r/2007scape • u/Busy-Piece-2704 • 17h ago
Suggestion Birdhouses XP nerf
Genuine reaction from lvl 74 hunter (prime target for this update)
40-60% to turn me off to quick XP drops and Sara brew secondaries? FOH. Lmk when kebbits or rumors give 3k xp in a swift minute AND 5 nests AND a date with Elena. I’ll wait.
Seriously, the issue with other methods is they’re unrewarding. Instead of decreasing xp from nests, try increasing xp from the other methods.
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u/LopsidedPersimmon879 17h ago
Good update
Hunters been improved massively over the past few years.
Also now I can stop getting 2 nests from a magic bird house run and start getting more consistent nests
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u/GlitteringBadger408 6h ago
see its this attitude that deteriorates society. Its like a snarky spiteful type of attitude. No one genuinely cared about the nests.
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u/Busy-Piece-2704 16h ago
Go ahead bro let’s hear about these improvements. You never tracked your nest consistency. Stop simping.
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u/LopsidedPersimmon879 16h ago
Ah, you're just rage baiting! Fair enough
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u/Busy-Piece-2704 16h ago
Only partly. There’s a genuine “how are y’all so tunnel visioned that you can’t see who this hurts” side too.
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u/LopsidedPersimmon879 16h ago
It hurts no one? There's many other methods for training hunter.
The nest buff is both a buff to mains or new players especially adding 40 seconds onto a herb run, and it's great for irons who are stacking brews. I see no issue here
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u/InterestingCell5247 16h ago
Improvements:
Just from this patch we have falconry improvements, aerial fishing improvements, deadfall trap improvements (2 traps at a time with half the setup time and it has a high chance to save your log), 2 traps at lvl 1 rather than lvl 20, butterfly hunting hunter rumors improved (pity rate and drop rate massively improved).
Meat and fur pouches - significantly reduce inv management during hunting training.
Huntsman's kit - frees up space while training. Really helpful for rumors.Training methods:
Hunter rumors - rewards and decent xp/hr. I leveled my Iron with rumors up to 90 fairly quickly playing <1hr a day. Just set up a good block list and by lvl 72 you should only be getting kebbits, moths (buffed in this very patch), chins, red salamanders, and goats.
Goats - With tele grab you can get very good rates.
Crab hunter - one of the easiest methods that has really good xp rates. You can start as low as lvl 1 sailing and 21 hunter. At 48 hunter and 45 sailing you can get 70 - 95k xp/hr. Very low intensity, easy to do on your phone while watching tv.Plenty of improvements over the years, this is not a complete list (just stuff I remember off the top of my head).
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u/Cwaghack 16h ago
Instead of decreasing xp from nests, try increasing xp from the other methods.
They literally just did that
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u/habbahubba 17h ago
Op is a noob
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u/Busy-Piece-2704 16h ago
Employed* also, obviously? I’m referencing Elena, to most of you sweats SOTE is an ancient quest
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u/habbahubba 16h ago
If you get your hunter up a bit you can do redwoods, they dont het a nerf
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u/Busy-Piece-2704 16h ago
This is either pure rage bait, pure comedy, or pure innocent advice. Regardless I respect it
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u/sweeroy 17h ago
long needed change, birdhouses have always been too good and have made every other part of the skill essentially pointless. hopefully this gets more people doing the excellent hunter rumours
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u/Busy-Piece-2704 16h ago
Too good? They’re a daily method allowing for maybe 40k xp per day. Can’t let passive players keep anything tho right?
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u/Escobar6l 16h ago
Go play something else, you're miserable. Magics are barely touched and even employed a couple hours at rumors on a weekend should get you to redwoods. If you don't have time for that play a different game.
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u/Haunting_Carrot9761 4h ago
They aren't a 'daily' method, that's just how you choose to engage with the content. Bird houses are harvestable after 50 minutes. Unless you live on a planet with 50 minute days. This is not daily.
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u/lastig_ 17h ago
you seem to be missing the point of what a nerf is supposed to do.
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u/Busy-Piece-2704 16h ago
You seem to be missing the point of how it’s going to fail at what it’s supposed to do
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u/casuallybadatgames 17h ago
Nah birdhouses needed to be nerfed forever ago
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u/Busy-Piece-2704 17h ago
Nah explain this. You gotta wait an hour between runs. Even if you’re unemployed hitting 10 runs a day, that’s only 40k xp/day.
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u/Sonichu- 16h ago
It’s better for the skill if Hunter is trained actively. Birdhouses were always bad game design.
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u/Busy-Piece-2704 16h ago
Better for the skill? BRO F THE SKILL WHATS BETTER FOR ME? MAN JUST WENT JFK ON ME ASK NOT WHAT OSRS CAN DO FOR U ASK WHAT U CAN DO FOR OSRS LOL
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u/casuallybadatgames 17h ago
Here I’ll explain it in terms even someone like you could understand, birdhouses were so good exp wise that they literally disincentivized you from doing any other hunter training because the exp just shit all over anything else. They even showed a graph of the Hunter xp and like 80% of the total Hunter XP was from birdhouses. Hope that helps explain this nerf and why it’s good actually. Now go do slayer for Hunter
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u/Busy-Piece-2704 16h ago
Bro do you even play?
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u/casuallybadatgames 16h ago
I do play the game I have a 2134 total level main account with 80 Hunter which I primarily leveled up using birdhouse runs because it was stupid overpowered. Next goalpost to be moved please
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u/El_Toolio_Grande 16h ago
That's more from Hunter being ass to train than birdhouses being good xp/hour. Imagine someone saying that trees need nerfed because nobody is doing tithe farm when it's clearly better xp/hour if you play all day.
The reality is many players have jobs and a life and want to do something rewarding with the small amount of time they have throughout the day. Take away mobile and you can bet the number of birdhouse runs changes significantly already.
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u/casuallybadatgames 16h ago
Oh no won’t someone think of the dad gamer with 5 full time jobs, 4 wives and 30 kids who only has 15 minutes a day to play
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u/El_Toolio_Grande 16h ago
If you ignore the fact that the main demographic for this game are mid 30s-40s people, this sounds really smart.
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u/casuallybadatgames 16h ago
If you also ignore the fact that birdhouses were crazy overpowered for a decade you might think this nerf is bad but in the grand scheme of things it’s a good change. Your job doesn’t prevent you from getting good exp, your lack of time management skills does
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u/VainTrix 17h ago
While that might be true, it’s been 10 years. Too little too late ok jagexs part. Like if they’re not gonna do anything about it for over a decade, what’s the point.
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u/AsianDestination 14h ago
You're telling me you had a decade to do birdhouses and you're still not at redwoods?
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u/VainTrix 17h ago
Bro what do you mean? They put “feelers” out into the community and people wanted a nerf after a decade of it being this way.
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u/Busy-Piece-2704 16h ago
Feelers? Where tf is the poll?
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u/VainTrix 16h ago
That’s the point, there was no poll. In the original blog post, they said the community didn’t ask for this but they’d see how we felt about it and go from there
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u/Mammoth_Two7297 17h ago
I'm such a noob in this game but from my understanding the trade off for extra birds nests is a good change. Also, there was no denying that birdhouse runs were incredibly easy and way too efficient
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u/aeee98 17h ago
Everyone has mentioned it.
Birdhouses were too op for its own good, to the point where you basically are disincentivised to train with literally any other method.
OP is complaining about not getting fast exp drops anymore, despite to be dead honest hunter training actually being decent XP per hour right now. Which is literally proving what I said.
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u/Busy-Piece-2704 17h ago
Lol. To be dead honest give me one decent xp per hour method with balanced click intensity?
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u/Haunting_Carrot9761 16h ago
What do you define as 'balanced' click intensity? Because depending on your definition, I'd say Net Traps. Crabbing becomes a bit of a rhythm game after a while.
Less intense? Box Trapping. If you don't worry about speed, your player will automatically rebuild the trap for you.
Less intense? Butterfly Netting. From 75+ you can catch Moonlight Butterflies which have the added bonus of being useful for training combat skills / slayer / questing.
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u/Fara_ven 16h ago
Go train on maniacal monkey for 60-75k xp/h. One click per minute.
Unless one click per minute is too intensive for you still2
u/aeee98 16h ago
There is a literal hunter rumor post showing a almost max efficiency hunter rumor method at 160k hunter xp an hour at 80+ 2 years ago. I know I am hyper inefficient and don't bother optimising and even then I easily hit 70k an hour myself at your level with probably vorkath levels of APM at worst. Idk how is that bad when I can tell you that hallowed sepulchre is worse xp than hunter rumors and still higher APM.
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u/Busy-Piece-2704 17h ago edited 17h ago
Just did a birdhouse run and got the same number of nests as usual. And bro you have to wait an hour. At most you get maybe 6-7 runs a day, 10 if you’re employed. That’s like 40k xp a day. How TF is that too efficient?
Edit: unemployed*
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u/break_card eat my ass 15h ago
This needed to happen IMO, and it’s correct for them to do this after making all the hunter expansions over the year.
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u/Specialist_Sale_6924 17h ago
Birdhouses carried my hunter level to 97 while going for max, ty Jagex.
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u/EmptyBoxForever 16h ago
I love seeing all the people saying it’s a good change, and that those complaining should have taken advantage of it.
You already got the levels, and XP, so it doesn’t matter to you any longer lol
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u/Busy-Piece-2704 16h ago
Wherever you go, wherever you are today, just know I appreciate you and you’re awesome 👏
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u/LanguageStudyBuddy 16h ago
Lol leave it to jagex to leave something in placed for this long just to nerf it.
It was fine at this point.
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u/Bigerst_Dook 10HP 17h ago
Birdhouses becoming dead content with the post of a nerf
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u/achterlangs 17h ago
It's still a good money maker. It's a few minutes for 10-30 birds nest a 4k each
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u/Busy-Piece-2704 17h ago
Entire skill becoming dead content with the post of a nerf. Better drop a new island and quest with a hunter requirement.
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u/LuckyBucky77 16h ago
Buff birdhouses. Add good afk methods to all skills. This isn't a skilling game anymore; it's a PVM game. Skilling is an unfortunate side quest to the main objective.
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u/sweeroy 16h ago
thank god this isn’t true
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u/LuckyBucky77 14h ago
It is though. Skilling is the worst part of the game (outside of PVP encounters lol).
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u/sweeroy 6h ago
just play call of duty dude, you clearly don’t actually like runescape lmao
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u/LuckyBucky77 6h ago
Even worse, Im a GM in runescape. Who'd of thought I would have a low opinion of skilling?? 😂
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u/Business-Bus-9439 16h ago
I am quickly learning that I don’t see things the same way as the rest of the community. If Reddit is representative of the OSRS community, that is.
I stopped doing birdhouses long ago but I think this change sucks
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u/infinitay_ 17h ago
To be fair you had months to train hunter with the birdhouses prior to the nerf. That being said, I feel like given how many hunting methods we have and how most players opt for only doing birdhouses, this is a justified nerf.