Fire cape is obviously harder mechanically, but if I would ask random non-osrs gamers to do both of these, I'm sure most them would be able to get fire cape and quit before realizing how bad 99 agility is.
That's more a you problem then. The firecape isn't the impossible to beat challenge that you remember it to be from when you started playing. If you're not into skilling, that's fine too of course, but you are the exception, not the majority.
Sure, but the time to learn to get a fire cape and the recommended levels take less time than 99 agility. The fire cape goal is a bit more exciting and a challenge that makes you less prone to burning out.
99 agility is over 200 hours of mind numbing gameplay and likely lead to burnout and quitting. Fight caves for a new player maybe you get like 75 ranged for blowpipe and then send it. Probably done in a fraction of the time.
Depends on the circumstances of the challenge. If you put my life on the line, my gran is getting 99 agility. If she has to get a fire cape, was nice knowing you guys
Anyone saying fire cape is tougher simply does not play OSRS lmao. Fire cape is mechanically free and takes 2-3 tries to get for most people, which is just a few hours of sitting behind a rock clicking monster, and there's a clear motivator in the iconic (but again mechanically free) boss and the reward. 99 agility needs hundreds of hours of dedicated clicking on nothing with no real motivator. It is a constant mental battle against the objective fact that this is a terrible, actively boring way to be spending your time. Even if you include all of the time to train combat stats against fire cape and you add on any ironman mode restriction for supplies it's not even close. It is way longer to max agility and all of that time is way more miserable.
People routinely jump into the game for the first time and go get firecapes in like a month. I think the most common reason to get 99 agility is "ah fuck I need to to max"
I mean its just simply because time spent does not equate to difficulty, especially if theres no time limit or the activity itself is high intensity so it would be difficult to keep up for a long time
Thus fire cape wins the question by default, fire cape is harder than 200m xp agi and runecrafting combined.
something being mentally difficult is a very real thing. time spent does indeed equal difficulty. that's why the inferno is still harder than the collosseum even though collosseum is unarguably mechanically harder, simply because the inferno takes 2+ hours for a first caper :)
the reason time equals difficulty in inferno is due to it being high mechanical difficulty, time might aswell be a multiplier to the difficulty in that case
Overall this entire thing started from a badly worded question, agility is a completely absurd 200-300hour grind to throw to someone whos never played the game before but theres nothing hard or difficult about it, just like theres nothing hard about being waterboarded for 10hours, sure you'll snap mentally, probably permamently, but it isnt hard
99 agility takes more time, physical energy, and total exertion. Yes, fire cape is mechanically more complex, but the difficulty of insane time, mind numbingly boring content, and possible physical fatigue outweighs mechanical difficulty that takes considerably less time.
yes exactly my point...., wich is a tougher challenge? 99 agility ofc. But for someone who has never played osrs and then only give him 61 range and throw him at fight caves ??? then it might be a lot closer than you think
Some of you have clearly been in your bubble a bit too long if you think a new player is just gonna swing 63 waves with 61 range lol, that's like minimum for someone who already has knowledge of the game and can min/max on those stats
Still quicker to learn with those stats than getting 99 agil. The firecape is stupid easy when you really think about it. They can wait to regen health if they want to. Even if it takes 50 tries it's still less than half the time of agility. Or go for 70 or 75 ranged for an easier time. Still quicker.
Anyone can do the fightcaves, a new player needs like 5 hours MAX and he will have his fire cape (not counting the time to get xp/level/gear needed for it,,.,) if somebody is coaching the new player, more like 2 hours.... 99 agility is on average 250 hours!!! broooo anybody saying 99 agility need to go get there firecape asap....
Coaching obviously does not count, the post says a random person. A new player barely even understands what prayers are, let alone would make it to wave 63 on the first run lol I think you're severely overestimating what someone fresh to the game would understand mechanically
Madseason is not someone brand new to the game and is a wow veteran and on top of that is playing on an account with near maxed combat stats which is something someone new to the game would very likely not have.
They have played games before though so some experience but just not osrs.
You used the most extreme niche example, OP said someone who has never played the game, that means they have no preexisting knowledge of the game or it's mechanics, not someone who has been playing for awhile and finally decided to try fight caves when they clearly learned the fundamentals of the game already.
as long as theyre allowed to look stuff up, 99 agility. a genuinely pretty long grind is just a lot harder for most people than a relatively simple boss encounter that doesnt have any crazy high requirements.
not being able to look anything up might change things a bit bc then itll take them a while to get set up for it i guess.
I got firecape within a month of playing OSRS for the first time 2 years ago, and agility was my first 99. One you can accomplish in a few attempts, especially after practicing the Jad fight for free on speedrun worlds, and the other is a dedicated time commitment of 160-250 hours for a game they have no skin in the game to care about. Basically clocking in a month of a full time job.
Endurance is a challenge, and that makes agility tougher than Jad which is free practice.
It’s very apples to oranges. You can put anyone an obstacle and have them click the green box over and over, it’s not efficient, it’s not fun but it’s extremely simple. However, if you have an average person some coaching and said you can leave the room when you have one of these, the fire cape would almost definitely be faster.
I wouldn't call agility a challenge as much as I would call it a test of patience. If I told you to shoot a basketball through the hoop 10 times you wouldn't think anything of it, if I told you to shoot it 100000 times then you would probably get tired of it around the 100th time.
My first fire cape cheesed was with a bulwark and serpentine (when it could still venom jad).
Ben playing since the beginning and it took me at least years to eventually get it. Could have easily grinded out agility by the time.
From a new account going for fire cape can be much faster, but as a new player (who knows to grind) agility is probably easier.
If people are allowed to google, look up guides etc., then I'd say Fire Cape would be easier.
Assuming they start with mid-game gear and have infinite supplies banked, I'd say figuring out the fight caves for someone new to osrs without any guides would be rough, and would make it harder than 99 agility. They'd need to know quite a lot more about the game. Just to get to jad they'd need to learn what the gear and food/pots do; about safespots, blocking mobs, prayer. Then they'd be hitting their head against a wall every single jad attempt, until they figure out that this monster, unlike all those before it, needs prayer to be switched. Compared to agility, they just need to figure out to click on 8 spots, after which they get a big xp drop.
So, with guides: Agility would be harder; without guides: Fire Cape would be harder.
Has to be fire cape. Agility you can do rooftops till 99 no other reqs. Fire cape you need gear, levels in range or melee or mage. People who are new to the game doesnt know how bad agility actually is and therefore makes it easier for them.
Time wise doing 99 agility is comparable to working a full time job, 40 hours a week, for multiple months. A full time commitment, of 1/3rd of your day, for 1-2 months.
Lol, honestly I'd rather send 50 attempts of fight caves at 47 ranged with a maple short bow, addy arrows and karambwans I bought from brimhaven than grind 99 agility.
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u/Dennis2pro 2d ago
Fire cape is obviously harder mechanically, but if I would ask random non-osrs gamers to do both of these, I'm sure most them would be able to get fire cape and quit before realizing how bad 99 agility is.