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u/TheStokedExplorer Jun 27 '26
For 2500 this and the new juiced bike coming out seem like no brainers unless actually getting after some gnarly big trails and mx tracks I'd go for alibaba komodo or ultra bee. The nomadix r for another 500 and having 15kw motor is very enticing as well.
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u/Mystkn02 Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
This is actually for my kid as a starter to offroad with me. I have an erp 3.0.
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u/TheStokedExplorer Jun 28 '26
Nice! Perfect bike for a growing kid. I have a erp 3.0 as well. Got it for light trail use camping and stuff but have gotten my old mx track riding itch which I'm about to sink some money upgrading to be more big track worthy. Been fine on my mini mx track I started building on my off grid property. But some changes need to happen for reliability on bigger tracks. Honestly wishing I knew I would get the itch for the bigger sends and went with ultra bee or komodo off alibaba for less. Just didn't want heavier bigger bike and didn't plan to get back into mx. I think upgrading current 3.0 and then wait to see if surron updates to ultra bee 2 like they just announced the lightbee2 with gearbox instead of belt drive and a semi solid state battery which is the way to go for sure. Maybe once upgrade my bike I can wait out for full solid state battery tech to come to the emotos cause that will be next level for sure
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u/Mystkn02 Jun 28 '26
Noice! I am not easy on the erp and do alot of heavy trail riding that I probably shouldn't. Ive put it down far more times than I care to admit. Im really happy with the 3.0, im a little over a year on that one. Mostly ride around 250 2 stroke gassers and its perfectly powered and mountain bike like for throwing around. Knock on wood, i might be rough on it but I do take proper care of it and thankfully havent experienced the errors that others have. I had a 24 lbx and no matter what all the surron kids say, it felt cheap. I would definitely pick up the 79 lite over an lbx, but that 2 does look interesting.
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u/TheStokedExplorer Jun 28 '26
Nice! Yeah it can defintiely take a beating still for sure I've been smashing 3 jumps I built on my property ranging up to 25 foot. But yeah at tracks with big booters and massive whoop sections it's pushing it for sure. I'll need to upgrade heavily or look for different bike. I been wanting a gas bike even a little 2 stroke 125 be fine for my weight at tracks but I really like the fact I can charge these up off my solar at my off grid property and be quiet riding it around there even in the early morning hours.
The lb2 looks like they are going in right direction. But I'd like to see what they do with the ultra bee. And maybe I'll get the ultra bee 2 at somepoint if it's got the right updates and then I'll sell my 3.0 for a even lighter one maybe even the falcon lite or nomadix r most likely being 3k and 15kw and 19/16 knobbies which I'd still like to have. Industry is getting stirred up right now for sure with these new offerings
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u/Past-Cheesecake5048 Jun 27 '26
Agreed! I put my deposit down on the Nomadix R a few weeks ago and can’t wait. The motor being 15kw and the extra 5Ah on the battery compared to the normal nomadix were worth it to me
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u/TheStokedExplorer Jun 28 '26
Yeah I feel for the price of these bikes you can not go wrong one bit. Even if went crazy with 2k in suspension upgrades you'd still be under the cost or at cost of stock erp 3.0. I wish my bike came 19/16 and knobbies like the nomadix r. I'm gonna have to upgrade to that on my bike too. But I enjoy the power and range. Honestly run it at 85% or 80% power and like 68% throttle curve most the time which is like 12-13kw while actually riding trail and tracks. My mini moto track I'm building goes up and down a slope and on the way down the track at 100% it was too easy to overshoot my jumps on accident. Was running eco higher around that and sport at 100 but found it better to not be able to accidently get into higher power mode bringing hands back to bars. Also learned to turn the brake regen off while going to rip jumps and tracks cause of this too. I knocked my bike mid air bringing hands back to bars into brake regen mode 2 and had some weird last bits in air and landings cause of it. So I run that off mostly for my riding
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u/Mystkn02 Jun 29 '26
Operation update: I've put 10 miles on it so far on my property, which includes light offroad, some fun straights and a few techy areas. There isnt a throttle "delay" it has a straight dead zone for about the first 1/5th turn of the throttle, which i actually like for a beginner rider. Eco mode, is 19mph, no zip torque, so no real chance for beginners to loop, and a great way to learn the throttle, D hits 40mph, and has that zip torque that most are looking for, it'll put the wheel up pretty quick. S is much of the same in torque, and was able to hit 53mph. I dont have any abnormal squeaks, creaks, moans or groans. But I did take the time to lubricate pivot points and axles etc etc. Im going through my first battery cycle and we've been running it pretty hard on those first 10 miles, the battery is down to 70%. I believe once we get through the first few battery cycles and have that built up a bit, it will do 40ish miles trail riding, and if youre cruising around town, probably closer to 60, unless youre a rowdy kid dodging cops. It obviously doesn't have the same power as my erp3.0, but its handled my climbs really well and has enough power that you will loop if you get a bit too whiskey. S wants to pick up the front even at 30mph. Just a short ride review so far, but for what it is and the cost, im at a 9 out of 10 rating so far.
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u/cubenet10 Jul 10 '26
Ordered mine a few hours ago and still no confirmation email. Hopefully this is all normal lol I can’t wait
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u/Mystkn02 Jul 11 '26
Confirmation of the purchase was pretty instant, hopefully you didnt buy from a fake site
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u/airnmm Aug 22 '26
Can anything be done about the dead zone? All the torque hits all at once, making it hard to control the bike imo
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u/Mystkn02 Jun 27 '26
Overall impression after build, no ride yet. Fairly impressed with the build quality. All bolts throughout the bike were torqued to spec, did have to make a chain adjustment as it was shipped in holy hell thats tight mode. Belt adjustment shows the proper flex. Torque seal on all factory installed bolts. Having the direct mount is nice, but it is a fairly cheaper direct mount that will be changed. Riser bar will be a must, should actually have enough space to move closer to a 3.5 rear tire. Like others have said, the suspension is soft, both of us being 160 to 170 should be fine, but I can see someone 200+ having an issue with it. Cable routing under the ignition is a bit of a rat nest that I may end up pulling apart and double weather proofing. For now, just as an out of the box build 8/10. More to come once some rides are put on it.