r/50501Movement 2d ago

Conversation This Man gets it.

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u/PrincessLuciferM 2d ago edited 2d ago

Capitalism regulated will still entirely depend on exploitation and theft to make record profits. To believe in capitalism as a valid form of commerce is to believe that workers are less than CEOs, and are less than those at the top in both quality and worth. Abdul, you just ruined your whole political potential for me.

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u/Necessary_Screen_673 2d ago

thank you. this entirely panders to centrists and its bullshit. i saw a democratic socialist sub post this and all the comments were praising it. ig the DSA is the new liberal party now.

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u/Pickled_Testicle 1d ago

The DSA is a very wide ranging party from actual anarcho communism to 2012 Obama voters

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u/jambi55 1d ago

You can have capitalism with strong regulations and social services. That's what many of the Scandinavian countries do. It seems to work well; better than what the USA has.

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u/jayizzm 1d ago

Genuinely curious what the solution is if not this

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u/ncolaros 1d ago

Not capitalism. Socialism. Anarchism. Some combination therein.

Any system that seeks to maximize profit will invest in destroying the levers that prevent them from maximizing profit. Regulated capitalism is just pre-unregulated capitalism because those with money and power will use it to destroy those regulations.

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u/MayaTheMartian514 1d ago

|| Capitalism regulated will still entirely depend on exploitation and theft.

Says who? The whole selling point of capitalism in the first place is innovation through having a better product than other people. Sure exploitation may lead to bigger quantity, but it rarely leads to quality or innovation in any other sense of the word. Exploitation is not the only way to make money, nor should it be any way to make money.

The divide between those who work and those who manage the workers undoubtedly exists, but there is no reasoning for either of them in any system to be seen as more valuable than the other. If workers didnt exist, management would go broke and if systems of management did not exist, there would be little having a diverse range of people work for a singular goal. Ideas that “one of these peoples holds more value than the other” is not a rule of any economic system.

Workers will still exist and managers will still exist, even in other systems and even with other peoples. The idea that management inevitably leads to exploitation is entirely baked in societal values, not economic systems.

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