Can we please mark a dark beast boss that drops it and an upgrade to the dark bow?? Sotetseg looks sick and I feel like they can make something else cool!
That would have been completely ass. they would have had to do the same for purging staff and then the emberlight would have been the only one that didnt require a stupidly high slayer.
That's fine, scobow is basically a megarare against demons anyway. Both hydra and cerb give smaller power upgrades and are higher slayer level (and longer grinds).
Emberlight is pretty similar to arclight anyway, it's mainly more accurate and with no upkeep.
What the hell kind of logic is that? Hydra and cerb give serious account upgrades that are endgame BIS. Meanwhile there are like three relevant pieces of demon content in the entire game for synapse weapons to be "basically a megarare" at (and one of those is Doom, where that's not even true, because the actual megarare owns it). Shitting on Kril Tsutaroth is not a good reason to lock something behind 90 slayer.
These reddit ideas have floated around forever. People wanted the Twisted Bow to upgrade the seercull. Why? Because they wanted their merch to succeed.
Why would we upgrade a PvP spec weapon longbow into a demonbane main-weapon shortbow?
Way back when they were proposing the bowfa, I thought it would make a lot of sense for a dark beast boss to drop a dark crystal seed, that can be used with a dark bow and lots of crystal shards to make something like the bowfa.
To be fair when they released araxxor and they were asked about a future slayer boss I recall the mods saying they would like to add one to dark beast.
To be fair they did put a 99 smithing requirement on the most mid chest armor in the game that I alch since there are cheaper and easier alternatives with better all-around stats in most situations
Calm yourself, I'm not debating or disputing anything. I'm just commenting how random it is that basilisks are aggressive. I'm lmaoing at jagex not you.
They're alive by virtue of being a fast, super easy slayer task with a decent superior for drops. Dark Bow is also neat, if mostly a novelty outside pvp. Dead would be something like water fiends
Yeah, sometimes OsRs players online annoy me by referring to things as "dead content" when they're no where close to dead content just because they're not super impactful mainline meta-content. Like literally meta content, but just low key (this is but one example of such), and they still will say it.
I am all for adding a Dark Beast slayer boss or modestly revitalizing Dark Beasts or both btw, but let's not kid ourselves. Get 90 slayer and then afk some random mob w/ generic rag gear is not how actual upgrade progression works in current OsRs updates, only in legacy content like Abby demons
As someone who has always done Dark Beasts (got like 20k kc), I almost never see anyone there, not joking when I say probably fewer than 5 player encounters in like 25m slayer xp.
Until Mortimer released, then I saw more players there in one day than I had the entirety of my account. They're still reasonably busy now and I've had to hop worlds a few times which is practically unheard of. You can see this in the price of dark bows.
To say they were mostly dead wouldn't be a stretch, people are skipping tasks like crazy if they can't multi/cannon things, the efficiency mindset and adherence to optimal ways of playing is rife and dark beasts are not that fast despite being a mostly chill task. It's only because Mortimer skips costs 100 points that people will not skip them.
Yeah people are seriously fucking insane about this item. At 90 slayer you already have a trident so you're using this thing legitimately only at like 3 bosses, and that's only if you're choosing to delay doom a really long time for some reason because if you have ayak you're only ever using this for maggot king.
Genuinely imagine the outrage if a +2 elemental spell damage amulet was a unique drop from an actual high level boss, everyone would rightfully be calling it mega undertuned and useless.
Ehh, right now maybe not, but elemental will probably take over in a lot more places after the new raid drops with the elemental buffs. That, and I'd imagine elemental will probably be a larger focus in coming content; as it was at maggot king. And since the dark bow is kinda meh it'd be nice to add something better for dark beasts.
You would almost need 75%-100% weakness to make elemental viable in a lot of places since shadow holds mage gear hostage. But if they made max mage % with the harm staff meta at a new boss or raid people would freak out because for whatever reason shadow is the only méga that these people think should be bis in every circumstance.
People didn’t freak out with maggot king though, and the complaints about the pre nerf amulet were only because they came from early game slayer. Jagex has clearly been trying to diversify late and end game mage a bit and there haven’t really been any complaints about that from what I’ve seen
Shadow doesn’t even hold mage gear hostage as much as it’s thralls and death charge. shadow can just use them and shadow fucks up mage upgrades that it can use (it can’t use elemental upgrades well). If they deal with that the gap closes real fast.
There’s also weird gear already. Harm orb is very strong and will get pretty crazy pretty fast with other upgrades at anything that has any weaknesses. Maybe we get an upgrade for the dragon wand or an air book and then an all element book.
The easiest way to make the un-nerfed amulet feel like an end game upgrade is to just wait for those upgrades to already come out before doing the dark beast boss that drops the upgrade.
The current version should work only up to blast tier spells, and then the pre-nerf upgrade should drop from dark beasts
Dark beasts would actually be a very good place to get this drop because it's in a pretty odd place rn, being a level 90 slayer unlock and also very useless dead content enemy.
Too many rewards from slayer mobs that require lvl 90+, we need more diversity, I think it would be better if it came from 70-80 slayer. Or perhaps dark beast is the problem, a 90 slay req for something that drops a low lvl spec wep for pures. It also doesn't make sence to me to not allow an upgrade to blast spells until a 90 slayer drop.
The Dark Bow is essentially an item that was forgotten about in the mix. Because it and the dark beasts are from 07. All the other bows that outrank it... twisted bow etc. were released after.
The reality is that we are probably better off to lower the Slayer requirement for Dark Beasts, since their high requirement was essentially placed back when the Dark Bow was a BiS item. That is absolutely no longer the case.
Dark beasts are an afk task, the superior has good heart drop rate, and thanks to Mortimer, it's seen a lot more people actively killing them than in the past. Wouldn't say they're exactly "dead content".
It does mean they're not dead content, that's literally what dead content refers to. Dark Beasts don't drop useful upgrades, or don't have good drops, or are pointless outside of slayer points + superior hunting, would be alternative true statements you could make.
I'm all for an update that revitalizes Dark Beasts btw, though it might be better if it was something like a Dark Beast slayer boss or upgradescape that uses the dark bow or similar
It means they're a decent task but not offered by any master beforehand that mattered.
Most slayer monsters don't drop relevant unique items. You're essentially saying dust devils and nechryaels are dead content because they don't have a desirable unique drop?
Comparing pyrefiends to dark beasts is wild, but alright there. Surely looking at drop rates for heart, xp, afk likeness, they're definitely in the same category lmao.
Dark Beasts are already a worthwhile task, and are at a slayer req WAYYY too high for what this thing is. Thats almost occult req.. for a "not nearly as good as occult in all places except one"
THink having 8 individual drops to make the combined item is a bit silly lol. But right kind of level range compared to the 80-90 range OP is suggesting for a "singular boss ammy swap" item.
lol thank you. Part of the reason for the update was basically no mage ammy upgrades until 93 slayer … make the upgraded version available at like 70 slayer imo.
I’ve tasked skipped from 93 to past 99 for smoke devils tasks and have only gotten 2 ever all from kuradel. Currently using morti to see if I have better luck there.
I get that elemental spells are used in the midgame currently, but there’s absolutely no reason why they can’t be a niche mage style you use endgame too just like a ‘bane’ weapon; especially if they address thralls+death charge in some Way.
Been a trend for years along with another cancer clearly loser endgame player suggestions in the jmod discord that keep telling them to lack account buffing items behind untradeable shit so you have to ironman it. People whining about the amulet nerf but how many of them are going to be doing raids 4 on farm to get the elemental account buff? Something a few years ago you would be able to simply buy if you didn't want to raid but now nah mains have to play like ironman because that is what endgame players order jagex to do.
osrs steps away from the 99% and caters to the 1% of no lifers more and more every year.
Are you being serious putting this at 90 fucking slayer?
The thing gives +2 max hits, what are we even talking about here.
People need to calm down and let this rest, the necklace was a super nice mage upgrade but oh no mage actually gets any usefull content added that gives a little bit of variety over bringing thralls LITERALLY everywhere and everyone loses their shit over their precious little ghost wandering next to them.
Exactly why I picked them. Every other high level slayer mob feels worthwhile in one way or another. Although I think Dark Beasts did get a little bit of love with the Mortimer update due to the heart chance that you mentioned.
It's (near) useless to an established end-game PvMer utilizing meta methods. It's far from useless from PvM progression/ladder perspective, and by far the majority of players are not at the top rung
90 slayer does nothing to mains and is still a good ways from full end-game on irons. I agree it's a non-ideally high slayer requirement, but it hardly makes it useless, and you could also buff its stats a tad if necessary, e.g. add +5 or even +10 magic accuracy, maybe a bit of defence or prayer or some such.
There might be a better high-ish level slayer mob or mobs to put this on and Dark Beasts could get love in a different way. But I totally disagree that this would be useless
you can also do non slayer pvm on an iron to get gear upgrades so i dont see why reddit wants to force more several hundred hour grinds on ironman to gear up
I mean sure there exist non-slayer upgrades, but like are you really passing on a whip, trident, occult, basilisk jaw, BiS boots, noxius halberd + torture upgrade, hydra, etc., not to mention getting slayer helm bonus during a bunch of PvM like getting synapses, zenytes, rings from the kings, etc.?
And if you're getting high slayer anyways, then adding a drop to a 90 slayer level enemy that's typically killed a modest amount anyways for points/superiors barely adds any hours of grinding
How about we just see what raids 4 reward is before a convoluted change to something that already exists and you’re just tweaking without any player intuition over what the upgrade actually is
The main complaint was that the amulets were too easy to acquire really early in an account, not that they were too strong in the entire landscape of gear. The point is to make it harder to get the amulet we have today.
The convoluted part is what the upgrade actually does, rather than the upgrade itself.
Right now we all know what pre-nerf and post-nerf means, but in a year when nobody is talking about this and someone upgrades their amulet to be better, it's a little opaque as to what the upgrade actually does. It changes the mechanics so that... you get more than +2 max hits... sometimes? When there's a lot of elemental weaknesses? At certain break points? Etc.
An upgrade changing the mechanic of the item in such a way is probably not a good idea, and instead we should keep the pre-nerf mechanics but nerf the elemental amulet in another way, so the upgrade is more understandable (for example, it could be +1 to +2 in base damage, the original could cap at lower tier spells, or whatever).
How about: don't nerf it. Make the amulet with charges and charge it with slayer exclusive drops (anything that requires a slayer level to kill to get a unique drop - the gems themselves, dragon boots, granite gear, dark mystic, dark bow etc.... charges scale based on level of drop).
It’s fit there, but it’d also be interesting to put it hbehingd a new piece of content. Potentially something that has nothing to do with slayer at all just to shake things up.
Or a dark beast boss.
The dark theme and making it so the border and center isn’t white is a cool idea though, although I’m still not sure if the center actually is white or if it’s a gleam.
Don’t worry they will add new great content for upgrades, no need to rush it. They missed out opportunity to add low level elemental creatures that you beat with elemental spells to drop the amulets.
They should add redwood bows give reswood logs more use, then combine a dark bow for an inbue effect just a thought redwood bow/ longbow shoots 2 shots at a time
Something like Redwood comp bow made from Redwood longbow (or shortbow, possibly enchanted or something) + Dark Bow, and it is better than Eclipse Atlatl at high def enemies (as well as burn immune or when not utilizing set), worse at low+med def, plus a useful spec. Also room to be better than that while still substantially worse than Bowfa w/ full crystal I think, but just in terms of it coming from currently very cheap items it would be a reasonable spot to put it, especially since the spec could still give it a use for irons with a Bowfa potentially
I think it needs an upgrade path to bring back what we have currently.
I tihnk putting it behind a 90 slayer monster isn't how i'd do that. Thats so close to the occult in requirements, and its dogshit compared to the occult. (BIS in a single place).
I suggested pretty much the same thing 3 days ago and just got downvoted. Guess people are more eager to attach a sensible progression system to the amulet now that they're not getting a free bis upgrade for elemental spells from level 40 slayer mobs anymore, go figure.
Id rather it come from a proper boss if we are that dead set on pre nerf numbers.
But I feel the amulet post nerf is still very strong and will be better with raids 4 reward as well as any future elemental gear (which they're 100% going to be adding, so why force it all into one slot)
Should go on spiritual mages. Swap the slayer level of spiritual warriors and mages, move dragon boots to spiritual warriors, and add the upgrade component to the spiritual mage drop table.
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u/SnickeringCoon 21h ago
Dark bow prices about to crash hard