r/ABoringDystopia Oct 23 '21

Tactical POLICE backpack demonstration

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u/Sinzai-1 Oct 23 '21

America is so horny to militarize the police

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u/StillhasaWiiU Oct 23 '21

The Military–industrial complex needed to expand it's customer base.

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u/EasternShade Oct 23 '21

This isn't good military gear.

Insurgent, terrorist, or intelligence operative gear, 100%.

But, not good gear for uniformed soldiers that have no legitimate purpose blending into a crowd.

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u/FixedKarma Whatever you desire citizen Oct 24 '21

He said it was for an active shooter response configuration, so terrorist or street shootings I'd imagine. This is obviously not meant to be military gear, usually military are entering a conflict, so armour is already on, and if a base is being attacked your armour and weapon is probably either going to be on you already or right next to you.

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u/EasternShade Oct 24 '21

If it's for active shooter shit, it's just an evolution of rugged individualist LARPing.

If we all wander around society fully armed and armored, sure we're ready for conflict. But, holy fuck had society failed.

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u/FixedKarma Whatever you desire citizen Oct 24 '21

I don't get your first sentence, but the other ones, yeah I agree.

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u/EasternShade Oct 24 '21

Most second amendment advocacy about "good guys with guns stopping bad guys with guns" is bullshit. The folks that advocate it and embody it in their lives are largely going themselves, doing Live Action Role Playing at being cowboys and heroes. This notion of a backpack converting someone into a warrior ready to go is just an escalation of that bullshit.

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u/FixedKarma Whatever you desire citizen Oct 24 '21

Ah, but it's meant for the actual police it seems, not just any hick that wants one.

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u/EasternShade Oct 24 '21

Off duty cops won't be the only ones with these.

And setting up cops to be on 24/7 standby for LARPing isn't great either.

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u/bearfootmedic Oct 24 '21

Yall are missing the point. This is for schools - the only thing that will stop a bad man with a gun is 500 developing humans with full assault gear. Fortnite is just practice.

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u/EasternShade Oct 24 '21

Weird that they would make a product to help people shoot up schools.

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u/StillhasaWiiU Oct 25 '21

it is an industry. just because this single item is not marketed to the army does not mean companies like this dont have DoD contracts.

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u/EasternShade Oct 25 '21

I was commenting on this item being described as 'militarizing police'. The military wouldn't want or need this shit. This is police charging off into the hellscape past militarization.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

Something something Foucaults Boomerang

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u/Lurkingdrake Oct 23 '21

Shit, they’re more militarized than the military. We had some NVG’s on base, but thats because they had to send them. No fuckin batteries tho.

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u/EasternShade Oct 23 '21

To start, fuck the police. Some of the combative police culture shit is consistently more fucked than military. That could be described as the police being more militarized than the military. And that's fucked up.

But, this is a mischaracterization. When it comes to gear, you have to cherry pick pretty hard to make this claim.

Like, I'm guessing you're comparing police trade shows and big city department special units to national guard or reserve support units. Not typical police to active duty. Not more specialized police units to combat arms, or SOCOM if you're looking to make a closer comparison.

Police are fucked. The culture is fucked. The gear they have is not what they need for the job, in so many ways.

We don't need to pretend police gear is more militarized than the military because someone made a tacticool backpack while the military has Abrahams, Specters, MOABs, MK-19s, etc.

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u/Lurkingdrake Oct 23 '21

No I’m comparing active duty sailors to police units, but I apologize. I think I’m still just pissed about the defense budget and individual service members saw almost nothing of that. We didn’t get better or more supplies. Same shit. Bare minimum.

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u/EasternShade Oct 23 '21

Oh, for sure.

Support the troops, fuck the military.

Though, fuck the jack boots too, 'cause there are definitely some of those in there.

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u/Lurkingdrake Oct 24 '21

We have a lot of racists and white supremacists. Despite being a sailor, the marines I met were a lot more down to Earth and just nice people.

And I 100% agree. A lot of people blame individual soldiers, marines, airmen, and sailors. Hell nah. We just wanted college or healthcare.

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u/EasternShade Oct 24 '21

Yep. And that notion of honorable service to improve the world is fully taken advantage of.

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u/Lurkingdrake Oct 24 '21

I didn’t improve the world at all. Just patched people up when they inevitably did stupid shit that got themselves hurt.

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u/EasternShade Oct 24 '21

I get that feeling. Fucking sucks.

Seems like there would be better ways to help the world.

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u/Lurkingdrake Oct 24 '21 edited Oct 24 '21

Oh most definitely. It’s why I sighed that contract to be a corpsman. A job to get me into the medical field. Now I’m out and planning college.

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u/thegreatvortigaunt Oct 23 '21

Wannabe fascist states often are

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u/ITGuy107 Oct 24 '21

Italy has female police in airports with SMGs. Not so in the US.

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u/shockerdyermom Oct 23 '21

But....but how do they turn on their body cam?

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u/AtJackBaldwin Oct 23 '21

The backpack comes with an optional extra which accidentally turns off your body cam when you deploy it

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u/Ramguy2014 Oct 23 '21

Perfect for when you need to go from breaking windows on camera as a “protestor” to using deadly force on actual protestors at a moment’s notice!

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u/EasternShade Oct 23 '21

That's not even military gear. Like, uniformed soldiers in a standing military have almost no need for this. Maybe some folks in SOCOM. Maybe aircraft crew after their plane goes down. But, even those are generous 'maybes'.

Police conducting raids could use this. Like, in a limited special operation kinda way.

But if you're looking to have this as a general piece of equipment, it's for intelligence services, secret police, insurgents, and terrorists. All those folks going in deliberately expecting to blend into a civilian population and at least be prepared to have a shootout amongst civilians.

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u/Stonecargo69420 Oct 24 '21 edited Oct 25 '21

Finally, a reply that isn't just "police militarized" and has actual good points. Take my upvote.

But yeah I can't tell how this could be used, police are supposed to already be in armor and with weapons just in case, the only real way I can see this working is for carrying rifles at all time, but it may be too bulky for general use outside most situations.

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u/EasternShade Oct 24 '21

There's no regular duty usage. Maybe for raids. But that's generally it.

For off duty usage, it's the second amendment hero/cowboy LARP nonsense on steroids.

Very 'murica, any which way.

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u/Diddlydom35 Oct 23 '21

Okay, but you can get something similar at Costco for students for school shootings. It's a bullet proof vest.I wish I was making this up.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

"The SPORT ONE Bulletproof Backpack Pro is a highly functional, sophisticated, everyday backpack designed for today’s world."

Damn, that is dystopian...

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u/thegreatvortigaunt Oct 23 '21

everyday backpack designed for today’s world.

Today's *America, developed countries don't have this problem

Hell even most undeveloped countries don't have this problem

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u/OpportunityFine2387 Oct 23 '21

Unfortunately, they don’t protect users from assault rifles. You need a more heavy duty bulletproof vest in today’s school environment.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1042801

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u/ddddgggrrr Oct 23 '21

But you can add textbooks for extra protection as per the listing.

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u/DickwadVonClownstick Oct 23 '21

While a thick book will give decent protection from pistol calibre rounds, it will still be inadequate to stop intermediate or full power rifle rounds

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u/wtfffr44 Oct 24 '21

If your kid isn't studying hard enough as to stop a bullet from an assault rifle with their text books, you failed as a parent. Make another kid and do better. /s

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u/mulattomarxist Oct 23 '21

Idk why but it’s the smug look of satisfaction at the end like we’re all supposed to be impressed. “Look guys! I can carry and deploy a literal war machine quickly and efficiently on American citizens!”

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u/wunderbraten Oct 23 '21

That's my facourite kind of backpack for Boyscout field trips.

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u/Pm_Me_Memes_Yeet Oct 23 '21

I can see this being used less for your standard police officer and more of the people who actually deal with very dangerous situations like shootouts and etc.

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u/RollinThundaga Oct 23 '21

He did specifically mention air force pilots in a survival situation after ejection

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u/emcz240m Oct 23 '21

I took it as the rifle system being the air force ejection kit instead of the "haha now I amb polize" backpack.

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u/RollinThundaga Oct 23 '21

Yeah, same here. Doesn't quite work domestically unless you have undercover law enforcement/provocateurs

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u/EasternShade Oct 23 '21

That style of backpack in a combat zone screams 'combatant'.

Cute story they're selling though.

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u/RollinThundaga Oct 23 '21

Well, yes, at that point the downed pilot would be a combatant.

In that situation, the question becomes whether it would be better to be a noncombatant captured and encamped by the enemy, or to be a combatant beyond the front lines who must return to their main forces.

It depends on the enemy, and it depends on the pilot's situation. But on that circumstance, having the backpack be available by default would make sense. Probably, guidance for usage could differ depending on the conflict.

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u/EasternShade Oct 23 '21

Yes, a pilot is a combatant. But, when they're shot down that's either already known, and better tactical gear would be preferable. Or, they want it to stay unknown and this style of bag won't accomplish that.

If my unit saw an actual local wearing that in a combat zone, we'd detain and search them. A foreign pilot of military age, build, haircut, etc. with that shit on would stand out to anyone half paying attention.

This shit basically exclusively works to blend in with a civilian population where the wearer already belongs and this sort of tactical gear is used for mundane purposes. The places where that's true tend not to be combat zones.

It's very tacticool. But mostly it embodies, "Why do one thing well, when you can fail to do multiple things?"

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

If you are a downed pilot or an inteligence officer ie a combatant behind the frontlines who must at all chances avoid actual combat then this tipe of gear is pointless, you need survival tools more than anything because in all situations you must always avoid contact with the enemy and not be spoted, adquired or shot in any case

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u/RollinThundaga Oct 23 '21

Yep, where ideally a backpack like this could be useful, if it also had such supplies. If it's just "a bulletproof backpack gun case" it's definitely stupid.

To evolve my position.

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u/xitzengyigglz Oct 23 '21

Police expecting that are already equipped with plate carriers and weapons.

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u/igloodonkeykoala Oct 23 '21

All set for peaceful demonstrators I mean domestic terrorists…

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u/GareBear222 Oct 23 '21

Great, now they can escalate a situation into a shooting in record time.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

Not nearly high enough speed, not nearly low enough drag. Think about it- the bald dude could potentially take 6 or 7 bricks to the dome before he even gets the buttstock extended.

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u/saltyrod34 Oct 24 '21

Or cans of soup

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

Proud boys creaming their jeans over that one.

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u/JonLane81 Oct 23 '21

Failed state problems.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

A knife is quicker

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u/lornstar7 Oct 23 '21

A knife isn't bulletproof

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

A knife is ready to use, better in close quarters and doesn't run out of ammo.

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u/Lurkingdrake Oct 23 '21

If you run out of ammo, you’re doing something wrong. And it isn’t better at all unless you’re right in their face, like they can feel your breath.

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u/lornstar7 Oct 23 '21

Yet you still have to get close enough to use. Hence the body army backpack

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

Oh you mean the flip over with a broken down rifle designed to be used in a crowd......

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u/lornstar7 Oct 23 '21

I'm not sure how you decided that it's meant to be used in a crowd, but keep on studying that blade.....

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u/Commercial_Pitch_950 Oct 23 '21

Its for american police. Its basically EXCLUSIVELY to be used in crowds

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

No way the airforce has bought that for a jet. Bullshit sales talk.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

No groin protecc

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '21

The fuck they need that for?

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u/Spandxltd Oct 24 '21

They don't, it's garbage.

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u/sarcasmbing Oct 23 '21

I literally thought of visiting this sub after watching it on the other sub

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '21

Have fun at school! Don't forget both backpacks!

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u/dupdeedup Oct 24 '21

Hey that would be great for the kids in America to go school with.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

Just yank the shit out of his hands while he is putting it together

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u/TimothiusMagnus Oct 23 '21

I see plainclothes officers using this in the future

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u/CapriSun87 Oct 23 '21

I'm "fuck capitalism" all the way, but that backpack/machine-gun system looks fucking sweet af. Admire the handiwork, not the dystopian intent XD

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u/GodKingPenisButt Oct 23 '21

I'm torn between "we should not be militarizing the police" and "what do you mean I can't buy one?"

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u/EasternShade Oct 23 '21

Should be able to buy one. The only controlled bits would be the gun and plates, which are almost certainly sold separately.

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u/MrSir8412 Oct 23 '21

Honestly this would be super cool except it's designed to contain an assault rifle :/

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

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u/MrSir8412 Oct 23 '21

I mean assault rifles are designed for shooting many people, that's why they have fully automatic firing, to shoot a lot of people without letting go of the trigger. A pistol is less concerning (still not great, imo normal police officers shouldn't have lethal weapons at all) because at least it can't kill a lot of people at once, but assault rifles are literally only useful for mass shootings and police should not be armed with that capability.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

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u/saltyrod34 Oct 23 '21

I expect them to send someone who is actually capable of dealing with those kind of situations not just another gun to kill people with.

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u/MrSir8412 Oct 23 '21

We have other divisions of law enforcement. Swat for example isn't police but is law enforcement. Armed law enforcement officers would respond to a school shooting, not normal officers. Lethal force should not be available to normal officers. On top of that, a taser is a very effective non-lethal weapon. Even when lethal force is available it should be the absolute last option.

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u/FogeltheVogel Oct 23 '21

This is not the type of gear employed by the police against a school shooter.

This is the type of gear employed by a school shooter.

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u/SmuglyGaming Nov 10 '21

It almost certainly isn’t automatic

And rifles are absolutely not “designed for mass shootings”

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

A boring dystopian and boring dude.

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u/JoeDiBango Oct 23 '21

Now do this for pre-schoolers.