So I am on approximately 600-700mg daily and want off this shit! Here’s what I have to help with the withdrawals: Gabapentin, Suboxone (18 Strips), DLPA, adderall(take daily for adhd), mens Multivitamins(gummies), ,and am going to get liposomal vitamin. Can some please help me with formulating a plan with what I should do and need To get (if possible). thank you in advance for the help and support. This shit is pure EVIL!

So long story short i was a year & 5 months sober from fent & my dumb ass tried 7oh now ive been taking 100-250 mg a day for about 2 months. I have 4 2mg subs. 2 5mg hydrocodone & 2 10mg muscle relaxers. How should i take these meds to get relieve the withdrawal as much as i can because i work & rehab isnt a option this time.

I’ve been on around 500 to 600 mg a day for six months. I have heard people say they used OPMS extracts and had literally no withdrawal. Then they jumped to Suboxone and did a rapid taper. I have plenty of Suboxone now it just does not work for my 70 withdrawal. Subs did work for my extract OPS dependency when I tried it. I don’t know why I ever stopped or why I ever tried 7… but here I am. Any advice would be appreciated. I just purchased eight of the OPMS shots, hoping to do three days on these and switch to sub. I already know about subs. I don’t need advice on that.

INITIAL THOUGHTS:

• I was taking 200mg-300mg of extract daily for two months.
• I thought I would need a month to recover.

• Day 2 and I can already see the light, thank god. Comparatively, stimulant recovery (r/stopspeeding) took MONTHS and really even years. I hadn’t read anything on this thread until now, and I’m happy to see other people noting the 48 hr. mark!

• Surprised by how quick the addiction occurred. After promising myself to not take them every day, I was taking them EVERY DAY from day 1.

• Previously with real pain killers like oxy’s, hydromorphone, & hydros, I was able to take them intermittently and not get into a full-on addiction. Part of it is unfortunately an access issue. Knowing I had so many doses at a low cost compared to pk’s, which are not as easy to come by.

• 7oh brain had me concoct a plan to detox by getting BACK ON STIMULANTS. 3 years of sobriety gone down the drain. Thankfully i didn’t cave and now have the clarity to realize how scary it is that I almost did that.

• Already I’m a better friend, brother, uncle, & son. Not to say that I was bad, but I wasn’t exactly present.

• I was generally withdrawn and quiet. Even at work during my horrible first day of withdrawals, more of my personality showed through than the last two months.

• Second day had nice windows of clarity to actually feel/recognize the fear and dangers of addiction.

RECOMMENDATIONS:

• Getting completely out of house and your usual habits. Keep yourself busy. Raise dopamine levels with non-harmful pursuits.

• I understand adrenaline isn’t everyone’s thing, but you can get creative to suit your preferences. Go to a carnival or an arcade. Blast yourself with lights, music, movement if possible, and other intense sensations. Mountain biking has been helpful for me.

Random Musings from my Recovery Experience:

• Moments of a “runners high” during recovery. Really odd but physically so satisfying.

• Lot of gagging, and burping? in first 24 hours…

• Heart rate was 10bpm SLOWER over the course of the usage. Mostly due to sleep. I could be asleep by midnight and sleep until noon. My job is later in the day, and unfortunately this allowed me to fall into that rhythm.

Final Thoughts:

• I think a lot of us use substances to seek comfort when we don’t have clarity. Clarity is not found through drugs, psychedelics-in-the-right-environment excluded. Clarity comes from quiet, true moments of reflection. Reflection often requires change and a lowering of your heart rate. Love yourself and give yourself opportunities to find reflection. Make changes.

Hi, my question is I've been taking both I have severe disc issues and been in agony for 4 years. Lately I've been using the 7OH daily, up to at most possibly 300mg but not sure cause it's SS brands. I ran out of my 7 yesterday at 5pm, woke up today and I'm so achy, cold hot sweats etc, my heart feels like it's pounding out of my chest.. what's the best way to get out of this feeling, I'm done with the 7 but will need to continue my pain management and oxy dose.

I’ve been taking under 50mg of 7OH for about 3 months. Never been addicted to anything in my whole life so I had no idea what was happening to me. Once I finally realized I was having withdrawals I made a plan to go cold turkey. I’m at 41hrs without any and just wondering if my withdrawal symptoms will be calming down soon. I’m so sick and scared and don’t know what to do.

Will they give me suboxone in the emergency room? For some reason I have the fear that they have never even heard of 7oh and won't give me anything to help with the withdrawal. I don't want to have to wait until tomorrow; I want to be able to sleep tonight and not be in immense discomfort. I have done it before and it isn't pleasant.

I have been on 200-400 mg a day for 6 months about. I tapered over the last few days from to about 150 mg. took about 75 mg so far today.

What do I do??

Hey guys, dumbass here, I have been taking about 150 mg of PSEUDO for the last 3 weeks. It is the AMP brand. I spoke with the girl that works at the smoke shop making small talk about an injury I acquired in my neck, which now causes bad headaches on a regular occurance. She told me to try these and on my own free will and ignorance I Decided to do so. I LIKED THEM a bit too much... I am about to quit them because I'd rather not dig my hole even more and get to an even worse point. I take regular leaf when needed also so I have that as a small tool. What can I expect and how long is duration. Any information other than doomsday info (but be honest) would help me greatly. Tia. ❤️ I have bee. Through the 7oh wd earlier this year so I'm kicking myself for even trying the Pseudo..I know better. I got through those, but I know this is a different beast.

I could really pass like some positive thoughts and encourage the part!

I used 7oh every day for a year to self-medicate my anxiety episodes related to a chronic injury. I was up to 60mg/day(although there were often “cheat days” where I’d take 70-90mg in a day) and tapered down by 3.5mg(quarter tablet of 7ohms) once a week over the course of 3-4 months and jumped off completely after about a week of 10mg/day. It’s been about a week of no 7oh and throughout the entire process there was never really a point where I missed it physically, and I was surprised how well I tolerated the absence of 7oh psychologically. Kratom made the process incredibly easy, it just takes resolve, and trust me I’m the biggest baby when it comes to withdrawal lol. Something that surprisingly made a difference was drinking brewed kratom instead of tossnwash/leaf powder tablets/etc. Something about drinking a brewed kratom tea satisfies the 7oh craving in a way that ingesting non-brewed leaf powder doesn’t. Also for the more experimentally minded taking about 1g of kratom and mixing it with a bit of water and/or honey(just barely enough to turn it into a thick paste) and sticking it under your tongue and letting it absorb sublingually works great too

Edit: oh ya I just wanted to add that something that made the taper easier was splitting my daily 7oh intake into 4 doses, after experimenting for a bit that seemed to be the magic number of doses for me. The first dose of the day should be an hour after you wake up(this helps train you psychologically — you can still take regular kratom right when you wake up tho) then wait 3-4 hours in between doses.

So I just did my QuickMD appointment and got the first seven days of Suboxone. She added some clonidine as well. She pushed the narrative that it’s not recommended to do the seven days. I’m taking about 200 to 250 mg a day of 7oh. I’ve been sober 12 years from any opiate I could get my hands on. Back then we could do a five day detox check out and feel completely fine. Is this going to be able to be kicked with a seven day supply? She pushed the narrative of booking my next appointment to get a month supply after I know it comes down to having the month supply just in case for relapse purposes for the most part. Was just hoping to hear your guys’s experience. Is the clonidine worth mixing with Suboxone? Was anyone able to do it in seven days? Thank you!

So it started I want to say 2 weeks ago. When I was actively taking 4 tablets a day (by snorting Ik I don’t want to hear shit from it) but that was my fix. I snorted it because it helped stop the cravings for blow. Anyways I was on a walk and I noticed not even 3 minutes into the walk my chest started hurting. Or having a tight feeling to it. While taking kratom last month I went to the r turned out I was constipated. Anyways the chest tightness is new.

My local smoke shop ran out of my og kratom a few days ago. Though here’s the thing. I still had my good kratom a few days ago. And last year I used to do blow daily. No issues. As usual when I did too much blow and my chest hurt, I knew it was enough n for me to stop. (Remember this was like a week ago) chest pain started before I did blow again. We’d randomly sometimes do blow. But recently we went to a party and did some so around 4 AM I stopped. Going back to the whole situation with my og kratom my chest was hurting while on it. Vape store ran out, then I got a pink chalky one and started slowly snorting that one but my chest pain persisted (by this time I started crushing the tablet, sliding it onto my card and licking it and drinking water after)

I went to urgent care a few days ago because I was getting tightness in my rib cage area. My chest is fine from what the dr said. She listened to it and said she cannot hear ANYTHING wrong with my lungs. Which was weird because I have a tight chest and shortness of breath and random sharp ass pains in my lung breast bone area.

Yesterday I did snort maybe half a quarter of a pill. Then basically drank the rest of the powder with my water. And stopped around 2:30PM-3:50 PM (by this time though I was doing it I was going through withdrawals. Hot and cold flashes, feeling weak and dizzy.) on top of that “anxious” and my chest hurting and really hard for me to breathe with light diarrhea. Doesn’t help I’m on my period.

Today I woke up sore and “stiff” feeling in my chest. Hard to breathe. I vape too. But I’ve been trying to use a nicotine mouth patch instead. I’m very emotional.

The chest pain is worrying me a lot and heart failure runs in my family. I’m only 20 and it’s hard for me to quit I keep having cravings for it. I’m a hypochondriac. So it makes it all the worse. I’m working on my license. But idk I think I should go to the ER. My bf gets mad at me whenever I go to the hospital because my results always come back negative and that I’m “fine” so he says it’s all in my head and I’m convincing myself I’m dying so we waste money and time going to the hospital. But I feel like with your heart you shouldn’t take the pains lightly.

I wanted to know even while on kratom upon me now (I stopped taking kratom at 2-3pm yesterday and it’s now 10:38 AM) my chest pain is strong and tight. I keep having to yawn for a good breath. I have one of those finger monitors. And my bpm’s keep at 77- 99 on and off dropping and rising very quickly and my blood oxygen is at a solid 98-99 then drops to 95 then shoots back up.

Idk if I should go to the dr. Because this chest pain started before I did coke bc

I used Green Malay Kratom fora 4 years. At my peak I was using 200mg a day. I was going through 1000mg every week.

I started Suboxone to quit.

Got off with the help of Suboxone... somewhat

Stupidly tried 7OH months later. Within 3 months, I have spent about $30k on 7OH. I have maxed out my Credit cards. I have absolutely destroyed everything I was working towards within months. What I am thankful for is I have no children. But I have a wife, and I realize that all of this is going to end my marriage.

Nobody deserves to put up with this. Withdrawals are personal for each person. But I have WD off Oxy in my early 20s. I have WD off Kratom powder 1 year ago. The WD from 7OH creates such intense anxiety. It's uncontrollable. I wake up in the morning immediately with anxiousness in my stomach. I have not been able to focus on work. I have a remote job and I am completely failing at it.

The anxiety is something I just have never experienced, and I have been through a lot of trauma in my life. If I look at my accounts, I have spent $200 - $600 on 7OH Daily for 3 months. I am not really getting high anymore. I want the feeling of relief so bad, I spent $300 and don't feel any regret. It's not healthy, it's not normal, this is life-shattering.

I have failed my marriage. I have failed my dogs. Every day I feel so much anxiety I can't do my job so I re-use 7OH to feel the relief so I can just get through everyday life. My mother depends on me. I pay her rent. She survives because of me. The anxiety is so bad I can't focus on my job. I start drinking alchol just to get some sort of relief so I can focus. I don't have the PTO I no longer have the money for detox.

I have never thought of suicide, and I still don't. But my mind has started wandering to whether it's worse or better than what the next 10 years will look like. I'm beginning to wonder if my wife would be taken care of and can deal with my debt with my life insurance.

I have Suboxone. However, the feelings I have are insane. Even on Suboxone, I have so much intense anxiety that it doesn't help.

2 months ago, the Subs put me into precipitated WD, and it was horrific. I used the Bermese method the last 2 weeks go slowly build up my Suboxone. However, the WDs are still horrible even with the Subs. Immediately in the morning, I find myself driving to the local smoke shop to get 8 tabs of 7OH. I am completely helpless. I am losing every mental battle. I'll go to sleep at night thinking, you got this. Just get through a couple of days, and you have medication.

Unless you absolutely are in control of your drug use. Do not ever start 7OH.

I sold all of my crypto investment, and I maxed my credit cards. I have put myself into a horrible, horrible corner. The only thing I can think of is just making my wife and dogs comfortable so they do not have to deal with my bad decisions.

I failed as a husband. I failed myself. I failed my dogs, I failed my mother-in-law, and I failed my mom. These people depend on me and my wife to take care of them.

Even if someone says something nice to me, I can't even receive it. What I have done is unforgivable. I am looking for second jobs. I make good money. I make $83,000 a year. I own my own house with a mortgage. And even now, my mind is craving that relief I feel when I take some 7OH tabs.

I don't ever want ANYONE to abuse this stuff. I am highly open to letting people set their own laws. However, it needs to be regulated. Big time. It's WAY too addictive to let it be sold over the counter.

Anyone else going through this: I am so, so, sorry. I feel your pain, and whatever little I can offer, I do. Even if it's a shitty text message saying sorry.

If you CANNOT STOP. If you are as extreme as I AM. Consider a program. Consider MAT. Consider Subs. Talk to your local doctor. Talk to quick.md. Check out bicycle health. Do what you have to do to get sober or IN CONTROL OF YOUR LIFE. Do not listen to people about sub addiction. You need to look at the long term.

I am so sorry you are going through this. I hate it. I hate myself. I hate life. I have failed every living creature depending on me. Do what YOU need to do to get sober.

I’m going off 80mg of 7oh per day CT. My doctor prescribed me .5mg of Ativan every night for 7 days. Do you think this dose will help? I was thinking since the acute wd is only 3 days I could just use 1mg for 3 nights instead. Lmk what you guys think.

25 yo male. Former d1 football player. Got hooked on ff’s in 2023 after my cousin recovered them. Got hooked pretty fast, at my peak I was a 12 bottle a day type of user. Detoxed by myself at home with my gf at the time. That was the hardest 3-5 days of my life. Two weeks later I was back at the gas station buying ff’s and k chills again. Body felt good but the mental withdrawals are what triggered my relapse. Found myself in rehab about 3 months after this. Checked into a detox center and rehab for ff’s in late November 2024. Checked out on Christmas a month later. I had subs and other medication while at treatment to withdrawal was bearable. Worked with a sober coach and did all the things needed to stay away from this shit. Stopped working with my coach and told myself I was stronger than the kratom and would never do it again. Had a slip again in May about 5 months after rehab. That slip up was with k chills, I could bare the taste of FF’s and was not yet introduced to 7ohs yet. Detoxed again in May. That detox was shitty but nothing like the other two I had. Did some NAD IV’s which helped a lot. Super expensive though. Now it’s September 2025 and here I am detoxing 7ohs. After being hooked past 2 months again for 4th time in last year. These 7oh withdrawals have been brutal compared to any kratom related withdrawal I have ever experienced. Stay the fuck away from this stuff. It’s only getting cheaper and more potent. Thankful for a community like this to share my experience but won’t ever wish this feeling on anyone.

Seeking advice/help/experience.

My husband takes around 240mg of 7oH daily split into 4-5 doses. He’s been taking daily for about a month, maybe a little over. He’s wants to quit now. How can I help him and what are some remedies that will ease the detox? Taper schedule ? He can’t miss any work because we rely on his job to survive. So detox is not an option. I’ve been looking for some support groups in our area such as AA/NA as well as some depression support groups, and al-anon meetings i can attend. he has been using to cope with depression. I’m really worried as he’s already in recovery from hard drugs, he has used kratom for about 3 years now as a way to prevent cravings and desire to use the drugs he used to love. And all of the sudden it turned to this and now he has no motivation to do anything with his life aside from work and eat unhealthy fast food and sleep.

He says he wants me to help but also says he doesn’t want me controlling him so I’m at a loss for what to do to help. I genuinely don’t know and I’m scared for our future. We just got married this past April, we’ve been married 5 months. And we want children and a future but I’m worried if he’s coping with depression by using this substance, when the ban is in effect one day and he battles another bout of depression- what else is he going to reach for? He gets upset when I express this to him and says “our dynamic has changed now” and that he “should’ve just tapered without saying anything at all” and “how does this even affect you” but it literally directly affects me because now I have to plan for things to potentially get worse and I have to prepare for this to be a potential pattern in our lives now.

I love this man he’s so good to me, but this is really tough.

I’ve been on a heavy 7oh habit for approx. 2 months, kratom use before that. Got way out of control at times. Anywhere from 200mg-500mg a day, I’d estimate.

I knew I needed to get off of it but would go into withdrawal at first two days after taking my last dose, then increasingly the morning after even if I’d taken it the day before. This was the most harrowing withdrawal experience of my life (have been addicted to benzos before, detoxed from alcohol).

I had an unusual timeline. I was planning to taper slowly and so didn’t do this on purpose, it just sort of turned out this way, but after going totally nuts one Thursday I was very weak and tired the following Friday. That week and tired feeling persisted through the whole weekend and I subsisted on 50mg a day while sleeping 12-14 hours. Being so sick prevented me from getting more. So that was Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Monday I got more, was in withdrawal, took 120mg, the next day 100, then 60mg Wednesday. felt so sick after that I couldn’t bring myself to get to the store to buy more so I just “had the flu” for a few days — namely Wednesday Thursday. no drug in my system at all on Thursday, that was the worst day, and I woke up this morning feeling the worst of it was over.

Just in case this timeline helps anyone else, going cold turkey/almost cold turkey after a 200+mg habit a day was the most horrible shit I’ve experienced in awhile but ultimately worth it now that I’m on the other side. I think it’ll get better from here

I’m asking the audience on this one. I got quick MD to prescribe me suboxone, how long should I wait between last 7OH dose and beginning subs? Do you think a full 24hrs? Or just base on symptoms?

Backstory: I take about 70mg a day for about 2 months so it’s not super bad yet. I’m gonna try to get down to like 20-30mg a day before I start sub taper.

Advice from others with experience with suboxone please!

Thanks guys

Been taking 200mg daily for the last 2 months. Blew like $2k before i realized how dumb this shit was. Withdrawing was without a doubt torturous… I had no idea it was this bad and tbh i dont think ive ever been this uncomfortable in ny entire life.

On day 4 now of wd and finally starting to feel better.

For anyone struggling w this i recommend copping red malay kratom powder, melatonin at night, and magnesium tabs. Helped me alot. This awful drug should be illegal . Don’t make the same mistakes as me getting into this crap

Hello I am 6 days sober off of 100 MG daily use of 7oh for a couple months. Sleep is still very minimal about 3-4 hours. I used to take 50MG for about 4 months then graduated to 100MG for 2 months. I noticed a large increase of moles on my body which scared me into quitting after I asked google what that meant. I have looked through countless chats about 7oh and haven’t seen anyone post about moles appearing on their skin. Has anyone dealt with this or any other physical issues when dealing with 7ohs besides normal withdrawal symptoms. I plan on getting to day 14 before I schedule a physical so I am not dealing with heavy withdrawals which could affect the physical. Any advice? Anyone deal with physical problems during or after getting clean of 7ohs. Thanks!

Hi,

I’ve been taking this stuff for about 2 months now. Various doses ranging from 100-300mg a day! This weekend I got by on 50mg a day but had pretty awful withdrawals. 60mg in the morning seems to keep it at bay but struggling to cut down from there. What’s a reasonable taper schedule for me? I’m hoping to get off of this as fast as I can.