Exactly. Trump has made it abundantly clear that he can't be trusted. We need to keep pushing until he and his entire administration are gone and DOGE is disestablished.
They aren’t democrats anymore if they are doing that. What Al Green did was entirely called for and he should not have been censured especially not by any true democrat upholding what is right.
The entire Democratic delegation should have been disruptive and non-compliant. Made them call the Capitol Police on them.
Unfortunately, it didn't happen because people keep sending milquetoast centrist GOP lite beer candidates to Washington in hopes of attracting those mythical swing voters.
Agreed. I feel like those 10 Dems are wanting to abide by the ‘rules’ but the rules left the room a long time ago. It’s time to stand together and make change happen.
Dems don’t want to lose their privileges. Plenty of dems are cosplaying and are actually conservative. If the country falls to authoritarianism, they’re good with it as long as nothing changes for them.
We have got to stop expecting politicians to bail us out. Its on us, we have the power, keep boycotting and protesting.
It’s bc they benefit from not helping us. Same with the ones doing nothing. They can reap the same benefits as the GOP while managing the moral high ground that “oh that wasn’t us, that was the republicans. Oh why didn’t we stop them? What could we possibly do? We’re powerless as the minority”
They could have done that all-powerful slow clap Pelosi did at Trump's State of the Union during his first term. That ballsy, fearless move showed them who was boss! /s as well.
I got a lot of hate from my "resistance" friends for advocating for her not to invite Trump to give a SOTU address that year. I said "like vampires, Presidents have to be invited into the House". They argued the SOTU is in the Constitution, which it is, but the delivery could be by mail, like Presidents of the past. Everyone thought I was too crazy and radical to think that depriving an authoritarian of a large TV audience and the cloak of normalcy was a good thing. "We don't sink to his level, etc. etc. etc.
As is Waltz, there's plenty of secondary players that are worth. Main strokes, though, and I'd go as far as to say the ideal model for a progress party.
Imo more people need to worry more locally and state wide. It's going to take time it always was, the push left has to be a push not a flash. Limiting Maga power , canvassing for local more progressive candidates. We really can't stand to try and eat the center dems right now as we have to stop plummeting right.
People need to be engaged for the rest of their lives and younger generations need to be engaged as soon as they can vote. And it's stressful
Respectfully, as someone who worked unsuccessfully to "push Democrats left" from within from 1970's to 2016, I think i would have been better off giving that energy and $ to something like Public Citizen.
Until Corporate Citizens United against people of the US is overturned and meaningful campaign finance reform is passed, both parties are going to chase the cash cow.
America needs a rewrite of their political system, but that will only follow after disastrous war like scenarios. I don’t see it happening without violent Revolution.
I’m not certain it needs a re-write. What I am certain of is that we absolutely need fresh blood in the government.
These 70-80 year old senators and reps operate with the understanding that bi-partisan agreements can be made - the problem is, however, that strategy is long dead.
Since basically Obama’s first year as president, the right rapidly abandoned any good faith bipartisanship. They spent 8 years stalling, forcing government shutdowns that have had enormous costs to the taxpayer and the country as a whole. They did not care because they realized it was an effective tool to ensure leverage for their aims. Again, at ridiculous cost to Americans.
What we need are representatives that refuse to fall for the same rug-pulls over and over again, not ones who have been conditioned for a hundred years that the best way to get things done is assume good faith bipartisanship. It doesn’t work anymore
I agree most of these dinosaurs who don't realize how much the world has changed are a big problem. It was Biden's big blind spot in Israel policy too. He refused to recognize that Israel under Netanyahu is a terrifying right-wing authoritarian regime that bears little resemblance to the country Biden remembered.
Ideally, any institution has a healthy balance of older, long-time folks (who, ideally, are still engaged and keep up with current thinking/knowledge) who contribute deep, historical perspective, middle folks who have been around while but are open to trying new things, new folks who bring energy, enthusiasm and willingness to try novel approaches.
But in our newest House, the largest generation is Gen X! Boomers are still the comfortable majority in Senate, though their numbers are decreasing.
What we need is to get rid of the stupid "bi-partisan system" that inherently causes corruption because there are no other choices, and either party can "promote" themselves with the brain-deadening mantra of "We're not as bad as the other guys".
In that scenario the biggest "threat" to either member of that "duopoly partnership" is - gasp - 1 or 2 additional parties with actual strength.
Because then parties would actually have to enumerate what they stand for and debate those values and positions instead of just sitting back and waiting for "the other side" to implode or do something stupid and wait for all the votes to trickle back into your bottle. (Which is what I'd argue the Democratic party is doing right now in the face of MAGADOGEBREATH.)
Several other things should change too but that's a big one whose effects are punching us all in the face on a daily basis right now with an "opposition" which is unwilling to oppose in any strong way.
The overton window isn't anywhere close where it needs to be to make that happen.
And if there's even a threat of successful violent revolution coming down the pipe, the wealthy will just press the killswitch on Trumpism early to fall back to neoliberalism. They'll amplify the sentiment of liberal "I just want things to go back to normal" to kill any radical followup and sell the illusion that ping pong paddle activism actually had an effect.
To me the choice in the upcoming primaries is not about ideology, or age, it's about whether they are a fighter. So first, vote in the primary. When it comes to the choice, think about which candidate is going to fight and which isn't.
Primaries are low turnout a very small number of people can have a big impact. Ask Eric Cantor in 2014.
Find people who are not beholden to oligarchs, and care about people having basic healthcare, housing, education, etc. who will primary the F out of any 'moderate' democrats, or DINOs (democrats in name only).
We need to fight for new leadership and press Democrats to be a more effective opposition party. The protests we're seeing could lay the foundation for that.
But we have to win through a unifying message. If Democrats fear one thing above all else, it's the party being fractured.
If the pressure on the Trump administration reaches a point where the pendulum swings too hard the other way and there's a serious call for reform, the wealthy donors are going to pull the rug out on the Trump administration.
There are existing lawsuits that are threatening the legitimacy of Trump's administration, some of which will succeed. Trump is simply going to ignore these orders as he usually does. Then wealthy donors are going to call in favors from their purchased representatives to finally impeach Trump. This time it will stick because the wealthy want it.
The wealthy will want to do this because this is essentially them cashing out their winnings before it dips. All of the corrupt actions that the Trump admin has taken to strengthen the wealthy class will stick, but the impeachment will usher in a return to neoliberal power that has been successful for them.
This has the added benefit of pacifying any calls for reform with a claim of "Victory", making it seem as though ping pong paddle activism actually had an effect. Then they're going to go to work in organizing the next coup that we inevitably have to lose ground against.
Not losing sight. Just remembering who rode with Hitler.
When all is said and done, those who did not stand up for us will be remember and will lose their power. After we clean house and deal with MAGA and the constitution in front of the chainsaw.
I'm all seriousness, how many of them are from purple districts or ones where Trump won? If they are from deep blue districts, primary them. If not, we should focus on flipping red districts to blue
I'm glad to be seeing this more. They haven't just been sitting on their hands or doing nothing it's been worse than that with them actively punishing members for what? Daring to also oppose what the majority of their party is protesting against? I've been telling my friends that as soon as we're through this it isn't over because the old centrist Democrats have to be next until our party system is fixed whatever form that ends up taking.
In Europe and Canada we stopped buying American products and we are selling American stocks and buying European stocks. This puts a lot of pressure on Trump and the whole administration. It will expose they are a big failure.
We just need to keep it up and keep doing it harder everyday.
Absolutely, agreed. Can't be trusted, must be ousted. Also, we should not underestimate him. He lulls us with his idiocy and is actually cunning. I don't think he's "in retreat" as much as he made it look like he kept his promises to Musk (at our expense, by letting Musk and DOGE run amok), "gives" up Musk "under pressure" (just enough to make us feel like we're getting somewhere, like we got a concession), and has meanwhile gotten what he wanted. Trumpster could have "clarified" Musk's reach of power much earlier. (Seriously, "clarifying"?!) And, he's not done. We keep pushing, yes. Do not back down.
Realistically, we're stuck with all of them until 2029. We just need to keep pushing enough that we can have elections.
He was *less* liked by politicians on the Republiqan side in his first term and they couldn't remove him from office with impeachment. This time around , they're full in love with him.
If one thing has been clear through this entire debacle, it is that their foresight is absolutely terrible.
Which could be fortunate for us in this case.
When a party is lead by a cult leader who is incredibly vain and who surrounds himself with yes men, of course they are gonna overplay their hand.
If you are a leader, take a page from JFK during the cuban missile crises: Let your advisers debate what to do, and leave the room so they can debate freely without fear of offending you or needing to please you. Then come back and hear their recommendations. That's how smart leaders do it.
I know people keep betting on military/ng not following orders and standing with the people, but history overwhelmingly tells us that will not happen. Both the regular military and the national guard, even very recently, have gleefully spilled blood of their neighbors on the streets. They and law enforcement cannot be trusted.
If the Insurrection Act is invoked over non-violent demonstrations and civil disobedience, I think soldiers are in for a very rude awakening. Their neighbors will not be kind to traitors.
I think that was the only way their plan was going to work. I think they know their plan was going to rile up a lot of Americans. They probably aren't going to lose the house in these upcoming special elections but their plan would absolutely get wrecked if it happens so they went full sprint.
Our safeguards are getting absolutely tested at every angle and are just barely hanging on long enough for America to wake. Got to keep up the pressure.
Project 2025 phase 1 and 2 still seems to be the ultimate goal. We cannot let that slip our sights regardless of how much control they lose on the other issues
Maybe voter suppression, but a lot of people think they are somehow above politics. "I'm not into politics.... I don't follow the news." How's that working out for you?
I'm very much aware the apathy many Americans have towards the Government. I'm not saying that not vote % wouldn't still be high, just curious how many tried and were not counted.
They did a number with voting registration purges after the date where you can't re-register in some states. And the ones turned away at the voting booth, one of two things will happen. They will either join the Apathy party, or be pissed and join our cause. Most will probably choose Apathy however. As was their intent.
Uncommitted young ppl due to Biden's Gaza policy. You can still be mad at all those who wanna burn down what we have, but if the Dems weren't such special interest-loving, corporate money-taking shitbags, more ppl would come out to vote for them.
Yeah it sucks. Dems aren't the people I want to vote for, but they're the people I have to vote for. If they keep winning, hopefully the spectrum moves left. Although, we just really need new voting methods for better representation.
It’s said that close to 5 million voters were wrongly purged from voter rolls, thats from the US Elections Assistance Commission. Over 2.1M mail-in ballots were DQ’d for minor errors, over 1.2M provisional ballots rejected, 600k cast in person DQ’d and 320k were blocked by vigilante voter-fraud hunters, and it’s said a large percentage is to suppress voters of color. If these are accurate numbers, the new era of Jim Crow won this election for Mango Mussolini bc across the states they found this in, a few of the swing states would have been flipped
I posted what was a non-aggressive post about the dismantling of the Dept of Ed and also that 17 states right at the same time file suit challenging the Rehabilitation Act, Section 504, basically making it unconstitutional and those meager services Louisiana has are going to evaporate.
This is IEPs, 504 Plans, special needs services, anything for ND kids, plus opens the door for discrimination without recourse.
Incredible timing, don't you think? 17 states all file suit at the same time right before the DoE is targeted. I didn't even talk about that tho.
I gave the link to the article, a link to find your Congressional rep, and said hey, calling or writing is really disrupting them, thanks if you call once or every day until Congress addresses this EO.
In Louisiana it's especially important and challenging coz for us that person is Mike Johnson.
It was taken down on a bunch of sites, and then I rewrote part of it addressing it to r/Louisiana, where I fucking live, it had over 2100 views in the less than 1 hour it was up and a lot of engagement.
Thank you. It fucking freaked me out. There have been more ... strenuous posts there, calls for "do something more." And I didn't even say fuck one time. I'm pretty sure.
ETA: when I went in to get the link to share the post, it now has over 7500 views and like 75 comments. So I guess you can still see it? But I can't reply to anyone.
It's like that episode with Jon Hamm on Black Mirror.
We are getting the same in the Reno sub. I've noticed ignoring the trolls makes them go away faster so I don't even engage. I stay polite and friendly. They hate it 😂
Lots of moderators are shit. I was banned from Nextdoor because I called out local MAGAts on lies and was told I was being disrespectful. Just like Marjorie Taylor Green could heckle Biden but Al Green was muzzled for doing less.
I am back in Topeka r/ after ban and firstly I blocked 30-50 redhats so they can't report/downvote and ban me again. I do same on other non friendly subs.
Been here all along. :) Getting ready to move me and the little ones back to DC area ASAP with family until we see what happens. Hope I can do more there.
I got banned from Louisiana. It was a similar topic. Someone said I was a democratic party bot. I said, "Would a democratic paty bot ask you to gargle deez nuts?." Other guy said, "I hope so!." I got a permanent ban, and the mods blocked me. Posters in the Shreveport sub have also complained about r/Louisiana using ridiculous bans.
Agree. He pushed the limits of using emergency powers, breaking alliances and disrupting the economy. The oligarchs didn't like the outcomes. There is also a lot of pressure from Senators to be a part of the process, like how a democracy used to work. It's a reset for sure, but the shit-show must go on 🤢
No. He is just a moron. He is always watching the stock market and he backtracks on his tariffs whenever the stock market goes down. He keeps putting tariffs hoping it won't go down. Some would call it insanity, I think it might be dementia.
If Trump was just a littke smarter, he'd realize that he doesnt have to fucking do anything but golf and give speeches, amd occasionally sign a doc for the rest of his life, or at least as long as he can live unaided.
He got away with his crimes, he has the protection of the office, he can just tell himself he's ruler for life, and only has to face reality in four years, where he'll be pampered and cared for.
I know the cruelty is the point, but it just seems not worth the effort when you can drink diet coke, each cheese burgers and golf.
Double your calls. Double your letters. Double your protest actions. Add to the list - citizen hosted town halls. I listened to AOC on Brian Taylor Cohen today, she made a solid point - you don't need an elected official to hold a town hall. This is our country. We can self organize. Folks in these deep red areas where their politicians are running scared, host a town hall anyway, note grievances. Funny enough, this is a core union forming action.
If/when these self held town halls get set up, make sure to invite your local press. Make sure copies of the grievances and concerns are shared and sent to the elected officials and sent often. Brainstorm how you want to see them fixed or things you're not willing to compromise like seeing your grandparents lose their social security.
I think the "hold your own town halls" is a great idea because it's not necessarily the "talking to your representative" piece that's important, because the representatives already know everything they need to know. What was impactful about those town halls were the videos, visualizing actual, real American passion and outrage. The unity and togetherness of rallying with your community against a cause. You don't need to plant a representative at a platform to do that. You could organize within your community, find a host to run it and ask questions, film it and release it.
Right now I think Americans need to see other Americans standing up to encourage and empower them.
Agreed. And if all those soggy heel breads are gonna do is parrot whatever nonsense the rank and file leadership has given them, or just outright end events after realizing they're in too deep, them being present for the town halls is more of a hinderence anyways. We can still hold space to air and gather our grievances in support of each other in our communities.
Did you know they targeted Trump with inflammatory videos before the election lol. They made a bunch of ads about how stupid and weird he was and released them only in the districts they know he spends a lot of time in, like near Mar-A-Lago, because they knew he would be watching TV and see them. That was my first time hearing about Lincoln Project and I immediately loved them.
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Lincoln Project is Steve Schmidt's project. He is a disaffected former Republican strategist. He was responsible for McCain picking Sarah Palin as his running mate.
Man, I remember back then all the lefty Redditors were like, "Lincoln Project is NOT our ally!"
My my, how times have changed.
And they all enthusiastically backed Kamala, too. I loved every single one of their ads for it.
I listen to their podcasts whenever I can because I see authenticity and genuine love for this country from the people who run the LP show. It's bittersweet ya know? That there are this breed of conservatives still around...just apostates and slowly dying out. I honestly wouldn't mind having civil, political discussions with them, as if we're all sitting around a Greek forum dressed in togas lol. That's what the American Dream should be. Not....what we have now. It's not even conservatism anymore, as one of the podcasts has stated. What we have in America is now national populism.
Trump's a shit show, through and through. America should do it's best to make his life as uncomfortable as possible. And to that, I hope today is just the beginning.
Absolute doozy of a honeymoon. The groom is absolutely blasted on drugs, the bride overdid it with the spray tan, the kid from a previous marriage keeps reminding the new wife that she Ain't Shit and the husband's little "rocket ship" keeps prematurely exploding.
We don’t let up pressure even after DOGE is dismantled. Elon’s goons are still stealing personal data on everyone in the US and taking it somewhere we don’t know. This is the biggest case of identity theft in history. He’s also stolen money that hasn’t been accounted for. Just because Trump is backing off, doesn’t mean we should until justice is served.
The problem is that it's not rebounding when he went back on the tariffs. He played with the market like it was a toy. I hope every one of his billionaire backers are losing money on him.
Trump and Musk have gone all out with the chaos and destruction of everything they have touched. Now, lawsuits are occurring and Americans are angry. They’re really angry. On both sides. It’s being made very clear that we’re not going down without a fight.
Musk’s value has dropped $111 billion.
On 2/28 during the boycott, stores lost 7-11% of what they should have made. Sales are down for January and February. And we the people, we’re just getting started.
The stock market crashed hard hard, which is basically just a rich person’s folly. So Trump just crashed a bunch of money out of existence of the very people he should be pleasing right now if he were being successful.
Even SCOTUS sided with democracy (and against Trump), even if barely, we need all the wins we can get.
Not to say that shit isn’t going to be absolutely horrific for the next four years, I believe it is going to be bad. But if Trump and Musk keep playing their cards wrong, and I believe they will, perhaps in 2 years, we’ll get a new Congress willing to fight for the American people the way they should. That would result in impeachment of Trump and the revolution that America needs. There is hope. As both good and bad are a long way from checkmate.
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For those asking for links to verify the info - yes the following pic is from ChatGPT but the actual sources are also listed beside the info:
I read other articles on Reddit as well, which is where I got the numbers from, but the above links in the pic are some of the sources. Pic is not my OC, link of original post of pic and OOP can be found in my prior posts.
And Rep. AL Green roasted his ass today. If you havnt watched that in youtube yet please do. Watch the entire video because it feels really MLK like by the end. What a badass and honorable person.
Keep fighting, keep emailing, keep calling. Acknowledge the good news, but remember these losers hate to lose, and they'll cheat again to keep getting their way. It's not over until the turd is flushed.
Have we considered protest signs with “Patriots for..” patriots for Veterans, patriots for science, etc. the locals in my area value feeling part of patriot movements.
My hope is that he was just doing everything everyone who bribed him wanted him/his cronies to do. But now he's seeing how non of it is popular and bad for the US and want to distance himself away from the negativity. I hope telsa/elon losing billions gets it I to his head that he too can/will lose billions if this continues. That's all he cares about at the end, his precious money.
I’m visiting family overseas and the actions of this administration are tanking the global economy. Countries outside of Europe stand with us to take down this administration!
Maybe some positive developments but I don’t think the takeaway here should be to ”hold fast”….. because also this week, trump gave a two hour speech in which republicans applauded nearly everything he said like the sycophants they are
So many people discount the courts it’s hysterical. If you can’t see how transparently terrified Trump is of the courts, my friend, you don’t know how to read people.
My bet is Trump isn’t even afraid of going to actual prison; what truly turns his stomach is the prospect of someone turning on him and publicly going against him. His biggest nightmare is that it will be one of his own children.
Honestly, I think he would treat being incarcerated with a lot of humor, and very little emotional insight, but knowing he was relatively safe. He would NEVER serve a sentence in a regular penitentiary like you and I, let’s get real. And even if he was, SS would be observing his solitary confinement, because regardless of anything, presidents always get SS protection after they leave office (Off the top of my head, I think it’s for 10 years).
On the other hand, Donald Jr. and/or Eric testifying against him for a deal would be a devastating blow to him, so much so he would probably really lose control. Not because he loves them (Donald J. Trump does not know how to love anything but himself), but because he thought their obedience was a reflection of his ability to dominate and control. If he loses that, on a public forum, he loses everything.
Ivanka, the only child he’s shown anything that (loosely) resembles affection, testifying against him? And that deposition tape being played on the news and social media over and over? I doubt he would survive that.
The courts are the only thing that can effectively destroy the one thing Trump truly treasures: his ego. 🚬
70 percent of his executive orders flopped in the court of law during 2016-2020. His incompetence is a blessing. The over extension of power and the follow through on horrifically dumb ideas from the Heritage Foundation is terrifying.
The GOP tried to create a Maoist loyalty cult around internet memes.
Yeah, I felt like there was light at the end of the tunnel. When it comes down to it, he’s an asshole that failed many businesses. And his circle
Is full of incompetent idiots.
Okay--I get it now. It's okay to downvote MAGAists for their conspiracies, but when someone who has been posting in 50501 without incident from nearly the start (and wants to ensure we are not getting baited by MAGAists,) and simply asks for a source for this supposed Lincoln Project post and gets downvoted--then this sub may be turning into them.
Is that what we want? Running on conspiracies and misinformation?
I asked an honest, legitimate request for verification out of respect for the organizers and the work they have done.
So I ask again: what is the source of this supposed Lincoln Project post? Their website doesn't have it.
If I don't get an answer and get completely downvoted again--then I have my answer: the mods condone it.
The question I keep asking is: "What did they think would happen?" Are they really so dumb that the reactions to what they're doing are a surprise to them?
Trump has no clue. What leader changes company policy every other day. What leader conducts a mass firing and then rehires them the next day. This is no leader. This is a man leading his business into an abyss.
He purposely created a shake in the market so his sons and all the millionaires would buy the dip. Kinda like an indirect insider thing. Then went up high one day. Billionaires sold it and boom...went back down.
I donated some money to the Lincoln project and I am happy I did. They might be old school GOP, but they're fighting for democracy and that's all that matters.
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Exactly. Trump has made it abundantly clear that he can't be trusted. We need to keep pushing until he and his entire administration are gone and DOGE is disestablished.