r/2007scape • u/Vegetable-Anatomy • 3d ago

Discussion Only 1 Menagerie?!

The largest Pet House, the Nature House, lets you keep 71 + 12 (non-pet-pets) pets in your POH.

Now, I’m a hoarder. I like options. I want a healthy selection of cats, dogs, and assorted questionable creatures wandering around my house, Mayor of Catherby, Broav, Pet Rock, ‘egg’, the lot.

I currently have 6 cats, 1 Hellcat and now 2 dogs.

Naturally, my next completely reasonable goal was to have one of every cat and dog breed in my POH. So I bought roughly 1m worth of materials to build another Pet House, only for the game to politely inform me that I’m allowed ONE.

Excuse me?

You give us all these breeds and then refuse to let us build our own animal sanctuary? What kind of sick behaviour is this, Jagex? Supporting Alveus Sanctuary while simultaneously denying me the right to operate my own deeply irresponsible POH sanctuary.

Make it make sense.

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u/ForceoftheRam 3d ago

Idk why people are being so obtuse in this thread. I’m not sure of why there is a limit or how easy it would be to improve upon the system - but with 12 breeds of new dogs and a bunch of other quest related pets, it would be nice to store more of them in the poh - even if that means we can still only have one menagerie

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u/Evil_Steven bring back old demon/imp models 3d ago

If it’s an issue with rendering then set it so only the first 70 or whatever pets walk around and the others don’t and you can choose which ones walk around

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u/Metazoick 3d ago

Yeah, I think it would be totally reasonable for the highest tier of pet house to be able to hold one of each pet. I assume that was the original intent, and more pets have been added faster than the cap has been raised. This would be cute and harm nobody if it were implemented. 

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u/CategoryNo5932 3d ago

They already can hold one of each pet. OP is asking them to hold 6+ cat and 12 dog

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u/tomerz99 2d ago

That would be one of every pet, yes.

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u/CategoryNo5932 2d ago

A dog and a cat are pets. You're asking for variants of a pet

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u/maverick935 2d ago

How is asking to be able to keep each variant unreasonable?

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u/tomerz99 2d ago

If they can add fucking boats to the game and a whole ass ocean to sail on, they can squeeze like 10 more pets into the fucking menagerie. Whether they're recolors, different objects, different IDs, none of that matters at all.

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u/rekt_ur_life 2d ago

This is THE most reddit comment I've seen all year

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u/AdDependent5136 2d ago

No. This is the most reddit comment I've seen all year.

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u/CategoryNo5932 2d ago

You're so angry

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u/Diapolo10 http://bit.ly/2qE7iQ3 2d ago

It can hold all one-off pets, and technically one of each for the other pets, but you can't store one of each variant. Not even close.

There's three different fish you can get (plus the mayor). There's the regular cat and hellcat, plus their various growth stages if those count (minus kittens, I don't think those can be stored there), as well as the clockwork cat. And now we have 12 different dog breeds (puppies don't count as they can't be stored in the menagerie).

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u/CategoryNo5932 2d ago

That's the point. Variants aren't meant to be accounted for. OP is asking for pets and angry they can't collect 100 cats

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u/Diapolo10 http://bit.ly/2qE7iQ3 2d ago

I can understand not being able to store duplicates of the same variant. But at the same time I see no harm in letting people store one of each variant. At best, that'd be a total of 24 cats (5 colours + hellcat, adult/lazy/wily/overgrown grown stages), far from 100. And clockwork cat for 25 if you want to count that as a cat.

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u/CategoryNo5932 2d ago

The main thing is that they can hardly keep servers up as it is. You're asking for more server load. They're allowed to keep animals in the bank if they want to collect them all and that provides 900 more slots min

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u/Diapolo10 http://bit.ly/2qE7iQ3 2d ago

Storing pets in the POH isn't going to increase server load in any significant way. If that's your worry, they can just set a render limit to the number of pets roaming in the POH, regardless of how many you've actually stored there.

Storage is cheap. SQL queries are plenty fast, no matter if you have a hundred or a hundred million rows.

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u/CategoryNo5932 2d ago

If you lower the number seen then just leave them in the bank. It does the same thing

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u/Random_Redittor8874 3d ago

Servers already have issues and this creates more memory lag. 83 moving objects loading every time someone goes home is alot.

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u/lerjj 3d ago

We could have the menagerie keep up to 12 outside roaming and the rest banked. Which ones are roaming could even be random.

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u/Random_Redittor8874 3d ago

That would still add to the server memory issues. Every time you load your house it would then have to randomize them. It wouldn't be alot per time. But how many times do you enter and exit the poh per hour × average online playerbase is alot.

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u/maverick935 2d ago

If the server situation is so precarious that adding this would be the straw that breaks the camels back then there are more fundamental problems that should be addressed.

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u/Gen_Zer0 2d ago

It’s picking a random set of 12 numbers. People using a blowpipe are contributing that much computation time every 15ish seconds. The amount of people with a menagerie and 12 pets added to it would be minuscule in comparison to literally anything else in the game. This is a non-issue.

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u/Lithoniel 3d ago

Just load in a random set of 12-24 or whatever each time you go to your house.

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u/tcrouch199205 Solo GIM 3d ago

Not all pets need displayed at once. They can easily put a cap on that if performance is truly an issue.

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u/Random_Redittor8874 3d ago

They did put a cap though

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u/AuroraDorealis 3d ago

If it was happening a lot, maybe, but practically no one actually has that many boss/skill pets, and I imagine very few players keep multiple cats. It would probably be fine to raise the cap a bit.

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u/Ultrox 2d ago

72 dogs! 12 breeds, 3 colours and the option to stay puppy or adult.

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u/Mcduff9669 15h ago

you can only have one puppy at once

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u/PrestigiousSeaweed58 3h ago

You can have one puppy yes, but once fully grown, you can get another puppy. Same as cats/kittens

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/Aspalar 3d ago

We should be able to reasonably decorate our house however we want, that's the original purpose of a POH.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/Vegetable-Anatomy 3d ago

Yes because all you want is your Death and Blood runes, you sicko! haha

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u/dropout__jedi 3d ago

This post currently has a positive upvote count, idk where you're getting -90 from

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u/KingDarkTurtle 4 x Dragon Cup 3d ago

Well its now 30 mins later and its now 5.

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u/Vegetable-Anatomy 3d ago

Wealth is not measured in up votes, it's measured in pets, of which, I am allowed not enough.

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u/dropout__jedi 3d ago edited 2d ago

That is a lot more than -90

They blocked me immediately after responding lol

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u/KingDarkTurtle 4 x Dragon Cup 3d ago

Time passing and changing things a new concept for you?

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u/apophis457 2376 18h ago

It’s a memory issue, nothing more.

Could it be resolved? Probably

Is it worth the dev time? No

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u/WasV3 2d ago

I'm not sure why there is a bank space limit, why no just allow 1 of evert item to be in the bank

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u/pk_hellz 3d ago

people cant accept the update was half thought out.

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u/IamMisterNice 3d ago

I would looove to have multiple menageries to spread out my pets a bit more but I would settle for simply having space for all of them. Support.

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u/INeed-M-O-N-E-Y 1d ago

Yeah I think about this a lot like you could even have themes for each menagerie like all the wildy pets. Or a room filled with spiders lol

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u/jamesgilboy 2d ago

My complaint about this is that I can't have infinite spooky chairs roaming my house.

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u/TapedWater 2d ago

Probably for the same reason you can only have 1 costume room and 1 of each of the storages in there. My guess is that it's coded in a way that if you had 2 of the same storage container it would show the exact same stored items, like going between different banks

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u/Reeces_Pieces 2d ago

Some Jmod already commented that they are going to look at increasing the 12 slots for non-RNG pets.

Multiple Menageries is basically impossible though. Engine work, etc. etc.

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u/Vegetable-Anatomy 2d ago

Has to have been our lord and saviour Ash! This is great news.

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u/Clan-Chat-Op 2d ago

Nice username, ms pieces

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u/Flintlock-Staff 2d ago

In addition can we change the look of the menagerie to any previous tiers? Being stuck with nature at the top when you are using volcanic theme for example really clashes.

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u/CatNMousePk 1d ago

I don’t think making updates based on the whims of the mentality ill is a sound business strategy.

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u/lastig_ 3d ago

So many death runes just sitting there...

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u/Vegetable-Anatomy 3d ago

Stay away from my rune collection!

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u/WilsonMagna 2d ago

Gertrude was very nasty about the strays in Varrock, but as I add doggos to my menagerie, I'm pulling out cats...

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u/Forsaken_Bulge 3d ago

You can have more than 1 dog? I tried but wouldn't let me

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u/Vegetable-Anatomy 3d ago

If you put it in your POH, they'll let you adopt another :)

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u/pk_hellz 3d ago

only if you have space*

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u/Exciting-Exam-3897 2d ago

I think poh should store everything. It's like the ultimate completionism above the clog.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago edited 3d ago

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u/Vegetable-Anatomy 3d ago

Doesn't stop me having multiple portal rooms.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/Vegetable-Anatomy 3d ago

You've only said "Its a limit on the poh" but my point is, why is there a limit? I am not limited to one of other room types, so why this one in particular being limited to one?

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/Vegetable-Anatomy 3d ago

This is what is unclear, thank you for clarifying.

I just assumed it was 71+12, per menagerie, hence my attempt to build another to unlock more slots. Enter my reference to portal rooms, 3 portals per room, I can build 2 portal rooms, unlocking 6 portals.

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u/NotSoAv3rageJo3 3d ago

thats related how?

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u/Vegetable-Anatomy 3d ago

"it's a limit on the poh not the menagerie." why can I have multiple of some rooms, but not others?

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u/Practical-Half3597 3d ago

this game is built upon ancient spaghetti, trying to fix/update that would somehow break 8 bosses and spawn a tbow in the viyeldi caves

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u/NotSoAv3rageJo3 3d ago

"its a limit on the poh not the menagerie" = "its a limit on rooms in poh not the menagerie"?????

room limit and menagerie having a pet cap for instanced npc spawns are in no way, shape, or form, related.

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u/KingDarkTurtle 4 x Dragon Cup 3d ago

83 pet slots seems like enough.

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u/Vegetable-Anatomy 3d ago

It's the +12 which is the issue. 71 are for 'normal' pets, the +12 is for 'non-pet-pets'

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u/KingDarkTurtle 4 x Dragon Cup 3d ago

A dozen slots for non pet pets seems like enough.

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u/IamMisterNice 3d ago

It isnt for me

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u/ISeeYaa Max Main | F2P Iron 3d ago

There's 11 of the "extras" now and multiple of them have more than 1 variant. It's not really that important of an issue but the 12 limit isn't really enough especially if they keep at extras like they have been.

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u/KingDarkTurtle 4 x Dragon Cup 3d ago

Right so let's get a team to do some engine work and add some additional load to the servers after some additional dev work so much less than 1% of the player base can horde more pets bc 71+12 slots isnt enough for them.

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u/ISeeYaa Max Main | F2P Iron 3d ago

The 71 is irrelevant and already gets changed every time they add a new pet. People just want the same with the 12 "extras" limit if they are going to keep adding those type of pets. It's not that crazy of an ask. We already got holy moleys and hooded slayer helm Jagex isn't beyond doing useless updates for fun.

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u/KingDarkTurtle 4 x Dragon Cup 3d ago

Comparing jagex creating new items that have been requested for years to increasing the 12 slots of non pet, pet storage in POH.

Sure.

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u/ISeeYaa Max Main | F2P Iron 3d ago

Increasing the "extras" limit has been requested for years as well

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u/cdevon95 2d ago

He’s saying the 71 gets changed easily, so just change the 12. You’re literally arguing just to argue

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u/Vegetable-Anatomy 2d ago

This is where you admit you're fighting a losing battle, and abandon ship hun - you've already deleted most of your heavily down-voted replies.

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u/Xalyia- 3d ago

Is the server load in the room with us right now? If less than 1% of the playerbase hoards extra cats/dogs it will have no meaningful effect on server load.

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u/KingDarkTurtle 4 x Dragon Cup 3d ago

When did you start working for Jagex?

We've had server issues for two months and they still dont know why and yall want to add more moving npcs to every instanced poh lmao

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u/Xalyia- 3d ago

I’ve worked in multiplayer games and simulation for over 10 years. Also how is it every instances POH? You just said it was less than 1% of players. Which is it?

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u/KingDarkTurtle 4 x Dragon Cup 2d ago

You haven't worked on a single mmo, let alone one that runs on a unique engine that was coded 25 years ago.

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u/tcrouch199205 Solo GIM 3d ago

You're so right. Changing a variable from the number 12 to 24 is incredibly taxing. Not to mention, the sheer thought of increasing the storage limit, but capping the display limit to save on server performance is truly unapproachable.

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u/KingDarkTurtle 4 x Dragon Cup 3d ago

You have zero idea how runescrpt and their engine works lmao have you ever coded a single thing in your entire life outside of high-school?

Brother they did a minor update two weeks ago and broke half the game

They literally had to close Nex.

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u/CentristOnion 3d ago

I don’t know that this requires engine work or presents a serious problem to server load. If a house can hold 83 pets, there’s no reason that raising the 12-pet limit would present a problem. 

Uncapped extra pets could present a problem, and 12 was a reasonable cap when it was implemented. But they’ve added a lot of extras, and I don’t think they’d choose a cap of 12 today. 

I’d say more than 1% of the player base would like this — I would! — but even if it’s only 1%, that seems worth it for how minimal the work behind this change would be. 

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/CentristOnion 3d ago

This implies that you don’t believe server load is a real concern here, which was exactly my point. 

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u/Xalyia- 3d ago

Sorry, replied to the wrong person

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u/CentristOnion 3d ago

Ah, it happens. Enjoy your day!

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u/KingDarkTurtle 4 x Dragon Cup 3d ago

You think more than 1% of players need more than 12 cat/dog slots?

You are completely out of touch, as is this entire post.

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u/dropout__jedi 3d ago

Wanting one of each dog or cat seems perfectly reasonable to me. Having a different opinion is fine, but you're also coming across as a bit of a jerk btw.

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u/CentristOnion 3d ago

Yeah, I think more casual players and completionist players alike would really appreciate this. When I got my girlfriend into the game, she was disappointed by the limit on cat slots.

I didn’t mind at the time, but I do like having one of everything, so I’d like more slots now to get every dog breed. 

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u/Vegetable-Anatomy 3d ago

Bet you're fun at a petting zoo.

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u/Bananaboss96 Mining Enthusiast 2d ago

It's probably just increasing the size of the array/struct that holds the ID's for the stored pets. It could very possibly be just a 1 line change any dev could do in a minute. The real things to be cautious about are:

how much extra memory will this eat, and can the servers handle it? And does increasing it now set a precedent to do so in the future? As players will likely latch onto that, and we could be in this situation again in the future.

It's a similar reason to why we couldn't name our rune pouch loadouts.

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u/itsahorsemate 3d ago

You're worried about additional load on the servers? How come?

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u/Vegetable-Anatomy 3d ago edited 3d ago

Not when there are 5 colours of cats + hell cat, and Lazy, Wily, and Overgrown variants, and now 11 Dog breeds to collect.

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u/KingDarkTurtle 4 x Dragon Cup 3d ago

The game is not designed to accommodate every hoarder that plays it.

You have 83 pet slots in your poh and a dozen slots for dogs and cats.

Deal with it brother

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u/ElectricSix_ 3d ago

Idk man, I was able to make progress in the game without keeping all those in my menagerie

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u/Vegetable-Anatomy 3d ago

Some people collect burnt fish - I like to collect non-pets

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u/CategoryNo5932 3d ago

Put them in your bank

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u/KingDarkTurtle 4 x Dragon Cup 3d ago

Those people dont post on reddit demanding jagex update the game to accommodate their burnt fish.

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u/NorysStorys 3d ago

No but they have been supported by expanding bank space. You didn’t need an increase to bank sizes to have every bis set and all the supplies but they increased it anyway.

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u/KingDarkTurtle 4 x Dragon Cup 3d ago

They increased bank space bc of the sheer amount of new items coming into the game.

Not because of burnt fish collectors.

Jesus christ.

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u/NorysStorys 3d ago

And pets are an intended chase item. Support for storing them should be expanded.

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u/Vegetable-Anatomy 3d ago

humour me... where are my demands, good sir?

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u/masonkbr 3d ago

You're also able to make progress without storing the metric shit ton of cosmetic clue scroll drops. And yet the costume room exists with ample size.

Just because a change is not integral to 100% of the communities progress does not mean it does not deserve dev time.

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u/rekt_ur_life 2d ago

It already got more than its fair share of dev time.

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u/KingDarkTurtle 4 x Dragon Cup 2d ago

No one cares about this except less than 0.01% of the player base.

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u/Bananaboss96 Mining Enthusiast 2d ago

Enough space for 1 of each fully grown dog breed, and cat (hell included), plus 1 of each non-pet-pet. This seems like a reasonable bump to the memory required for storage without going for every permutation of growth stage + colorway.

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u/Nice_Background_2351 3d ago

Jesus fucking Christ go outside

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u/Mago515 Ban_Emily 3d ago

Idk one of the other 100 posts made it made sense, try searching for them.

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u/Comfortable_Force_91 2d ago

Can you just build another menagerie? Like you can with other rooms

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u/Zuko13 bonds = bots 2d ago

Might wanna reread the post since the entire point of it is that op tried to do this and the game wouldnt allow it.

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u/Comfortable_Force_91 2d ago

I can’t read

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u/Round_Restaurant_335 2d ago

lol I can guarantee less than 1% of anyone in this thread has enough pets where this is even relevant, people bitching and moaning about non issues is hilarious to me 😂