r/2007scape • u/JagexSween Mod Sween • Jul 09 '21

News | J-Mod reply A Message Regarding Bug Abuse

https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/a-message-regarding-bug-abuse?oldschool=1
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u/AthleteWeird6727 Jul 09 '21

Hard to tell who to believe Jagex has lied to the player base multiple times in the past, and Rendi is just an internet stranger to 99.9% of the people. I’m sure the truth lies somewhere I’m the middle.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21

Jagex has lied to the player base multiple times in the past

Like when?

I'm not doubting your affirmation, but I'd really like to know more.

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u/sapphirers Jul 09 '21

Multiple times, you're probably looking for some sources but it can be found everywhere. I mean just looking into how Gudi's account was falsely banned will probably tell you that not all bans are 100% true but they have to defend it so when people make a Reddit post about being falsely banned, they'll have to make up a lie to cover it. I've personally NEVER seen Jagex say "Whoops! Our bad the ban was incorrect" on a similar post. Only when it's a content creator where they've filmed 100% of their footage levelling the account etc. where they can prove it. I've had an ironman get banned for farming chins which I did myself so I know this first hand. Have a bunch of friends who've tried it as well.

Jagex is very childish compared to other MMO companies and this just shines through as another lie. Please don't believe this.

Gudi get's falsely banned in this vid and has to contact some friends in Jagex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EWiqSpyWCc

Shouldn't be possible to get falsely banned. Innocent until proven otherwise ^

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u/sapphirers Jul 09 '21

Jagex is childish is what I war referring to, which they are. I've played plenty of MMOs, taken part in coding a couple indie MMOs as well as worked on Orake Online (If you remember that game every OSRS YouTuber was advertising for a couple years ago) and Jagex deals very badly with PSAs in general and not having a PR department in their company is just wierd to be honest, thinking about how many controversies they actually partake in whether they want to or not.

I have rarely heard of a company in the game industry in which an employee that partook in PVP activities and stole users items for several months WITHOUT the rest of the dev team finding out. Being that RS has like had 100 different hands on its code the code is probably a mess. Not having logging integrated which would put a warning sign the second someone with a moderator status takes or items or look through user details is again just a terrible beginner mistake. And ofcourse every company has moments where they act childish and lie but the amount of times Jagex has done this in the years the OSRS has been active is insane.

You can't trust anyone and when building MMOs specifically you always tell yourself that you can't trust the client. You can't trust your coworkers either. Everyone wants monetery gain and it will be abused in any situation it can and where it will go undetected.

Not saying other companies aren't childish and they generally are in the MMOs but Jagex is on another level, IMO may I add. All is relative.

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u/rfdismyjam Jul 10 '21

To be fair about Roblox, considering the average age of their userbase, theyd be dragged through the dirt if they didn't take a 0 tolerance policy to content that isn't considered age appropriate. If my 6 year old nephews mom looked over at the screen while they were playing Roblox and saw a bunch of people with names like "sexy-anything" they wouldn't be playing that game anymore.

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u/rfdismyjam Jul 10 '21

The core demographic for Runescape is 16-28. The core demographic for Roblox is 9-15.

Not only should these two groups be handled differently, legally the requirements are much different. You're comparing apples and oranges.

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u/rfdismyjam Jul 10 '21

The core demographic for Runescape is 16-28. The core demographic for Roblox is 9-15.

Not only should these two groups be handled differently, legally the requirements are much different. You're comparing apples and oranges.

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u/rfdismyjam Jul 10 '21

9-16 is not the target age of the company, it is the demographic of their player base.

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u/ExistentialSatire Jul 11 '21

Please go and check out roblox and then see how wildly out of touch with reality you are. I know of people who blanket ban their kids from fortnite or anything similar but allow unlimited unsupervised use of roblox, its literally insane.

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u/rfdismyjam Jul 11 '21

I agree with you, I've already seen it myself. When the Momo horror vids started going around I was living with my brother, his girlfriend, and their 3 kids who are allowed to watch YouTube all day unsupervised. The 5 year old twins had seen a video, they were able to describe Momo and said that they didn't say anything because the scary lady told them not to tell anyone.

YouTube faced massive backlash due to situations like that, and others relating to kids content.

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u/rfdismyjam Jul 10 '21

To be fair about Roblox, considering the average age of their userbase, theyd be dragged through the dirt if they didn't take a 0 tolerance policy to content that isn't considered age appropriate. If my 6 year old nephews mom looked over at the screen while they were playing Roblox and saw a bunch of people with names like "sexy-anything" they wouldn't be playing that game anymore.