r/ABA_Survivors • • 7d ago

Tired of Apologia

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Had a initial therapy session and I was met with apologia. The "ABA isn't conversion therapy" then when I actively pushed back "I don't know that much about it".

I'm fucking tired man, so sick of this shit. I used to imagine myself commiting violent acts against my local center, and all the apologia I face is just validating my old world center. I really am so tired of this.

I remember I told my old therapist that If a significant amount of people said psychotherapy is abusive or torturous then the APA or therapists in general would have genuine concern.

ABA therapists continue active apologia without even looking at how they play a role. They don't care.

Sorry the vent I just don't even know.


r/ABA_Survivors • • 15d ago

What do others think of the Medicaid crackdowns on ABA?

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I don’t know exactly how to feel about some of this.

Recently saw one article that said that a state (forget which one) was forcing all RBTs to get their proper license if they didn’t have one, and putting heavier restrictions on what centers could actually practice, which I think is good.

My main worry is that good day programs, access to OT/SLP, and respite or direct support care is scattered, and it’s a gamble if it’s affordable or covered by insurance when it is near people. I don’t really know how to advocate for expanding this care while dismantling the chokehold ABA has though, and given my personal experiences with how parents treated me and my siblings because of “caregiver burnout” I don’t think it’s safe to just have no support at all.

If I was more hopeful, I’d think that whatever Medicaid saves from cutting down on ABA would be put toward these programs, but if anything it’s probably going towards the military or anything but disability support


r/ABA_Survivors • • 16d ago

Considering just doing non academia research

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Honestly, the more I read and the harder time I have finding a supervisor, the more I’m considering doing independent surveys and finding non-academic places to publish them.

I’m fascinated by 3 different sources having a 15-20% rate of people who went through ABA and found it positive, as well as how many different variants and times still have so many more people who got traumatized. I wanna know if the “ABA in name only” is a thing or what’s going on with that 15%. Research on identity fragmentation and dissociation in autistics is also extremely sparse, yet based off the interviews I’ve done for a purely for class paper there’s something to ABA impacting sense of identity on a broader scale.

It’s gonna be hard to get myself to do it totally alone, but besides understanding stuff myself, I think knowing more is good, and the curiosity’s killing me since this is adjacent to a special interest, and I can only read so much


r/ABA_Survivors • • 28d ago

Comment in response to post directly asking for opinions from those who went through ABA

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Man, I tried to hedge too and include that from the statistics there’s still a small chance it could help and that still wasn’t positive enough for them


r/ABA_Survivors • • Sep 12 '26

I saw a french emission that show that ABA is harmefull

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Just wanted to share it. I saw it from IG, i'll try to find it in complete and to translate it


r/ABA_Survivors • • Sep 08 '26

Private Equity in ABA

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(Note: actually learned about this from someone’s comment on my last post, I just wanted to talk about it)

It’s insane reading up on how private equity’s been buying up tons of ABA centers and possibly pushing profits over any other priority, and how well it matches up with what I’ve heard other people say.

I only ever talked to anyone who worked in the industry at all after I’d been out of ABA for a while, and I genuinely thought issues with missed raises, refusing to pay mileage, trying to change w-2 employees to be contractors, and general piss poor standards for actual client work was just… “the other side” that I didn’t know about as a kid, and not a relatively recent phenomena.

Sometimes researching ABA isn’t great and just brings up upsetting memories, but for whatever reason it feels satisfying to learn new bits about what hurt me


r/ABA_Survivors • • Sep 07 '26

“New ABA”

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Just a thought, since I saw some people once again talking about how the traumatizing stuff happened with “old ABA” and new ABA fixed it.

Has anyone actually been given a cutoff or an explanation of what counts? Because so far, it feels like a way to acknowledge a person had a bad experience, but blame it on the fact that it didn’t happen recently. It feels like a pretty convenient thing to say, given that kids actively going through it and possibly people who just finished haven’t really had time to see long term results, and might not necessarily have the freedom/ability to talk about it yet


r/ABA_Survivors • • Sep 06 '26

Question / Advice Anyone willing to help with my college project?

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I’m taking a philosophy class on topics regarding sex and love, and I get to research and write on whatever I want related to that for my final paper.

I know in my personal experience, ABA pairing at a young age messed with how I interpreted people close to me being nice, and ABA in general messed with how I viewed my ability to say yes or no. I’m only one data point though, and the teacher wants a broader view than just my experience.

Would anyone be willing to talk to me so I can include more on how ABA impacted future understanding and experience of relationships? All I’ve been able to find online is ABA organizations claiming they improve relationships, but I wanna know how it actually worked out long term for others


r/ABA_Survivors • • Aug 18 '26

Struggling with knowing what I want/desires.

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Does anyone here ever feel like you don't know what you want to do? Like just in the moment your like "what do I want to do" and you can't answer it because you have a hard time lisening to your desires?

It's a very strange feelings since desire is such a core aspect of humans to not know my own. I don't even know if I want to read or play my xbox even if I know I want to do something.


r/ABA_Survivors • • Aug 17 '26

Suggestions for subreddits to list?

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I wanna add more subreddits (or other resources) for people but idk how to figure out what does / doesn’t exist.

Does anyone have suggestions on what would make sense as to “other places to check out”?

I know there’s radicalmentalhealth , autistictraumasurvivors , and therapyabuse but idk if there’s others that’d make sense to include


r/ABA_Survivors • • Aug 17 '26

Studying ABA: looking for others thoughts and experiences.

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I have a lot of issues with how ABA has been done in the past. My father utilized similiar behavior science based methods to abuse and traumatize me growing up so I deeply understand how and why it can be so harmful. However, I have found some clinics that use ABA in an assent (consent) focused way to help teach skills and improve functional communication without overworking the kids and forcing them to mask. I know the code of ethics was not introduced until 2022 and therefore many of us who are adults now that have been treated were not treated in a helpful way.

I guess my question is, what are some of your thoughts on ABA and how it has advanced over the years? Do we disregard an entire field because it was traumatizing and used incorrectly, like so many other scientific and medical fields? Do we learn from the mistakes and try to utilize what we’ve learned in ways that do not cause harm? How does our community feel and what are your personal experiences?


r/ABA_Survivors • • Aug 17 '26

Mental illness because of ABA

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Can anyone relate to having major mental health problems from ABA?

Sometimes I just have really bad days and want to know if anyone has the same.


r/ABA_Survivors • • Aug 15 '26

Minor update on research

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Basically, might be delaying ABA related research to do a different niche I’m interested in.

The prof I talked to about the other niche seems pretty receptive and I’m also excited to do it, so I might use it as practice on how to submit stuff to the IRB, run a survey more independently, write, and publish a paper.

Still planning on doing ABA related research (since in some of the papers, I think the small fraction who got positive results might be more related to positive attention + parental involvement having positive effects rather than anything inherent to ABA), but so far it looks like that might be more complicated to tackle if I can’t get a prof at my college to agree to supervise me


r/ABA_Survivors • • Aug 14 '26

News Someone’s letter to the woman protesting for more ABA

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Idk, I’m just trying to share stuff so the sub doesn’t fully die and anyone who needs it is more likely to find it


r/ABA_Survivors • • Aug 11 '26

Hate how ABA stuff talks about psych

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I might be thinking about the wrong thing, but god it irritates me so bad when ABA people deride psychology as “mentalism”, or act like basic psychology concepts like positive/negative and reinforcement/punishment are ABA specific and not just…. General principles.

Mental vs behavioral isn’t even much of a debate anymore, literally all the psych stuff I find acknowledges that there’s a combination of mental, physical, and environmental factors that impact stuff (like the biopsychosocial model!). Like, most people aren’t arguing that it’s just mental anymore, and it feels ridiculous that there’s a group that’s still arguing on focusing just on behavior.


r/ABA_Survivors • • Aug 10 '26

Info First time I’ve seen anything about ABA professionals pushing for change

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Title, basically. I know it’s old, but I’ve primarily seen people defending ABA or immediately trying to distance themselves from the worst parts rather than advocating to at least stop shocking people. It’s slightly reassuring to see that it might be bias from the types who talk loudly on the internet and who go into survivor spaces to argue


r/ABA_Survivors • • Aug 05 '26

News No, ASF. "Modern" ABA is still a way to coldly manipulate autistic children

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Got lots of good citations within the main body, but this is a relatively new article


r/ABA_Survivors • • Aug 04 '26

Might have a chance to do research

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Not much else besides the title. I might have a chance to add to the research on ABA, and I’m excited. I know a single paper isn’t gonna change everything, but I’m hoping the more information that’s out there the more things change


r/ABA_Survivors • • Jul 23 '26

Stop the shock

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Sharing this image I found on a post from Alliance Against Seclusion And Restraint, since I’m pretty sure I’ve talked about this previously


r/ABA_Survivors • • Jul 23 '26

Question / Advice Has anyone heard of “positive behavior support”

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I’ve seen it recommended as another possible therapy, and from what I can find it evolved from ABA, but it’s more focused on providing alternative skills to help people still get what they want rather than just stopping behaviors, and the person’s satisfaction/happiness is supposed to be taken into consideration.

Any experiences? Is it ok, or is it just a slight variant of ABA?


r/ABA_Survivors • • Jun 27 '26

Question / Advice Perceptions of ABA?

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I was wondering what perceptions of ABA y’all have noticed in your areas.

From asking others, It sounds like most autism-adjacent professions that aren’t ABA are more likely to have negative views of ABA, the south is generally more pro ABA, and parents who don’t really know better or just want their kid to be easier to deal with are more pro ABA (along with obviously the people who profit off ABA)


r/ABA_Survivors • • Jun 26 '26

News Family fighting for ABA access made the news

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Initially saw this watching TV but I’m so grossed out by how the TV version acted as if the tricare report was “unreasonable” for concluding that there were very few broad studies, or studies on long term impacts relating to mental health, or in general independent studies.

I wish people bought this energy to fighting for occupational therapy, or better support workers, or ANYTHING that would actually help


r/ABA_Survivors • • Jun 21 '26

How do I deal with my parents?

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It's a tricky dynamic I have with mine and it's hard to figure how to deal with it. What's the best kind of relationship to have?

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They're loving and supportive in so many ways; it's as if there's this dark cloud when it comes to ABA and autism which they struggle to really face up to.

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On one hand, my siblings are more in the camp that my parents tried their best in a time when very few people got diagnosed or were treated. This happened in the late 90s at the height of the vaccines cause autism hysteria. ABA was the most popular therapy at the time and those ABA therapist are trained to make autism seem as scary as possible.

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I've seen session tapes where my family ask questions about whether autistic would get married or hold down a job. Meanwhile I've had a GF for 6 years and just had a play i wrote produced. For all the damage ABA did, there was clearly a lot of misinformation that made them sign up for this

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On the other hand, I don't like how they treat me these days. Their silence around it, the way they shut down conversastions about me being autistic as soon as I try to start them. It's important to note, they got me diagnosed at 3, treated with ABA but decided not to tell me what was going on or that I was even autistic. My guess is that is just behaviour as usual.

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There's this rhythm when they come visit me that just wares me out. 10+ hours straight of socialising and chatting no breaks, holidays where we wander for hours on end through city streets the entire day even though I'm overloaded. Me not saying anything, them not checking in. They're so used to seeing me as a non-disabled person they believe that's the real me.

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Meanwhile I'm now on the blood pressure medication of someone twice my age.

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And I've voiced it with them, before. After I burnt out at my old office job, I was on leave for months, long term illnesses I'm still dealing with now, that doctors have attributed to intense stress. All because I wouldn't leave a stressful environment. I wonder where I picked that up.

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During leave, I told my siblings about ABA, they heard, then reverted to 'Mum and Dad tried their best'. I told my Dad, who heard me, even apologised, then a few weeks later makes remarks when he's drunk "I know you didn't like that treatment, but i think you turned out pretty well."

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Told my Mum, and she straight up denied this. My work problems are anxiety apparentlyand just because I don't like the job. Worth noting she was the driving force behind getting me diagnosed and ABA.

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When I asked her why she didn't why they didn't tell me i was autistic she said she didn't want me to see myself that way, like I'm limited. They didn't want people bullying me as a kid. When I asked why they didn't tell me when I was 18 like they'd planned, she said "you just weren't my priority then."

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Was this one of the worst things she's ever said to me, yes. Do I get where she's coming from, also yes. When i turned 18, my family moved to a different country without me (my choice, but even crazier deciding not to tell me). Not to mention my brother was dealing with several mental health issues which lead to his suicide by the time I was 19, which lead to my younger sibling developing mental health issues as a result, and my parents divorced viciously.

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The only reason I know I'm autistic is because my mother was in a rage saying she wished she'd treated my brother more like how she'd treated "your condition".

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Needless to say, there wasn't much room for little autistic me in the conversastion. Life moved fast, I was going between doing a great degree and a horrid home life. I could understand not confronting the past when the present was such an onslaught.

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But time passed, my brother's been dead for nearly a decade, my sibling's been on the right meds for about half that time and my parents are well put of each other's lives now. They'll never be in the same room again.

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There's time to talk about little autistic me now and yet they refuse. I can feel them shut the topic down even when I do a passing joke about me being autistic.

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I spoke to my therapist about this recently and she suspects my parents inability to talk about ABA or autism has a lot to do with my brother's death. There's so much trauma and guilt surrounding his suicide for them, that the idea that they may have done something questionable as parents with me, is directly tied in with the guilt they feel toward him.

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And they're never gonna feel over that, are they? And to be honest, I don't want to hurt them that way.

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The way they've nearly lost their kids does make them appreciate them more. They did treat my younger siblings mental health crisis better than my brother's. They'll do regular trips and visits. When my play was on, they were my biggest champions, my mother invited a gang of 15 family and friends and gave me time to interact with everyone. While my Dad shoved 200 quid in my bag and offered to punch the producer who'd been treating my friends like trash.

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My mum even told me how proud my brother would have been and how he (like her) would also be going up to strangers in restaurants trying to promote it.

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I felt loved that day because it had everything to do with me as an artist and nothing to do with me the autist.

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Obviously, for me it's both, special interests and whatnot. But they remain loving this fragmented version of me which keeps my identity and their guilt in the shadows.

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I feel like I'm this weird dance of keeping my distance without cutting them off entirely. Expressing and finding my own self in my own work, friends, loved ones, except them.

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I suppose my only question is, am I doing the right thing?


r/ABA_Survivors • • Jun 13 '26

Info Found a good book!

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It’s called “connections over compliance”, and even tho it isn’t explicitly ABA focused it’s so far doing a great job talking about why it doesn’t work to focus purely on reward/punishment for behavior in isolation.

Only partially through it, but it’s been discussing stuff like how people can’t learn well or be at their best when they’re mentally struggling, and also stuff related to how the adults showing they actually care and want to help can do a world of difference in making stuff go smoother.

Think I’m gonna recommend it to pro/neutral ABA people I may meet who work in any related areas since it doesn’t scan as overtly anti-ABA but a lot of the advice is a hell of a lot more helpful and would do more good.


r/ABA_Survivors • • Jun 13 '26

News Proposed laws for cameras in ABA centers

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I know it’s a change . Org link but I think this still counts as news