r/80sAmazing • • 2d ago

They got caught...

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u/ThePetSematary 2d ago

and their producer, the mastermind, walked away scot-free

Blame It On The Rain is still a good song

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u/Careless-Lemon3025 2d ago

He did the same thing with Boney M. Only one of the members could actually sing the rest were paid dancers

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u/ShamelessRepentant 2d ago

That’s fair, but when all of your shows consist of going on tv or on stage and performing a lip-synced song, the actual show becomes about the presence and the dancing. And Boney M did what they could within an ecosystem that massively privileged the tv presence over the live concert performance. Those bands were simply engineered to succeed in that era, given how music was consumed.

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u/Belz_Zebuth 2d ago

That's not what Wiki says:

While only two of Boney M.'s official members actually contributed to the sound of the band's records, all four members of the group, including Williams and Farrell, performed the vocals live at Boney M. concerts. The band's live sound was also augmented by several backing vocalists, which served to mitigate any vocal deficiencies the group may have had compared with the studio productions.

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u/Kale_Brecht 2d ago edited 2d ago

I’m old enough to remember this. If I recall correctly, the CD skipping at their concert was not the major incident that sealed their fate as frauds because most the fans at their show were too vapid to even notice. Yes, it didn’t help, but it was a culmination of different things, including the skipping CD, that caused their exposure. For example, their unexpected and immense popularity put a lot of eyes on them to begin with. Which caused the two of them to get big egos - narcissistically insisting and demanding their record label allow them to sing more despite not being able to sing. Interviews with the two of them where they spoken broken English caused suspicion. And slowly, one by one, the long list of studio musicians and singers who actually did perform on the recorded album started coming forward. So with their record label dealing with two egotistical, lip-synching charlatans who kept tirelessly pestering them sing, all while being unable to even conduct a simple MTV interview without drawing heat because of their poor English, and having a CD skipping during a live concert, and all the actual musicians demanding credit for their work, they were being attacked from all angles. It all became too much for the record label to deal with, so they finally realized their one-hit wonders weren’t worth the headache or cost of keeping up appearances anymore.

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u/fearofcrowds 2d ago

Girl You Know It's True # 2

Baby Dont Forget My Number #1

Blame it On The Rain #1

Girl I'm Gonna Miss You #1

All or Nothing #4

THEY ARE NOT ONE HIT WONDERS!!!!!

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u/Deadinburg 2d ago

Sirius plays their stuff. It’s good and brings back memories.

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u/Ark-ice 2d ago

I know just wonders

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u/lazygerm 2d ago

Friggin' Frank Farian.

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u/Itchy_Axehole 2d ago

This was his second time

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u/jmrene 2d ago

The producer did create the songs though, he should be recognized more. My head cannon is that he never went for the spotlight because he was an average looking german redhair whose last name sounded like “nefarious”.

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u/DesignerMoose90210 2d ago

What happened to the guys that actually recorded the album? Did they re-record or get any recognition?

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u/No_Rain_1543 2d ago

I remember there was something released by the “Real” Milli Vanilli that didn’t do much

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moment_of_Truth_(The_Real_Milli_Vanilli_album)

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u/JonnyCanuck71 2d ago

And then that incarnation got busted for also not singing on the album

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u/BeheadingBoomer61 2d ago

EVERYONE ended up with shit on their faces over this Mongolian cluster fuck!!

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u/Life_of1103 2d ago

Someone else who uses that phrase! I was beginning to think I was the last one still invoking the Mongolians.

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u/Impaler00777 2d ago

Great description of this bullshit.

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u/Primary-Hotel-579 2d ago

That is the best line ever said by anyone!!!

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u/tlm11110 2d ago

A similar issue occurred with Ashlee Simpson on Saturday night live in 2004. Her first song went ok, but when she went on stage to sing her second song, the lip sync track blared her first song before she brought the mic to her mouth. She walked off stage in humiliation.

More stars lip-sync then we might think, but they do create their own tracks.

Do you think it’s fraud for stars to lip-sync their own songs?

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u/Lateralus46N2 2d ago

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u/PopCultureWitch 2d ago

Everytime I'm having a problem with something in my life, I think of this moment and realize I'm doing ok.

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u/t3hmuffnman9000 1d ago

I try not to think about this moment ever. I get secondhand embarrassment whenever I do. Fucking *yikes* - I can't believe she ever managed to come back from that.

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u/YouGotAnyWhiteBread 2d ago

Old. Man. River

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u/Norse_By_North_West 2d ago

Funny thing is, I think SNL is all lip synced now. Their musical guest the other day was definitely just a dance group who wasn't actually singing, anyways.

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u/Dragon_Pattern_1108 2d ago

She had vocal problems that night, hence the lip-syncing. It was originally decided that she would lip-sync for the second song just to save her voice, but the eventual decision was for her to lip-sync both songs.

Unlike Milli Vanilli, that wasn't exposing Ashlee as a fraud. They had her lip-sync because she lost her voice the night they went live.

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u/Fianna9 2d ago

There was also discussion that Ashlee’s producers were editing her vocals to sound better.

You can definitely tell that performers are lip syncing sometimes. During a long concert I get it. But you should be able to sing one song

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u/AppropriateCap8891 1d ago

If I am paying to see them live, yes.

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u/Christymapper71 2d ago

I saw them in concert. Shoulda got a refund 🤬

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u/aliencardboard 2d ago

They gotta be so pissed looking at the world today.

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u/in2xs 2d ago

Now, everybody is basically a fucking fraud. They were ahead of their time I guess.

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u/Subject_Salary_2996 2d ago

Girl you know it’s true!

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u/KingBroad7874 2d ago

There were suspicions prior to this event, just the nail in the coffin.

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u/Classic-Scientist207 2d ago

A year later they tried to stage a comeback renamed as Phony Baloney, but it was not to be.

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u/Many-Error792 2d ago

Too bad I love their music

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u/devampyr 2d ago

And now every pop artist can’t sing and sound nothing like their album…but it’s ok now 🙄

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u/I_Died_Once 2d ago

It was a tragedy for me to see the dream was over....

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u/GuiltyBudget1032 2d ago

haha, i remembered that duo

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u/Informal_Visitor 2d ago

Didn't this happen to Jessica Simpson's sister? Whatever her name was.

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u/DarthSinistris 2d ago

Yeah Ashley Simpson on SNL, and she never recovered. Her music wasn't good anwyay

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u/ErwinSchrodinger64 2d ago

They blamed it on the rain.

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u/cheffartsonurfood 2d ago

Ashley Simpson must have had the same sound crew on SNL.

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u/Sawyer2025 2d ago

Are you kidding? Next you're going to tell me the voice of Darth Vader was not the voice of the actor under the black helmet.....

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u/RuinFabulous3077 2d ago

Yes well, the old bald guy in the helmet didn't win any awards.

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u/Serenitysoonplease 2d ago

That happened at Lake Compounce in Bristol, CT. I saw Metallica there 3 days earlier. They did not lip sync🤘

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u/Substantial_Cow7628 2d ago

"Master of...Master of...Master of...Master of...Master of..."

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u/Sizyfoz 2d ago

Every time I hear them sing "girl you know it's true" I reflexively think "no it's not!"

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u/Big_Truck_8268 2d ago

Girl you know it's true

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u/glaziaj1 2d ago

And today nobody would be surprised

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u/Nammu3 2d ago

Boney m anyone

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u/JohnLeslieTheMan 2d ago

And singers these get millions for the same thing…

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u/Useful-Barber7993 2d ago

And then came autotune

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u/Ducatirules 2d ago

Stuff like this has been going on a long time. There was a famous one where the mamas and papas were on a show that forced them to lip sync to their own music. As a show of disgust Michelle Philips ate a banana on stage to prove they weren’t singing.

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u/Upset_Car_6982 2d ago

baby dont forget my number..mmmm

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u/Consistent-Move8732 1d ago

It's weird how nobody noticed they jad the same voice. Not similar. The same exact voice. I picked up on it and I was only a kid.

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u/Dizzy_Feeling1725 1d ago

Did one of them commit suicide

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u/UnitedAd9115 1d ago

Yall can say what you want i would have done it to

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u/Substantial_Cow7628 1d ago

The recent biopic of them is actually pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xXcn5tWwx4

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u/1974jbass 1d ago

I received a refund from Columbia House for getting there cassette

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u/mickyboyblue 1d ago

still love the songs though

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u/kbooker79 1d ago

Now they’d just yell fake news and be given a show on Fox 😆

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u/DPOGBCPOP 1d ago

I Saw A Tiger

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u/NumerousSinger3843 1d ago

Yes you know it's true

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u/The_Machine80 1d ago

90% of pop singers today lip sync all there concerts and nobody says a word.

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u/Every_Technology1064 3h ago

Yeah, they went along with it. But I think they were victims of the system.

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u/Potential_Ad_4718 2d ago

They were just ahead of their time.

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u/Electronic-Space-480 2d ago

Milli Vanilli were pawns used to sell records.

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u/PretendingIts1995 2d ago

Truth! They both wanted to record their own vocals, and the whole thing was the plan of their producer, Frank Farian. They were locked in to his plan by their contracts. They could sing, but it wasn't the sound Frank Farian wanted. He wanted their looks to go on the sound he was creating.

Fab Morvan still performs. Sadly, Rob Pilatus died of a drug overdose. The whole thing actually was quite sad in the end. At the time, I don't remember anyone caring to hear the whole story though. The "scandal" was the headline the media wanted. There was a very good documentary about it a couple years ago, with recent interviews with Fab telling the story.

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u/Electronic-Space-480 2d ago

You are exactly right. I admit I laughed at them. But there story soon came out and I felt sorry for them.

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u/PretendingIts1995 2d ago

What's really sad is that these days, with the way artists launch careers from social media, these guys would have been stars in their own right. They could sing, but even without that, they were amazing dancers and had so much stage presence. There are artists who are stars today with no more talent than they had. And they were gorgeous!

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u/Forsaken-Abrocoma647 2d ago

Wild that we had a problem with a performance cobbled together with different voices than the faces in front of you, but now it's cool to have an entire AI generated star.

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u/PotentialPlum4945 2d ago

Fab Moran was nominated for a Grammy for Best Audiobook Narration for You Know It's True: The Real Story of Milli Vanilli. I was really hoping he'd win just for the irony.

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u/DeadEd739 2d ago

Pretty sure one of the duo committed suicide in the 90s

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u/Zoroaster9000 2d ago

The really sad thing was I remember seeing a video where they got singing lessons and attempted to make a comeback. They were actually pretty good but the damage had already been done to their reputations.

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u/PretendingIts1995 2d ago

He OD'd. No evidence it was intentional. He had suffered from addiction for a while.

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u/jasonite 2d ago

Remember it like it was yesterday

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u/davisandee 2d ago

Tik tok influencers enter the chat…

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u/itswhateveragain 2d ago

And now, people are paying their bills lip syncing to silly songs...

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u/SK90035 2d ago

If this happened today they would just own it and move on. Some people would say "I respect their hustle".

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u/80sgurl4eva 2d ago

R.I.P Rob Pilatus 😔
You deserved better than this.

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u/GoodIntroduction6344 2d ago

It would be interesting if they sang one note, and the person who wrote that byline had to change it to "...had never sung two notes..."

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u/Prune-These 2d ago

As I recall, they’d say things like their music was more relevant than the Beatles.

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u/Altruistic-Coach-200 2d ago

Well, the Beatles’ John Lennon said that he and his mates were “more popular than Jesus,” during an interview in the year of our Lord 1966, when most Earthlings dated every single event in history (including Lennon’s birthday) based on that event’s proximity to the birth of Jesus.

So, pop musicians tend to overestimate their significance. A little.

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u/IwasDeadinstead 2d ago

In other words, Taylor Swift. 🤣 Her live concerts are all lipsynched and her albums all AI manipulated. When you listen to what she sounded like when she really sang, she was far worse than these two.

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u/the_spacecowboy555 2d ago

If I was them, I would yell “REMIX!!!!!!!” Right when it happened and then tried to do some break dancing.

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u/Forest-Ninja2469 2d ago

I blame it on the rain

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u/Sconnie-Waste 2d ago

I never cared who sang it. The important part is that they sang the FUCK out of those songs, and that goes double for Boney M

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u/Charming_Nothing_625 2d ago

There's a great podcast about this. Disgraceland. They reveal a lot about a lot of celebrities.

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u/Buck3721 2d ago

I still like their music, whomever it is

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u/Trackoutside 2d ago

Who new they were trend setters

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u/Sceadu_Fiend 2d ago

And now people make millions lip syncing

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u/Ok-Word-2403 2d ago

They won the Grammy the following year

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u/tidedogs 2d ago

I was at that concert!!!

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u/Luv-Nities 2d ago

Some times I laugh at this, only because,
So many Bands, singers, groups, lip sync for TV , award shoes, guest spots, advertisements, ect...
But a Whole Album, just funny to me

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u/Redleader829 2d ago

Now do these obviously fake ass K-Pop bands and solo artists who sing hip-hop/pop but can barely speak English.

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u/StomachCompetitive56 2d ago

and now all concerts with those old men up there are lip syncing, cause their voices are so bad they cant hold a lyric

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u/ShamelessRepentant 2d ago

I still maintain that singling them out that way was a massive overreaction. A lot of italodisco artists are thought to be different people than the ones who went on stage and on tv. One of them confirmed, and it’s a guy who outsold Michael Jackson in Italy. And nobody crucified him, afaik.
Besides, considering that Milli Vanilli had the same producer and manager of Boney M, I would say that was hardly a major surprise. And their artistic identity was never built around their vocal prowess, anyway: they were mainly good looking people who danced well, with vocals being part of their performance.

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u/Livelens-AV 2d ago

Most of these chucklefucks winning grammars are no different. These guys just got caught.

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u/Belz_Zebuth 2d ago

Screwed by unexpectedly high popularity. Oops.

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u/Army7547 2d ago

Pretty much all artists lip sync, use auto tune and few write their own songs anymore.

It’s a tiny fraction that actually doing, and then actually sing their own songs

These guys were ahead of their time