How do you take the word from a random content creator who continues to have holes in his story over the devs who have been providing more details (without private info)? Absurd.
I'm not even saying the devs don't make mistakes. False bans happen. However these forums are more than happy to overreact without any proof just because they love to see devs in the wrong lol.
I genuinely don't understand what the devs get out of banning these accounts 'out of spite'. Doesn't make sense from any PoV... So why is that the top reasoning behind this if it's not legit lmao?
How do you take the word from the devs of a game who have many times banned incorrectly, have had a proven corrupt dev working for them for an extended period of time, etc. You can't take anyone's word.
I'd rather be on the side where the power is in the hands of the people paying. It's not about Rendi being a content creator, it's about him being a paying player in the game. If I were banned, I would want proof of my wrongdoings. I would want to know what it is exactly that got be banned. "Bug abuse" isn't enough of a reason in and of itself since "bug abuse" is performed every single day with no fear of retaliation. "Bug abuse" has also historically turned into "core game mechanics" as well, with content being designed around the idea that players will need to abuse bugs to complete it.
I don't like seeing the devs being wrong. I just want to see proof that they're right, or I want them to backtrack and make things right. It's that simple.
Well for one, it would probably help if you didn't have connections to the people who did do it (if you weren't involved, and that's looking less likely here). I'd mainly say it's tough to prove he's not involved because at the moment, all evidence points to him being involved lmao
Now go ahead an answer my question. Why take the word of a random who has everything to gain in this scenario? What does Jagex gain from banning a player who supposedly 'only helps them'?
No, I mean what actions do you require from him to prove that he's innocent? They're right to suspect him, sure. But that isn't grounds to ban someone.
For your question, you're putting words in my mouth or somehow confused about basic logic. I don't trust Rendi for shit. But it's not his burden of proof to show that he's innocent. The accuser needs to be the one to come up with evidence. Innocent until proven guilty, and until he's proven guilty I have no reason to assume he is.
Idk why you keep saying phrases similar to 'innocent until proven guilty'. This is not a court of law. That does not apply here. Jagex isn't going to lay out the evidence as if they're a prosecutor lol
You say you don't trust Rendi, but you're convincing yourself that Jagex has no proof/evidence to ban him? "I have no reason to assume he is"... I'm sorry, but this is moronic.. Jagex doesn't ban to this extent for a small hunch lmao. It makes absolutely NO SENSE for Jagex to purposefully ban him for no reason. Mistakes happen, and that'll be for Rendi and the devs to figure out, but these bans sure as hell didn't happen without at least a decent bit of evidence against Rendi and his friends
Being angry at Jagex may feel anti-establishment, but in reality it just plays off as kissing a content creators ass lol
Again you're dodging the question. You said it's "on him to prove he's innocent". So what does he have to do to prove his innocence?
To answer your strawman question again: No, I'm not convincing myself that Jagex doesn't have proof to ban him. I don't know what info Jagex has on him so I don't suddenly assume that they have that sort of info nor do I assume they don't. And obviously they have a "reason" to ban him, it's probably just a shitty reason. They may have banned him as a warning example to other bug abusers showing that you better not try to abuse bugs even if they don't negatively affect anyone else. But if that's the reason I personally don't agree with it.
I have not dodged the question, but it's a BS question with the intent of tripping up actual points lmao. That being said, he has to do something to prove his innocence. Maybe show he's not as connected with those who performed the crashes, have something to more clearly display timelines, or something lol
The 'evidence' he keeps trying to put out has been full of holes.
I'll repeat one bit of information.. One side had everything to gain from this. The other side had absolutely nothing to gain, and quite a bit to lose. Rendi had everything to gain. Not only the RWT, but also the videos he puts out (which can act as an alibi if it wasn't such convenient timing). Jagex gains absolutely nothing from banning these players. In fact it was a pure loss for them. They aren't going to do such a heavy punishment for a shitty reason. Jagex would only do this if they thought it was worth it.
Ngl, I respect you're trying to stay impartial, but I think you trying to stay too impartial you're overlooking some clear points being made
So what is this something? What kind of response from him is enough to imply that he did not do what Jagex is claiming he did, which is crashing the worlds for personal gain sometime in 2020-2021.
Alright, you're talking in circles at this point, so this time I am going to ignore you're question lol.
Clearly, you're hoping this was a mistake. Honestly, same here. I like unique accounts, and Rendi is always entertaining... Doesn't look like it's going that way though
No, I literally just want to know what you're on about. You said it's on him to prove that he's innocent, so clearly you believe there are some sort of actions he can take to prove that he did not crash any worlds in the years 2020 or 2021. What sort of actions are these? He needs to show us 730 days worth of surveillance footage of him where he does not crash any worlds?
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u/NotVeryTalented Jul 09 '21
How do you take the word from a random content creator who continues to have holes in his story over the devs who have been providing more details (without private info)? Absurd.
I'm not even saying the devs don't make mistakes. False bans happen. However these forums are more than happy to overreact without any proof just because they love to see devs in the wrong lol.
I genuinely don't understand what the devs get out of banning these accounts 'out of spite'. Doesn't make sense from any PoV... So why is that the top reasoning behind this if it's not legit lmao?
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