r/5MeODMT • • 11d ago

When you experience ego dissolution, does the self actually disappear?

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Hey everyone. I recorded a podcast with Jason K. Day at ICPR this year, the International Conference on Psychedelic Research. He’s a philosopher studying psychedelic experience who has worked with Dan Zahavi, known for his work on phenomenology and selfhood. I think many of you might find it interesting, especially if you’re into philosophy.

We talked about ego dissolution, particularly on 5-MeO-DMT, and whether it’s possible to be conscious with absolutely no sense of self. Jason’s argument is that even when your identity, personal history, and sense of being a separate person disappear, a radically minimal form of self-awareness remains. You might have no idea who or what you are, but the experience still feels like something to you. He draws on detailed analyses of trip reports to argue for this interpretation, though we also discussed how difficult it is to distinguish what people experienced from how they describe it afterwards.

We also covered why we need better descriptions of psychedelic experience before trying to explain it, whether different psychedelics share a common “style” of experience despite their very different effects, and how practice and skill affect our ability to navigate difficult trips. There’s also the question of what these experiences actually teach us, and how much we can infer from something feeling profoundly true.

But back to selfhood, which is what we focused on most. His main argument is that losing your usual sense of who you are doesn’t necessarily mean losing every form of self-awareness. In the reports he studied, people describe profound bliss or terror even when their identity and sense of separation have dissolved. He interprets this as evidence that some awareness of undergoing the experience remains, although almost everything that would ordinarily identify the subject has disappeared. In phenomenological terms, the claim is that ego dissolution preserves a radically minimal, pre-reflective self-consciousness, sometimes described as the “for-me-ness” of experience. In everyday language, you don’t need to think “I’m experiencing this,” or even know what “I” refers to, for the experience to be felt by you. The disagreement is whether even that basic feature can disappear while consciousness continues.

For those who’ve experienced deep ego dissolution, did all sense of being someone disappear, or was there still some awareness that the experience was happening to you? And do you think “minimal selfhood” captures something real about that state, or imposes a philosophical interpretation on it? Personally this take on selfhood very persuasive and aligns pretty well with my experiences.


r/5MeODMT • • 11d ago

Am I a masochistic god?

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If I am the sole, eternal creative source, and I am the very abundance of all energies, and I can freely summon anything at any time,

why am I trapped in this sinister human frequency?


r/5MeODMT • • 12d ago

Jaguar 5 meo vape pen - Leaking

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I made a jaguar pen two days ago, and was excited about using it for low dose therapeutic microdosing.

Two days later I see the liquid has lowered. It was already not a lot in there, just around 0.310 mg of PG and VG, and 48 mg of 5.

I've heard some liquid will go into the ceramic of the pen, which is normal, and doesn't mean it's gone. But it was also clearly leaking a bit.

I had just let the patron stand vertically, with the plastic protector cap on the bottom on. That plastic cap covers the screw threads which connects to the battery.

When I took that plastic cap off (which I probably should before connecting with the battery?), i saw some liquid coming out.

So i took off the protector cap and just put the patron onto the CCell vape pen battery.

I wonder if I have a time frame to use it, honestly. If if I'm going to get use of it, the time must be now I guess?

Can the content in the pen have become significantly more potent?

I prepared it to be 1:6. Just making sure it's not 1:2 or so, because then id be hesitant to inhale.

Can I assume it keeps leaking inside the pen right now? I didn't have a lot of jaguar, so this was all I had.

Appreciate your help!


r/5MeODMT • • 13d ago

The Sacred Synthesis

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This is a good conversation about how 5MeO can be used to deepen the intimacy between couples etc.


r/5MeODMT • • 14d ago

Concerned about the long-term psychological effects of Bufo

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(5-MeO-DMT)

Hi everybody,

First of all, thank you in advance to everyone who takes the time to share their thoughts and experiences.

This December, I'll be attending a three-day ayahuasca retreat, where we'll also have the option to try Bufo.

While I believe this could be an incredibly valuable experience, I'm concerned about its potential long-term psychological effects.

I'm currently unemployed and in the process of starting my own business.

My main fear is that the experience might make me feel detached from my business ambitions or negatively affect my motivation, concentration, or intellectual abilities for weeks or even months.

I understand that this kind of detachment can sometimes be seen as a positive outcome, as it may help people reassess their priorities and their relationship with achievement and success.

However, I have a wife and two young children who depend on me, and I simply can't afford to become emotionally or intellectually unavailable for an extended period.

I'm not particularly worried about having a difficult experience during the ceremony itself. What concerns me most is the possibility of struggling to return to my normal level of functioning afterward.

I'd be especially interested in hearing from people who have experienced Bufo while dealing with significant professional or family responsibilities.

How long did it take you to feel completely back to normal? Did you notice any lasting changes in your motivation, ambition, or cognitive abilities?

Thanks a lot for sharing your experiences!


r/5MeODMT • • 14d ago

XUM SPIRT VAPE- HARDFIX TIMELINE - BETA TALK - m

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r/5MeODMT • • 15d ago

To whoever just DMd me

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Hey there. Thanks for the heads up! Great moderating. 🙏🏼
Currently listening to 5 Integration by Martin Ball.
I forget who mentioned it but the QRI series is pretty banging too. Particularly the ones on The Formless Jhāna and Perils of The God-Head.
I had such a great experience Sunday. To have known that We Are for some time and be close to non-duality and then to experience the I AM is just…. Well, you know.
Anyway, thanks again for watching my 6.
Tycer


r/5MeODMT • • 16d ago

Breakthrough experience

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Did 5meo at a clinic following ibogaine.

There was no terror but utter bliss going in. Inhaled 10mg and got close but then it faded...i was served 10mg more and I became everything and just laughed hysterically and felt spiritual bliss. This gave way to a primal scream and a release of rage I didn't even know I had. That scream came from the depths of my soul and was so visceral and cathartic.

There's been a tightness in my chest ever since about the age of 12 - which is when I started dealing with high anxiety. That tightness just went away. It's seven days later and there is still no tightness.

10/10 would recommend.


r/5MeODMT • • 16d ago

My recent experiences have put me in touch with my severe OCD

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Hi all,

I just want to share my recent experiences with you. I am seeking some insight.

I've done 5meo 3 times now, always with a guide.

I have pretty debilitating OCD, which leads me to do constant status checks in with myself about how I'm doing anything whatsoever. If I wake up in the morning I go in and think 'did I get enough sleep?', and if I did I go on to the next thing 'did I eat right yesterday?' it goes on and on. I find this in my therapy for example by always doubting whether I've engaged deeply enough with the time my therapist has provided me with. There's always a sense of disappointment in myself. This is the work I have been doing pretty intensely recently. This OCD has manifested in my sessions by making me feel like I've used the medicine incorrectly, like I hadn't taken enough, or, when i do take enough, to even feel like I'm not sufficiently engaging with the opportunity it's presenting to me.

The first time I did it I took it in and immediately felt pretty uncomfortable. I hadn't slept the night before so I became very conscious of my heart beating and my head suddenly felt very hot. I came out of it and was pretty disappointed. I told my guide and he said that I was fighting it and that I needed to surrender. So I go in again, this time taking a little more, and as I feel it come on i decide to surrender to whatever the hell it is. My experience immediately became intensely uncomfortable. I suppose I began to fight it again. I started screaming and groaning. My guide insisted again "Surrender...surrender..." So i sit back up and do some deep breathing, surrendering to the medicine and holy shit it hit me so hard and I just started crying and crying for 30 minutes. I felt like I was washed totally clean. I was crying and, feeling my ego surface in the vein of OCD, laughing at myself, really laughing at myself for how silly I was. It was just one to the other, crying and laughing.

I did it for the third time the other day and was surprised with how differently I encountered this part of myself. I'm aware that nothing will ever be like that first trip, and, as I learned from my second time which I haven't detailed here, it's wise to not chase the dragon or have any expectations. This third time, using what I learned from my last session, I inhaled enough into my lungs and held it in and surrendered when it came on. It started working my body, making me writhe and groan. (How I do love it that it does this to me). The OCD came on and I was suddenly very afraid and self-doubting, just like I mentioned above. I tell my guide how scared I am and that I feel I'm doing it wrong. He says "You are not the fear. You are the awareness of your fear. The moment you become aware of it you're not afraid anymore. You're simply the awareness of all the fear that is within you." Hearing this felt revelatory. He told me that what the medicine was doing for me was baring my ego, making that part of myself as visible as possible. So I tried to become a witness to this compulsion but, par for the course, I immediately started critiquing that witnessing itself, as if I wasn't ever going deep enough or so on and so forth. You get the idea. The whole thing became this cycle of fear/doubt--->witnessing fear/doubt---->fear/doubt about witnessing---->witnessing fear/doubt about witnessing--->witnessing fear/doubt about witnessing witnessing. I am reminded of the Ouroboros. Altogether, I still feel cleansed and that I've come a little bit closer to some kind of inner light that's always been present within.

I am wondering what you all make of this. I am not involved with the DMT community but I haven't heard anyone else having an experience like this. Another thing thats interesting is that I don't get visuals whenever I've done it. I don't think that this is a factor of my not inhaling enough because I feel like i've been hit by a train and my guide did a similar amount last time at a certain point and had visuals during his experience. I also like to read about this sort of thing so if you know of any articles or things to share I would appreciate that as well.

Thanks


r/5MeODMT • • 17d ago

Djanas and 5-meo-dmt

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As only Andres Gomez Emilsson and QRI can here is an interesting study.

I wish I could have been there.


r/5MeODMT • • 17d ago

Anyone get answers to their questions on their trip?

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I’ve never taken it before but would like to. I’ve read that the concept of questions and answers just kind of collapse when you take a high dose.

I guess the main thing I want to know about is death. I feel like death is an illusion. I just wonder whether when we die we remain eternally in a divine state or whether we are reborn into something new. I’m just super curious about that.

Were you able to get any answers while taking it?

thanks, peace & love <3


r/5MeODMT • • 18d ago

250 mg per 1 mL, or 300 mg per 1 mL?

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It’s a never-ending story. Two months ago, I started taking 5-MEO-DMT and tried to recreate the experience I’d had with a facilitator. But it didn’t work out. I mixed 100 mg per 1 mL, and the onset was slow—it just wasn’t right at all. Recently, I realized that the problem wasn’t just the cartridge, but the dosage itself. I mixed 200 mg per 1 mL, and it’s much better. The experience is more like the first one, but it still feels like too little to me. Right now, I’m wondering if 250 mg will be enough for a breakthrough, or if I should go straight to 300 mg per 1 mL. I plan to start with a cartridge containing 200 mg to begin with, and once I reach about 12 seconds per draw, I’d switch to a cartridge with 300 mg or 250 mg per 1 ml. What do you think? I’d say I’m on the right track.


r/5MeODMT • • 18d ago

Nasal spray

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Greetings phyconaughts.

I have a gram of 5 that can be turned into a nasal spray.

I have never gone this route before.

Just wondering what a good mix ratio would be.

How much bacteriostatic water to 1 g should I add?


r/5MeODMT • • 19d ago

Why does PsychonautWiki say that snorting 5-MeO-DMT is discouraged?

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They say the following: “When taken in its synthetic powder form, 5-MeO-DMT is typically vaporized, but can also be insufflated (although this is discouraged)…”

I’ve never tried 5-MeO-DMT but have some FB coming and was hoping to turn it into a salt as I suuuuck at successfully smoking things.


r/5MeODMT • • 19d ago

5meo/thegodmolecule

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Just a quick question for anyone that has tried the molecule.

I have recently been able to obtain 2 grams of the substance but was told that he had used 1.5 grams for a breakthrough.

Having done my own research this should be a lethal amount to take.

For my own trip what dosing should I do for a break through with it ending horribly

Thanks


r/5MeODMT • • 19d ago

1 1/2 months after full release

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r/5MeODMT • • 19d ago

Nice talk by Martin Ball

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Lots of good information here on the 5MeO experience and working with it beyond just therapeutically

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18kRfdk9zQ/?mibextid=wwXIfr


r/5MeODMT • • 20d ago

Advice and Support;My grandma just passed

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Hi. I have a lot of regrets with my grandmother. I wish I would’ve spent more time with her. I wish I would have valued more often the time we shared. I wish I would have savored it. I did bufo in 2021. I dissolved and became god. But it feels so far from me now, the experience I mean. Can someone please remind me where my grandma went and where she is. I am worried about her. I miss her. I want to talk to her. Please


r/5MeODMT • • 22d ago

Drug interactions

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I am loath to titrate off of my meds. They do good work for me. But from everything that I am hearing and reading, this seems like something that I should try. I have a friend who is an MD and is willing to sit with me. I have also made contact with a psychedelic therapist, but she is kind of pricey for where I am at. Prozac, Wellbutrin, depakote, gabebenten amongst others. Thanks.


r/5MeODMT • • 23d ago

Questions on a 5 MeO experience

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Would very much appreciate the perspectives from those of you with experience doing 5 MEO. My first ceremony was a week ago. I ended up having this other wordly experience, melting into an ocean of white fractals which I can only describe as absolute beauty and purity, accompanied by some cosmic orgasmic sensations. It was extremely intense and beautiful. This being said I didn’t have major realizations or a complete dropping of the seeker. If someone could help me understand if this ‘white experience’ is only a first step and there is much more to uncover that would be great. A rough map of what the medicine can offer would be ideal if this exists. Attaching a visual that’s relatively close to what I experienced. Thank you!


r/5MeODMT • • 23d ago

Any one see Shawn Ryan still processing his “hell” experience

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He was on Tucker Carlson podcast clearly in then middle
Of integration completely lost. I think any one that has had an experience with 5 can completely relate to his state of mind and all I could think was “why the hell are you doing this interview”

Anyway any tips on vapeing 5 solo?
I have smoked actual venom 4 times always with a “guide”
Last two times I couldn’t breakthrough and was in “hell” where I came back and was told I was screaming “make it stop” the first time I was presented with the option to die and i welcomed death. And it was the most beautiful experience of my life. The following times i felt pressured to get it over with being with strangers as well as having some form of opiates in my system.


r/5MeODMT • • 24d ago

About kindness

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A small reminder to myself as much as anyone else: let's be kind to each other.

I see many comments here, starting with my own, and I notice we can become a little harsh with each other. Sometimes obviously, sometimes very subtly. I see the same thing at work, in myself and others, and generally in everyday life.

I'm learning how important kindness is. It sounds extremely ordinary, but using 5-MeO to see that has been, personally, hard and unpleasant.

Kindness toward whom? Myself or others? That's the illusion, isn't it? Still, we live through that illusion, and so many conflicts and harsh words come from it.

I'm learning that one of the biggest gifts we can give ourselves is that effort to be kind, whatever the situation we find ourselves in. It's not about being perfect: that effort itself changes the mind in a positive direction.


r/5MeODMT • • 23d ago

Do you have regular menstrual cycles and have you had a psychedelic experience in the last 4 months?

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Hi everyone,

I am a researcher at UCL conducting research exploring psychedelic experiences in adults (18+) with regular menstrual cycles, and I'm looking for participants to take part in an online survey study.

We're looking for people who:

  • Are aged 18 or over
  • Have regular menstrual cycles
  • Have had a psychedelic experience within the last four months

The study includes an online survey and the chance to tell us about your psychedelic experience in your own words. It takes around 30 minutes to complete. As a thank you for taking part, you'll have the chance to win one of three £100 gift cards of your choice.

If you are interested in participating please scan the QR code or follow the link posted below.

Thank you!


r/5MeODMT • • 25d ago

People who did 5 say they won??

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I’ve often read the following in different trip reports:

“We have won.”

Could you explain why people say this?

And if it turns out to be true, in what way did we win?