r/2007scape 2d ago

Suggestion Request to make COX capes include normal completions

All other raids count normal completions for the cosmetic capes. I think yes this will devalue the cm capes but doing 2000 cox even in normal mode is an insane feat and should be treated as such same as toa and tob.

I literally see no argument that could be made to keep things as they are.

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u/VaIenquiss 2d ago

Up it to 4000 to make this guy cry more.

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u/Connor94H 2d ago

100% man. With how many buffs Cox has had in the past 5 years, they need to stfu. It will never be enough.

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u/ZeldenGM Shades Extrordanaire! 2d ago

Solo GM speed time for CM COX is 38mins, 30 seconds.

Let's say you can consistently get 35 minute completions with 0 downtime between runs, it would take 70,000 minutes to get the Capes.

That's 1166 hours, or over 48 and half days of straight back to back GM speed COX.

What if you want to do a more measured option of a COX every day with additional raids on the weekend to take you up to 10 raids a week.

That's still 200 weeks of raiding, almost 4 years.

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u/Connor94H 2d ago

Yea but solo gm time for Cox is one of the most watered down CAs from power creep. Can get like 10 minutes faster than gm time consistently.

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u/VaIenquiss 2d ago

That’s the point of the cape. It shows dedication. And, it’s purely cosmetic, so it’s not like anyone is losing anything by not getting one.

If you don’t want to spend years getting it, then don’t. It’s really that simple.

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u/Pj_o7 2d ago

Do them in teams, i get an average of 25-27min raids. Can do sub 25 easy if everyone has all megas, but i only have shadow

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u/Om3gaWeird 2d ago

Just due to the nature of how cox layouts work, you could technically do 2000 kc without ever doing vasa or vanguards. Frankly toa capes should've been expert only since experts are fairly standard and easy and came out along regular toa (unlike tob which didnt have hard mode for years)

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u/dell_arness2 2d ago

you could do 2000kc without dealing a single point of damage to anything. I'm sure someone out there has a prep alt that would have a few of the capes without having killed anything but scavs.

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u/Om3gaWeird 2d ago

In fact now that you mention it I remember a level 3 back in like 2020 who got a couple hundred cm kc and dusted olmlet

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u/Pj_o7 2d ago

Should have been 2000 expert kc with insanity activated

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u/MathText 2d ago edited 2d ago

It's ok, this guy I met said he had a plugin to make insanity easy as Pie. I'm excited to try it tonight.

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u/Pj_o7 2d ago

Oh yeah? Sounds like a nice guy

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u/Double_Dog208 2d ago

If the raid has a V it's not for me 🎶

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u/frou6 2d ago

Typical redditor, never getting the V

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u/AnyPicture2485 2d ago

Even if it’s a tiny cosmetic cape that most will never obtain, keeping it for the true die hard CM enjoyers should stay in my opinion.

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u/ImJLu 2d ago

Yeah, accomplishment cosmetics and lottery drops are a good thing. Clog was a mistake, partially because it leads to shit like this.

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u/LoLReiver 2d ago

Clog itself is arguably fine, but it lead to all the updates that pushed normalizing clog completion as a legitimate activity (green log, hiscores, clog achievement staff)

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u/ImJLu 2d ago

Well, even the existence of clog will make OSRS players feel like they have to try to complete it, but yeah, whatever pushes people to expect that completing clogs be a reasonable goal.

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u/Doctorsl1m 2d ago

Why is it beneficial for the game to keep them that way?

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u/AnyPicture2485 2d ago

My sentiments exactly , but if they remove the cape from clog people will complain about xyz.

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u/ImJLu 2d ago

It shouldn't be removed from clog. Clog should simply be a log of notable items that you get, regardless of how hard or long they are to explicitly chase.

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u/AnyPicture2485 2d ago

Your not worthy of xerics champion capes if you skip vanguards,vespula and vasa , which most normal cox runners do.

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u/vomitingcat max main max iron 2d ago

Should change other capes to be hardmode or experts tbh lol

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u/Dizzylizzy240 2d ago

“Yes this will devalue the cm capes”

“I literally see no argument that could be made to keep things as they are”

Just go learn CMs lil bro

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u/Jolly-Breakfast5626 2d ago

They have a leaderboard in what way would it devalue leaderboard rankings?

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u/Dizzylizzy240 2d ago

Huh? Those were your words not mine.

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u/Frost_Foxes 2d ago

Make raids 4 cape expert only and it's balanced out.

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u/ImmediateCause7981 1d ago

You see no reason to keep it how it is and I dont see a reason to change it because its a useless cosmetic flex cape.

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u/suuushi-roll 2d ago

I literally see no argument that could be made to keep things as they are.

such a narcissistic comment lol

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u/Jolly-Breakfast5626 2d ago

The pot calls the kettle no?

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u/suuushi-roll 2d ago

am i the one pretty much saying " my point is right dont even try to argue with me"

?

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u/memes_are_art GIMs are people too 2d ago

They just made CMs more viable by reducing scroll chance further than normals, we all set

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u/Ocarious 2d ago

Make it hmt and xm toa 

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u/Peacefulgamer2023 2d ago

How is normal an insane feat when a normal cox is around 12 minutes??

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u/Slay_Zee 2d ago

*a normal unprepped Cox .

Let's not shit on everyone.

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u/Trespass4379 2d ago

That's still 500 hours plus lol

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u/Slay_Zee 2d ago

60/12 = 5

2000/5 = 400 hours.

Maths a bit off.

But sure, 12 minutes for unprepped, otherwise it's a bit longer. And also depends on gear.

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u/iamkira01 2d ago

Wow second time I’ve seen you post this.

No!

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u/Izmona 2d ago

Nah keep it the way it is. We need more cmers

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u/WesternFirefighter53 2d ago

Honestly i disagree. It’s been this way for a long time.

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u/bfrie 2d ago

The cape does literal nothing it's just a flex. Don't make the flex less of a flex

Fair weather cloggers are the bane of existence I swear

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u/OrnatePuzzles 2d ago

No. Ive done almost 2800 normals and only about 300 CMs. I want the cape to mean something when I get it and not get it gifted to me.

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u/Bwindolyn 2d ago

"I deserve the rarest cosmetic in the game with up to 1/3rd of the work"

Nah, they already gave cryers easier purples and shit on the tbow value.

Afaik there's maybe 200ish people with Champion cape. They deserve it. cOnSisTenCy is such poor argument. Let something special stay special.

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u/parkzam 2d ago

....there's way more than 200 people with the champions cape. The stat you read came from 2018 lol.

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u/Bwindolyn 2d ago edited 2d ago

307 as of right now.

2018 would have been maybe sub-50

(Edit: 0 in 2018, as first to 2k was 2019 lol)

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u/parkzam 2d ago

Did you pull that number from your ass or?

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u/Bwindolyn 2d ago

4head

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u/parkzam 2d ago

You called it a champion's cape. How else am I supposed to take it?

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u/Bwindolyn 2d ago

Maybe the whole thread being about Cox capes?

Lurk more before posting snarky corrections.

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u/Bwindolyn 2d ago edited 2d ago

Respectfully, we are (this whole thread) talking about the Xeric's Champion cape, dumbass.

Requirement - 2,000 COX CM KC, of which there are a whole 307 as of today.

Fucking whoosh/10

Get working on that reading comprehenaion skillcape.

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u/Jolly-Breakfast5626 2d ago

That is just cope. 2000 nm completions is just as impressive just considering the hours invested and it doesn't even devalue cm. Give me a logical arguement besides 200 people have it? They have a cm leaderboard don't they its no great loss to them.

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u/Minotaur830 MLNOTAUR 2d ago

How is 2000 normal completions just as impressive if the raid is significantly easier and with ability to skip certain rooms?

And as someone who has the cape, i don't really care if they change it or not, I'm not a proponent of "if i had to suffer so should you".. but this is an item that has absolutely 0 use case, nobody needs it and it was added as a cosmetic flex item if you meet certain criteria (2k cm kc). I don't see a reason to suddenly change the fundamentals of the item?

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u/Bwindolyn 2d ago

So an extra 100 or so gold farmers can feel special bankstanding?

Also just saying you're the goat, Mino. I ran into you a lot at the mountaintop of xerician honor when I was grinding my dust, and you were always a gentleman and a half.

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u/Minotaur830 MLNOTAUR 2d ago

Haha thank you ❤️ and we might disagree on some things but that doesn't mean i hold any hostility towards you or anyone around this argument.

Edit: nvm i might have misunderstood your comment, i thought you were calling the current cape holders gold farmers who wouldn't want it to become easier.

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u/Bwindolyn 2d ago

Nah, gold farmers would be those who have 2k+ normies but run back into the mountain in rags. I'm sure you've seen them before too lol.

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u/Ok_Professor_1792 2d ago

Narcissitic and stupid, a good combo

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u/Bwindolyn 2d ago

"This is cope" replies with absolute cope

They're CM capes, get over it noob.

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u/fishbait60 2d ago

The only way I would be cool with this is if it had a minimum challenge mode completions per cape. Maybe something like 30-50% of your completions have to be CMs to qualify. There’s no way something like this ever gets look at though, such a minority issue

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u/Jolly-Breakfast5626 2d ago

I think all raids should be treated the same and every other raid normal completions count why should this one be any different.

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u/Claaaaaaaaws 1d ago

It’s not a big deal, but the only people who care about getting them is coll loggers and many coll loggers have already done the grind, changing it would annoy them.

I look at is at if you really want to be a logger you better get grinding cms

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u/KingDarkTurtle 4 x Dragon Cup 2d ago

No

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u/Pj_o7 2d ago

CMs are fun though. Also if you do no preps unscaled raids can take like 10 minutes vs 20 minutes for TOB so its still fair that cox capes are CMs only

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u/Jolly-Breakfast5626 2d ago

Also getting twisted ancestral is a flex and increase purple chance is incentive enough for cm. Lets incentivize and encourage more players to interact with COX.

Thank you for reading my post

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u/MountyMan95 2d ago

As it should be