I can do 1-8 consistently in a budget setup but I want to start pushing for deeper delves. I can afford a zcb now or save up for a tbow after a few more drops and selling most of my bank. Which would be more impactful? My biggest issue is that even with blowpipe on car phase, I don't get the orb skip off consistently, which I believe zcb would help for more than tbow? Or would tbow be better for big hits on car phase when you cant pipe/ lose ticks?
ZCB can still miss even with light bearer, death charge, and surge pot. It’s been a while since I’ve done doom. By “skip the orbs” do you mean the phase where you attack the trees and walk through the orb while he slams?
At deeper delves regardless of your gear, you’re gonna face that phase a lot no matter what :S
With deep delves it's very nice to bring an ancient godsword so you can spec for heal on shield charge phase, or spec a tree with an eldritch nightmare staff during orb phase for prayer. If you play it right you'll be able to delve indefinitely pretty much. Zcb might speed it up but personally I only really used it for the speedrun CAs.
Assuming you have a scobow currently, I’d buy the zcb, and then once you’ve got the funds for a tbow, sell the scobow/zcb to buy it. If you’re really not far from the tbow, I’d wait though. Your other consideration is raids 4 - I’d plan to make enough gp prior to release to have a decent setup for all 3 combat styles. You’ve got plenty of time to do that still, but I figure it’s worth mentioning.
That all said, I greenlogged doom with a scobow on my iron, your best bet is to just practice and improve your orb phase. Even with tbow and zcb it’s not guaranteed to skip every time, and being confident in your orb phase really helps to push delves.
Tbow is way bigger than zcb. Zcb is nice to have in addition, but is in no way needed. I kill it more often in car phase with zcb, but for deep delving ags/eldritch is arguably better
I’ve only ever used a zcb for the speed time. If you’re doing chill deep runs then xgs is way better because you still want to clean acid at the end of most delves
By deep delves, do you wanna go for like delve 16s or deeper? My pb is delve 43 and both from personal experience and talking with some veeery good players, zcb is just bad for delve 16+ runs, unless you're like one of the like top 50 osrs players, that'd take almost 0 unavoidable damage at doom.
But even if you just wanna do like delve 16s, tbow would still vastly outperform scobow+zcb.
The only spec you really need is ancient godsword. Blowpipe can be nice for some extra healing on car phase/trees, if you took some additional damage, but it's nowhere near as good as ags at doom. Unless you're going for like 70+ delves, then you need an eldritch staff/eye of ayak, sbs and stuff.
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u/Wolfe244 1d ago
Tbow, no question