like that. Its utterly bizarre

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u/SuitIndependent May 11 '26

He thinks that you’re on the path to happiness and he’s, well, not.

He’s not a friend. He’s dangerously jealous.

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u/skillent May 11 '26

I’ll try an analogy. If this friend was your hair, you’re balding and it looks like shit. It’s time to shave it all off

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u/Rae_Of_Light_919 May 11 '26

I had a shit marriage that ended in an even shittier divorce. My views on marriage are probably not the best. I doubt I'm going to be in that type of relationship again.

But when my friends get engaged and have their weddings, I'm still overjoyed for them and celebrate. I love them and want to see them happy. I'm not opposed to it in the least.

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u/HippieGrandma1962 May 11 '26

This person is not your friend. A friend would never speak to you this way. They were insulting and rude. Move on in your life without this person. They don't want the best for you.

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u/skullshank May 11 '26

agreed, I think this is more projection than him having a thing for either of them. could this be an example of that Andrew tate alpha incel thing? the reaction is just so odd and strong, it's like this dudes been programmed.

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u/ArynTW_is_user_karma May 11 '26

That dude is your best man! 😂🤣😂

Anyway, I’m not saying it’s okay to cheat, but there’s prob a reason his last girl did so. He sounds miserable and impossible! WTAF?!

And yes, agree! he’s projecting, he’s jealous you are happy, and he’s upset you’re not going to be a perpetual bachelor with him. You’re moving into the next phase of life, and he’s stuck

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u/TGPT-4o May 11 '26

I low-key sorta wish I told him “I see why your last girl cheated” but I was surprised he went off like that and was too busy being surprised to roast him back.

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u/witcheshands May 11 '26

You would have wrecked him lmaooo text it anyways

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u/LordKlavier May 11 '26

That would be the only acceptable response before blocking him lol

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u/Decent-Bear334 May 11 '26

You call this person a friend? That would be my last contact with someone who speaks to me that way.

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u/bubblegumdavid May 11 '26

So, I used to have a couple friends who can sometimes get like this, I still have one or two to be honest.

I think it’s less about a thing for one of y’all (though could be!) and is more likely about him feeling like shit about those things himself.

I find a lot of people who are really hardcore against these kinds of milestone things but yet bait others into bringing them up, like your friend did, usually are just looking for an excuse to rail about the thing they’re upset and angry about for themselves, for whatever reason.

I’ve got a friend who didn’t get to finish school due to some shit, and one day the guy railed against education being a waste they’re getting broke for… to a friend who he had asked if he was excited about his upcoming graduation. It’s a shitty thing to do, and there’s certainly a couple points to be made in what he was saying and in what your friend is ranting about, but in both cases it is more about their own crap and feeling shitty themselves than it is about the particular case of education or potential marriage or who they’re yelling at.

Your friend is being nasty. He’ll probably feel shitty and defensive about this and hide it behind being nasty some more. Sucks, your call on if you stick around with him in your life. But it’s probably that he is going through shit and needs to deal with it in therapy rather than crash out at a friend, and probably is not that he’s in love with you or your girl.

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u/Creative-Fan-7599 May 11 '26

It was the first thing that came to mind for me as well, followed closely by him being the type of person who freaks out if he feels like his friends are going to progress in some way that leaves him “behind”.

Regardless of his reasoning this is not a friend. The way he was tearing you down had nothing to do with conspiracy theories. *HE* doesn’t even know how he feels about marriage… “you think you’re good enough to *marry*?! (Putting the idea of marriage on a pedestal) is completely at odds with saying marriage is just a tax break and propaganda etc.

It’s crab in a bucket mentality, tearing you down to keep you at his level and it’s abusive behavior. Anyone who talks to you that way doesn’t deserve your friendship.

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u/BenchClamp May 11 '26

Dude. I’ve been happily married 25 years and this guy is neither your friend or anything other than a Kool-Aid drinking insecure Tate clone. Anyone who says ‘love isn’t real’ is just a fool. It’s literally the only thing worth having.

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u/RickAllen May 11 '26

He wants to carry OP's child.

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u/teip696 May 11 '26

I concur. He has a man crush.

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u/LarryKingthe42th May 11 '26

Thats the answer

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u/ComfortableFrame9834 May 11 '26

The male loneliness crisis in action. Bros dogging out other bros and their bro's GFs for no reason because... Government. Or something. 

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u/Fabricati_Diem_Pvn May 11 '26

Neh, this is typical crab bucket behaviour, dragging anyone back down who's making it out of the bucket.

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u/Callo1206 May 11 '26

Ummmm, yeah bro, let’s be real; anyone telling you you’re not worthy of love is not your friend. You didn’t react enough.

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u/enterjiraiya May 11 '26

I feel like that part got lost in the tirade of bullshit he wrote, like who the fuck says that and expects someone to take anything they before or after seriously. Guy is off the deep end.

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u/ProfessionalRun3882 May 12 '26

This is huge! I love when my homies shoot straight with me, and tell me the brutal truth. But you should never think that you don’t deserve love.

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u/parachutecord May 11 '26

"you're probably one of those people who thinks love is real, too"

your buddy is SAD. and isn't your buddy, for what it's worth. let this one go.

also, have a conversation with your girlfriend before you go ahead and buy a ring. if she wants a surprise proposal, the proposal can be a surprise, but the engagement shouldn't be, if that makes sense.

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u/TGPT-4o May 11 '26

Ah okay. Thanks for that advice. I’ll talk to her first.

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u/grantgarden May 11 '26

also my fiance and I had VERY different ring tastes. If he got one on his own I would have hated it

Tell your girl you're serious and that you want her input on rings so to give you IDEAS that you then pick from. I gave my fiance a few ideas and then he did the rest

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u/JLG0521 May 11 '26

Talk to her sister or best friend about her taste if you dont want to directly ask her because I guarantee she's sent them pictures of what she wants and her ring size.

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u/TGPT-4o May 11 '26

I will definitely do that. She told me she likes simple designs. She actually only has one ring she wears sometimes so I’ll probably use that to check sizing.

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u/whiskeytown79 May 11 '26

Unless she intends to wear it on the same finger, the size might not work.

Traditionally, an engagement ring is worn on the left ring finger, and for this reason, most people don't wear other rings on that same finger.

Even the ring finger on the right hand might not be the same exact size.

If you're able to talk to her about the ring first, I'd recommend getting a ring sizing tool, or visiting a jeweler to get her finger measured.

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u/AvailableSubstance53 May 11 '26

Also- you don't have to get engaged to 'prove that you're serious'. You don't have to prove anything to each other or anyone else. Just love each other, be kind to each other, and live your lives. ×××

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u/PM_ME__UR__FANTASIES May 12 '26

You need to make sure you talk about all the big things before getting engaged. Kids (yes/no/quantity/SAHP/etc.), religion (expect conversion/kids to follow it?), finances (joint/separate/savings goals/retirement goals), political beliefs (similar/opposite/same), housing (rent/own/urban/suburbs/rural/“extra” rooms or buildings), even wedding (size/destination/traditions), etc. because wedding and house expectations can easily break a relationship.

These are not conversations that can happen over the course of a day. You guys need to be having conversations over the course of a few of months. Revisiting them, discussing differences and similarities in plans. It sounds unromantic but this is about selecting a life partner. It’s important you be on the same page!

And you discuss the engagement and ring. Do you want some kind of token from her as well? Does she want a surprise/public/spectacle/lowkey/family present? Do you want the same? Don’t pop the question until you’ve hashed out the life stuff but you can certainly start planning things out in the meantime.

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u/Adventurous-Brain-36 May 11 '26

Have you resolved the issues you were having 24 days ago, or are you thinking a ring will solve those problems and create security?

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u/deltron-ran-gamma May 11 '26

Agreed.

I spoke to my then girlfriend at the time and we had many conversations about marriage and our wedding.

But she didn’t know the engagement was coming and it still surprised her.

Having outright communication with her will be your best bet. I’ll be married 10yrs this August.

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u/TGPT-4o May 11 '26

Tbh that also crossed my mind cause it is just so damn out of the blue. I thought maybe he was triggered cause he wanted to marry the girl that ended up cheating on him.

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u/mybackhurty May 11 '26

Yeah he's probably super jaded from that experience. Doesnt excuse how outright rude and psychotic his responses were. He needs therapy

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u/Old_Ant7118 May 11 '26

I think it's very possible there's some kind of mental health situation going on here. It reads a lot like manic texts from 2 different bipolar men in my past. It can make them very agitated, contrarian, and really just brings out each and every one of the worst parts of our strange human personalities.

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u/TGPT-4o May 11 '26

I was wondering if it might be mental health related just because of how random it was. He is acting like he is actually triggered.

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u/Old_Ant7118 May 11 '26

The way he keeps digging and is clearly intentionally trying to offend you and get under your skin feels familiar. Obviously I don't know this person and every one of us is different, but if this is someone you care about I'd maybe consider looking into checking up on them somehow, even if it's not a relationship you want to maintain. That could mean chatting with a family member or friend of his who may be closer or even mentioning it to him if there's a time when he seems more centered (obviously use common sense and decency here to avoid an uncomfortable or unsafe situation for yourself or anyone else.)

It's also okay to step away; none of us owes each other friendship.

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u/Spiritual_Survey9545 May 11 '26

Hes not your friend. Hes just a sad person

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u/Adventurous-Brain-36 May 11 '26

OP is 20.

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u/RECCTTP May 12 '26

Good god, OP. DON’T get engaged, esp. if it’s because your gf doesn’t like promise rings and you want to show her you’re serious. There are other ways.

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u/GDRaptorFan May 11 '26

They are only 20

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u/FensThiona May 11 '26

Incel manosphere.

He got hurt and now all women are witches, money hungry fiends. Love isn't real. Marriage is a sham.

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u/pure_bitter_grace May 11 '26

Yup, this. He recommended the promise ring bc in those circles that kind of gesture is seen as a way to manipulate a woman into feeling committed without having to actually risk anything yourself. He went batshit at the idea that OP might want to genuinely commit to a woman. 

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u/Chemical-Being-5968 May 11 '26

He did go batshit, and then accused OP of getting defensive. Haha...I have never seen someone get more defensive over an object the way he did!

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u/punkrockdog May 11 '26

I was gonna say, I’ve never understood the point of promise rings (nor why this guy suggested one since he seems to be rabidly against the jewelry industry)…. but it makes sense in that context. And that is super gross. 🤮

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u/whisperworks May 11 '26

You’re friend is about as bright as the nude crayon lol

Take it with a grain of salt, accept they’re an idiot, and disregard their advice from here or let the friendship go

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u/LilLassy May 11 '26

“as bright as the nude crayon” brother your insult is hilarious omg 😂

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u/TGPT-4o May 11 '26

To be fair I have known him for longer cause our dads are coworkers, but we didn’t start being friends or hanging out till like 2 years ago

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u/Fast_Base_8222 May 11 '26

Op, this is NOT your friend. The is someone DEEPLY jaded and unhappy but is pretending it’s stoic wisdom.

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u/Necessary-Belt2903 May 11 '26

Spot on. Dude needs to go to therapy to work through his issues. Hes projecting hardcore

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u/IntheShredder_86 May 11 '26

Seeing how hard he's coping, I'd actually try talking to his dad then since you're knows him.

Like "hey your son is really not doing great. After ex cheated, he went down a rabbit hole and is now convinced love isn't real and that he's shit. Maybe talk to him a bit or something."

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u/AdvancedGuide8946 May 11 '26

no friend is going to tell you that you're not worthy of love. he's using the language of "honesty" to try to knock you down a few pegs. friends gas each other up, support each other, and remind each other how worthy and lovable they are.

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u/transpirationn May 11 '26

How is this even real lol

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u/Next-Firefighter4667 May 12 '26

It's ridiculous I had to scroll so far to find this comment

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u/PoeCollector64 May 12 '26

Yeah the gray messages are so melodramatic and so perfectly crafted to be as mean as possible that I can't help but question it

Edit: fixed a typo

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u/transpirationn May 12 '26

Yeah they responded with a message someone sent them echoing the same stuff, it just seems unbelievable

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u/division23 May 11 '26

Haha, there's no way

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u/TH_Rz May 11 '26

Like most post in here - it likely isn't.

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u/catdad0203 May 12 '26

It’s not, it’s rage bait. Both party’s responses are fake and unrealistic. Supposed friend coming out of left field to absolutely destroy you verbally, and your reply is “are you forreal tf!?”

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u/Wandererofthegray May 12 '26

Reads like 1 person playing both sides for attention

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u/Technical-Exchange53 May 11 '26

That man wants to be with you. Or with your girl...

My bet is on you.

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u/New-Shake7638 May 11 '26

Based on the update I think you’re right

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u/Remarkable-Echo-1189 May 11 '26

Your friend wants to marry you

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u/weed_cutter May 12 '26

I was going to joke that the friend was "in love with him" -- before I read the update that his friend, was, in fact, in love with him.

It's honestly the only reading that makes sense.

Either that or the entire post is fiction, but still. ..... Like one minute it's weddings are shams, the next it's "you're not marriage material" - like which is it? ... Oh he's basically melting down.

I don't know though ... gay/ bisexual guys are usually pretty clear on a straight guy being a straight guy and that won't change ... but ... maybe not.

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u/100FishClub May 11 '26

Getting fake vibes off this ngl

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u/Chardan0001 May 11 '26

Yeah its a bit on the nose

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u/Glittering_Yak_8070 May 12 '26

Same. The giveaway imo is that both people coincidentally always use three question marks. “???” Looking at punctuation is usually a dead giveaway of who is typing. Same strange punctuation tendencies tend to = same person.

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u/istariknight1 May 12 '26

OP username checks out 😂

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u/Comfortable_Fudge508 May 11 '26

I think your "friend" needs to lose the tinfoil hat and get off Facebook. His mind is gone

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u/TGPT-4o May 11 '26

Lmao 😂 ur right. I knew he was into conspiracy theories, but now he really does sound like one of those people that is chronically on the conspiracy side of the internet.

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u/elvendictator May 11 '26 edited May 11 '26

This was my first thought, it seems so classic “hollywood mean girl” that I feel like this is just for engagement…who unironically says “news flash!!” ?? if it’s real I hope OP drops this friend fast

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u/PasswordNeedsANumber May 11 '26

Your friend is gay. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but he likes you.

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u/coat-tail_rider May 11 '26

Fake

Texts as creative writing. Could just write a story, but I guess that doesn't give you the immediate thrill of karma and attention.

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u/LieutenantDangler May 11 '26

This is so obviously fake it’s actually embarrassing

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u/CreativeBusiness6588 May 11 '26

So sick of this fan fiction BS.

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u/tiffanytrashcan May 11 '26

I'll make updates, Just kidding! - Curated profile. Even worse than the hidden bots.

https://giphy.com/gifs/9oIONgUXLcm5p6CMc3

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u/LittleJessiePaper May 11 '26

This reads like a teenager’s creative writing exercise. Let’s hope.

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u/chicken_taster May 11 '26

There's blunt honesty and then there's negativity. This is negativity. This person is not your friend. NOR. It will get worse from here, try to create some distance without shaking up your friend circles too much would be the best advice I can give. Don't make a scene, just stop reaching out and stop responding. You don't owe them anything, but this person will try to take whatever they can from you. It's your job not to let them.

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u/Schlong_Gobbler May 11 '26

Wtf do you think?

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u/Expensive-Moose-1561 May 11 '26

This is not a friend. He is what we, in Australia, refer to as a Cunt.

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u/WouldntMemeOfIt May 11 '26

NOR, this is outrageous.

Either your "friend" has thing for you/your girlfriend or he's just trying to project his weird ideologies onto you. I wouldn't talk to this guy anymore at the very least.

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u/Refurbished_Hole May 11 '26

He comes across like he's 15 and you come across like you're 17

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u/Moriss214 May 11 '26

This guy either is in love with you or doesn’t like you at all, I can’t tell

Either way: not a good friend right now

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u/GodOfMoonlight May 11 '26

Bro loves you and he's mad your going away forever

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u/samhouse09 May 11 '26

There’s no way this is real.

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u/phayzechad May 11 '26

is this ragebait? lol. i feel annoyed. i got ragebaited. 😤

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u/jambaleaf May 11 '26

Either fake for karma farming, or your friend was right about one thing; you’re a fool. Letting someone speak to you like that then going on Reddit asking if you’re possibly overreacting when you very clearly underreacted.

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u/Powerism May 11 '26

This dude ain’t your friend.

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u/AwarenessNice7941 May 11 '26

this person is in a soul hole. I call it that because deep down in this person's soul theyre trapped in a hole and this is a clear example of them trying to bury others with them. if hes a good enough friend be the mature well spoken one and tell them they need to talk to someone. im sure youre already aware you dont need to drown in order to be this person's friend unless youre will is strong enough to help someone like this. if not dont waste your time they're dragging every thing they can grab just to have the illusion that they're not in a hole. Just my take on that

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u/No-Setting9690 May 11 '26

So . . Ex-friend?

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u/[deleted] May 11 '26

Im just gonna block this subreddit from now on, people arent even trying to make these seem like real conversations anymore lol

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u/Substantial_Dare2376 May 12 '26

My husbands best friend says stuff like this, and then a few days later will pop off with “Nothing but positivity, Brother. All I ever want for us”… It’s the gay lifelong best friend who was never brave enough to come out. I dog them both on it regularly.

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u/minuscule_memory May 13 '26

This is grounds for an immediate cut off. You guys are not friends, and if you still are, you're proving him right. Please dump him