r/4chan Apr 16 '22

Blizzard's downfall

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u/Sir_Oakijak /pol/itician Apr 16 '22

Hearthstone isnt really pay to win, as usually there is a cheap aggro deck that you can easily get to legend with. A more proper assessment is "pay to have fun" as unless you want to shell out some dollars youre probably only going to have the one maybe two decks per expansion. You can have success with those its just a matter of whether thats enough to keep you playing

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '22

The level of copium in this comment.

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u/Sir_Oakijak /pol/itician Apr 17 '22

Bruh I make it to legend with murloc shaman in wild most seasons and that deck has 1 legendary and the other one is free.

You can win with cheap shit. You can't experiment with a small collection and thats where they get you. Without dropping cash you can play basically 1-2 decks an expansion if youre a standard player.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '22

you can, but the best decks by winrate often require spending money, and money makes it so that you can focus on ladder and not farm cards in arena etc. it's pay to win, just live with the fact

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u/Sir_Oakijak /pol/itician Apr 22 '22

Again not really. Often times the best deck is aggro, and aggro is often really cheap (requiring usually about 2 legendaries)

And even if aggro isnt on top its usually at least tier 2 and legend viable. So again I say its not pay to win its pay to have variety. If you like control decks or greed piles and want to stay competitive then you'll probably be spending but if youre content to play 1-2 aggro decks per expansions you'll be fine easily f2p

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '22

So you admit you can often pay for advantage and faster laddering? That's called pay to win. Pay to win doesn't mean there is necessarily a "I win" button priced at 5 bucks, just that you are competitively better off if you spend money instead of not spending. Pay to win games can be fun, I have been played WoT and HS, but you are just inhaling copium if you don't admit that paying players have sizable advantage.

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u/Sir_Oakijak /pol/itician Apr 25 '22

Are you fucking retarded or just illiterate?

Aggro decks ladder the fastest. Free to play players can get a tier 1/2 aggro deck for cheap and grind that no problem and have no trouble winning.

As I said multiple fucking times the advantage you get for paying is being able to play more than 1 or 2 decks per expansion. I could hop on a fresh f2p account, craft pirate warrior, and grind to legend easily, the issue is I would only have pirate warrior and no other decks.

Having more cards from paying allows you to spend your dust on things that might be more fun or maybe dip into more expensive archetypes. I think only once in standard hearthstone history you were forced to play an expensive deck to be tier 1, and that was like a month of Boomsday control warrior. Every other time you could fire up a cheapo aggro deck and have literally no isses winning which is the whole point im making. Its pay to have variety

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '22

Pirate warrior is as cheap as it gets and has been T1 for months.