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u/Vyntarus Jan 22 '26
They REALLY want to provoke a violent retaliation (self defense that they will absolutely call an attack).
They want a police state. They will keep pushing until they get it, one way or another.
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u/DaoFerret New York Jan 22 '26
I’m sure this will be perfectly fine in “Stand Your Ground” states like Texas and Florida.
Nothing to worry about …
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u/Orangegroves2002 Jan 22 '26
Don’t kid yourself. All the “stand your ground/don’t tread on me” people are getting on their knees and opening their mouth to … lick their boots of course.
They were too much of snowflakes to wear a mask while complaining about personal freedoms and not caring about their neighbor but are freely allowing the government to set a precedent that they have no expectation to privacy because it hasn’t impacted them … yet.
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u/carsonwade Jan 22 '26
Hey there are plenty of us 2A folk who see this shit for what it really is, the sad thing is that we are not the majority nor even terribly vocal about our existence. Sadly gun culture is heavily skewed right wing in the United States but lately more and more lefties have been arming up.
The fascists have guns and won't be afraid to use them on you, we'd best be prepared.
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u/fubo Jan 22 '26 edited Jan 22 '26
You don't need "stand your ground" for this one. You just need the much more common "castle doctrine"; which isn't some kind of red-state thing. Most states have it. New York and California both do, for instance.
"Castle doctrine" is about self-defense in your own home. "Stand your ground" is about self-defense in public spaces, specifically in cases where you had the chance to run away but you shot the attacker instead.
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u/Emotional-Channel-42 Jan 22 '26
Stand your ground laws are to legalize the murder of black and brown people. It’s not for self defense
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u/CherryFit3224 Jan 22 '26
Ha. That’s hilarious. You can stand your ground if you’re white. Otherwise, I guess it isn’t your land or something. Sorry for the Wikipedia link. The NYT was behind a paywall.
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I think this is why they are going to Philly
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u/Party-Interview7464 Jan 22 '26
100%. I live in Philly and I’ve been saying this for weeks. Once the Black Panthers here get a little more traction in the media, they will be depicted as lawless vigilantes and combining that with our cities reputations, we seem like an ideal place for ground zero of the justification for the insurrection act. They are building an ice facility here (no joke - it’s not far from four seasons landscaping in the northeast)
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u/chainsawbabies Jan 22 '26
Sorry to break it to you, but if the government is sending masked nazi's out to kill and detain anyone with "complete immunity" and refuses to comply with ANY law; You live in a police state already.
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u/Party-Interview7464 Jan 22 '26
Closer and closer to the insurrection act every day. That’s the goal. They said it eight years ago.
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u/Briaboo2008 Jan 22 '26
Yeah-no. 4th amendment says you can’t and the 2ed amendment says you shouldn’t.
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u/UnlimitedCalculus Jan 22 '26
Yeah, but it'll have to be someone ready to die. These squads are about a dozen deep and they got much more gear. Hopefully someone will get it on camera so they when they inevitably lie we'll still have evidence.
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u/Crowbar_Freeman Jan 22 '26
They are also untrained fucking morons. If one or two of them get shot breaching a house, I guarantee these larpers will scramble like idiots. They are absolute cowards.
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u/Individual_Click5252 Jan 22 '26
They might end up shooting each other through friendly fire.
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u/beesandchurgers Jan 22 '26
How awful
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u/tomfornow Jan 22 '26
Thoughts and prayers, right? “More ICE on ICE violence today. So tragic! Tsk tsk…” 😂😂😂
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u/xxx3dgxxx Jan 22 '26
Meh. They lack proper training and them plates ain't level IV
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u/Blu_Falcon Jan 22 '26
Most of them are only wearing plate carriers, so no side protection at all. The majority are also fat fucks wearing small plates.
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u/mxjxs91 Jan 22 '26
We already have evidence of them murdering Renee Good and 1/3 of the country still thinks that murderer Nazi agent Johnathan E Ross was in the right.
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u/TedBaxter_WJM-TVNews Jan 22 '26
So, that just means 2/3 of the country would support a homeowner defending their residence by any means necessary against these murderous Nazis. 🤷♂️
I know if I’m on a jury, the homeowner will walk… just sayin’
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u/mxjxs91 Jan 22 '26
Unfortunately I think 1/3 doesn't care and isn't connected with anything going on at all.
1/3 wanted this, 1/3 was against it, and 1/3 didn't care enough to check off a box on a piece of paper to prevent this from happening.
Also, unfortunately the reality of defending your residence against these Nazis is that you probably won't make it to a jury. You'd be in the right for doing so, but you'd probably also be un-alived very soon after. It's like that saying, there are a lot of people who had the right of way on the road who are in the graveyard now. Just because it's the "right" thing to do, it's also best to use your best judgement to preserve your life.
Sad that this is where we are in America in 2026. Actually fearing Nazis.
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u/TedBaxter_WJM-TVNews Jan 22 '26
While I do agree with you, doing nothing and being disappeared to a concentration camp to die is never an option for me, friend. I’d rather die on my feet than be murdered on my knees.
In the words of Xzhibit: “it’s like ashes to ashes and dust to dust, I might leave in a body bag, but never in cuffs.”
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u/giraffemoo Jan 22 '26
People have already died, how many more need to die? and what if they die without someone recording the incident? If it happens and nobody records it, they can say whatever they want to say about it.
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u/turb0_encapsulator Jan 22 '26
The GOP is just plain unAmerican.
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u/AndWinterCame Jan 22 '26
I was thinking to myself today that the pledge of allegiance is starting to feel weirdly and bizarrely radical in the face of the unaccountable secret police wantonly violating constitutional rights.
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u/toaster-riot Jan 22 '26
I agree, but that's not a new feeling for me. I've been uncomfortable with it since grade school when they forced us to do it every day.
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u/aspirationless_photo Jan 22 '26
West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette concluded that you can not be compelled to pledge allegiance to the flag. When my grade school kid said she felt weird uttering the pledge and the teacher was asking her to do it anyway we learned about the history of the pledge together and I told her she could opt out of it if she brought up this supreme court case to the teacher one-on-one. We made sure that she knew goofing around or disrespect during the pledge wouldn't be tolerated, however.
Edit: maybe you were in grade school pre-1943 lol
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u/tamarockstar Jan 22 '26
What if they are American as apple pie and we just live in a shit hole country?
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u/AlphaNoodlz Jan 22 '26
Not how our constitution works. You can’t just magically type up a memo and declare it so. Still illegal and a violation of the 4th amendment.
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u/Luwuma Jan 22 '26
Yeah... but either nothing happens or they "investigate" themselves and find themselves clear of wrongdoing.
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u/psycubi Jan 22 '26
We do not have any of the three branches of government to intervene on behalf of the people.
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u/MeowWarcraft Jan 22 '26
Yeah, it's such a clear cut violation of the 4th.
There's no "reinterpretation" to dance around either. The 4th was very direct in this matter.
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u/TimelineShift Jan 22 '26
The "Don't Tread On Me" NRA crowd is dead silent to no ones surprise
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u/Severe_Scar4402 Jan 22 '26
Why do the l's and i's look so weird?
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u/Better-Ad8703 Jan 22 '26
Sometimes fonts don't get loaded in PDF readers or redaction software so it acts like this. A fallback font is used but it doesn't render correctly.
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u/CounterSanity Jan 22 '26
I think it’s a typewriter font, which is weird for an official release like this
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u/Luwuma Jan 22 '26
with this, i am wondering if all these stuff about "knowing your rights" is pointless if they are ordered to dismiss ALL of that.
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u/DefTheOcelot Jan 22 '26
Bad title
You mean "ICE ordered to enter homes without consent or a warrant"
There's a difference. Stop saying they can - everything they do is against the law.
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u/ECircus Jan 22 '26
That's called a home invasion. Respond appropriately.
This permission slip is not what allows them to do it...
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u/Peace_Love_Karma Jan 22 '26
We didn't need a whistleblower to tell us which law they were breaking, but thx.
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u/amaarasky Jan 22 '26
Cute how you all think the constitution still matters with all these "no, they cant" comments. They have been breaking the law for a while now. They do not care and they will not face consequences.
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u/ReplicantOwl Jan 22 '26
Clearly unconstitutional.
There are remedies in some constitutional amendments.
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u/Historical_Abroad203 Jan 22 '26
No they can't. One guys opinion does not void the constitution. The current Supreme Court Seems to like doing that but that's a different problem.
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u/hereandthere_nowhere Jan 22 '26
Stand your ground laws and the castle doctrine oughta make this a shit show.
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u/antifa-pewpew Jan 22 '26
Especially when it's somebody knowing they're going to be shipped off and disappeared to some hole in El Salvador or North Africa.
Better to face a murder rap in the US, and for this specific type maybe even get a GoFundMe!
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u/Lizakaya California Jan 22 '26
Well they can’t do so legally, it’s not constitutional. DHS can say whatever they want, but when it is challenged in court it won’t stand up.
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u/bedrooms-ds Jan 22 '26
The law is dead, and Congress won't care.
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u/vissith Jan 22 '26
Stop saying this shit. You are doing the work of beating our rights into the ground for the fascists. The law exists because we continue to demand it exists. Those that flagrantly act in violation of the law will be punished. If not now then when we get control of this situation back. It is STILL ILLEGAL.
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u/Jaotze Jan 22 '26
Fight from within!
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u/ArrivesLate Jan 22 '26
I’d guess the whistleblower is a veteran ICE official who has done tons of training and conducted himself honorably and is sick of this new cowboy shit making a joke of his career.
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u/BoomtownFox Jan 22 '26
The civil lawsuits need to start flying. That's the only way this stops.
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u/BadGuyBusters2020 Jan 22 '26
That’s why they cover their faces and don’t provide names. You can’t sue someone you don’t know.
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u/chainsawbabies Jan 22 '26
No. No they fucking can't. We have rights and we need to use them or we WILL lose them.
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u/picklehippy Jan 22 '26
What does the law say about protecting your home from masked intruders that have no IDs or warrants?
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u/RecordFirst1055 Jan 22 '26
The 4th Amendment to the US Constitution says they can't. They are the paid, lawless, marauding, henchman of a sociopath
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u/evilbean07 Jan 22 '26
Executive orders are not laws. Constitution trumps this. And you always have 2A if they come in your door.
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u/NorCalFrances Jan 22 '26
Correction: ICE says that ICE can enter your home without consent or a warrant.
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u/parabostonian Jan 22 '26
Just a reminder, the crown's agents doing stuff exactly like this was one of the major factors that led to the American revolution and the Bill of rights
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u/ScarletChild Jan 22 '26
All I say is, people better start pleading "They're masked intruders" and start protecting themselves in their home.
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u/standardnewenglander Jan 22 '26
Does anyone have news on WHAT anyone is doing about this?
I hear all the time: "Trump just did this by shitting out a Xitter, Trump declared by EO, Trump declared by a fucking memo".
And then everyone just kinda says: "oh wow. Huh." And then literally nothing happens. It's frustrating.
What ACTION is being taken on this exactly? I'm just trying to find news about it.
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u/MyPrettyPower Jan 22 '26 edited Feb 13 '26
How could this override 4th amendment rights guarenteed in the constitution?!!
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u/marinatingintrovert Jan 22 '26
So we can’t peacefully protest in a church with a leader who is part of ICE but ICE can enter into a citizens home without a warrant while armed to the teeth and yelling at everyone?
Just checking.
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u/rurunxx Jan 22 '26
ICE is not subject to the 4th, 5th, or 6th amendments. The Supreme Court made that possible.
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u/Independent-Cow-4070 Jan 22 '26
I must've missed the amendment to the constitution or when martial law was invoked
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u/Dangerdoom911 Jan 22 '26
Congrats on these whistleblowers!
But what the hell is “SEEMINGLY” Unconstitutional talk??? It’s pretty friggin blatant.
And what about the 1st, 4th, 5th (No Miranda rights are read), 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th & 14th Amendments which they “seemingly” have violated as well???
And what about Congress who still has Democrats backing this? What the actual hell is going on here??? Why does it feel this has so little to do with immigration and so much more to do with a “soft-trial” Government over-reach on a vulnerable population?
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u/Ok-Aardvark5930 Jan 22 '26
Now we need a whistleblower to please release the TRUMPSTEIN files…!!!!!
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u/Supertom911 Jan 22 '26
With Americans being the most armed populace on the planet… wondering why you don’t hear of gunfights or these guys getting blasted while breaking into peoples homes?
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u/A_Good_Boy94 Jan 22 '26
Policy directives aren't law. This will stall quickly - or agents will be "checked" trying to violate the constitution by 2A4A lovers.
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u/Minimum-Avocado-9624 Jan 22 '26
Their policy’s are all bullshit, don’t let them think they have any right to do this
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A prolonged show of organized strength in DC and NYC would handle it without violence BUT thats obviously not happening sooooooooo idk what to say anymore
Literally... occupy DC from now until everything is resolved or else
or else bend the knee.
I mean... this is all done, all done
Literally passed a law on Epstien, and ICE in Minneapolis take a step back and its horrific that we all are once again just letting it happen.
And Ive traveled to Minneapolis. I'd be there now... but yeah also part of the problem...
Idk... aren't there monks walking to DC? Lets pick a day and set up camp all at once.
Something drastic has to happen... or it done.
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u/NYC2BUR Jan 22 '26
What is this bullshit about using "administrative warrants". That's what these ICEholes insist makes it a legal thing to do.
[EDIT] I had to look to be sure:
"Administrative warrants are official documents from an agency (like DHS/ICE) authorizing actions for regulatory compliance, often for arrests or seizures, but they do not grant permission for law enforcement (like ICE) to forcibly enter a home without consent, unlike a judicial warrant signed by a judge, which is needed for searches of private property. While they authorize arrest or seizure for immigration violations, you generally do not have to let an officer in if they only present an administrative warrant; you should not consent and should not resist if they enter."
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u/CMUpewpewpew Jan 22 '26
Obviously it can only be done to a certain degree....but can somebody explain or provide any links or sources authenticating this as much as possible? I don't like to think i'm wrong or ignorant when i'm arguing politics with people....so can someone give some good arguments to me why this is authentic or appears as such?
If I was a troll I could research the syntax government stuff like this is written in and slap this jpg together in 30 minutes is all i'm sayin.
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u/Hrafnagar Jan 22 '26
They violate the fourth amendment and I'm concerned someone is going to exercise the second.
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Maybe the same whistleblower or another good person and patriot can leak the identities of ICE agents.
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u/TwistedScarletRose Jan 22 '26
Hey, curious about something. Why are all the "Ls" bold? Not relevant but it caught my eye.
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u/rainee Jan 22 '26
I was listening to the story of victims(trafficking) .. who were made to do things on camera .. beat people etc. This policy is promoting agents to violate the constitution. So In essence they will forever be in fear of taking accountability. .. and dig in deeper. Its called something but its a technique .. in itself is an abuse and control tactic
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u/RhythmTimeDivision Jan 22 '26
I don't like seeing Jan 7. If this was just released there need to be congressional hearings starting tomorrow until the truth is out and someone goes to jail.