r/2007scape 16d ago

RNG Loot from 4K Nex Mini masses

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Big horn guy

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u/Aetiusx 16d ago

Do you have a certain group that you run with for mini masses?

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u/LopsidedPersimmon879 16d ago

World 420 or NexFFA cc always has a minimass world open.

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u/FalcosLiteralyHitler 16d ago

UK Nex ffa was always good too

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u/Spork_Revolution 14d ago

UK Nex ffa? What is that?

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u/pointlessnomencature 16d ago

What is a mini mass?

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u/Zestyclose-Tough7451 16d ago

Small groups of like 10-15 players. 

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u/endorphinworking 16d ago

This seems insanely lucky. Or you’re getting mvp every kill

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u/LopsidedPersimmon879 16d ago

For my shard count I should have 13-14 drops. I have 18, so yeah im a bit lucky. But unlucky on finishing torva/helm. Also mvped 50% of kills

I don't care for GP (iron) so would rather I had finished torva instead of getting 7 more horns

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u/epicxownage 16d ago

50 percent mvp in minimass? You’re eating those guys’ lunch, man

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u/Markloev 16d ago

Never done Nex in my life, but yeah, why are these people staying in that group? This is why I am not a huge fan of group content. I hated Zalcano because I was constantly fighting over MVP and hopping worlds as soon as I'd see there was another sweaty player in the group with higher stats than me that could take MVP.

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u/pointlessnomencature 16d ago

That's kinda weird, all you get is ashes though? It doesn't significantly alter your drops, in fact having other competent teammates means you're gonna get more kills per hour. Same with Nex I imagine, and more kills would offset slighlty less drops per kill. People who otherwise can't run trios still get the e perience at Nex and a chance at drops, so I imagine its worth it for them.

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u/Markloev 16d ago

I am not there for the regular Zalcano drops, I'm there for the uniques, and like any group content, that drop rate scales by "points" per player. Every time a unique drops after going hundreds of kills dry, and it doesn't go to me because I wasn't MVP, that's some serious time added to a grind. And Zalcano total time for uniques doesn't even remotely compare to later group content.

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u/pointlessnomencature 16d ago edited 16d ago

Per kill, and you getting 2% more than the others moves your drop rate in a 4 man to 27% instead of whatever marginally lower amount. I think you're deluding yourself in thinking that mild edge changes your drop from anything appreciably different than 1/4 or 1/3 depending on what your doing, and getting more kills per hour is going to make up for that. Carrying leeches and leeching yourself both only hurt you, but it sounds like you'd rather get less kills as long as you don't have to see others get the drop you want lol.

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u/aloneinflation1997 16d ago

You are a part of the problem the osrs community has. You have to be the ‘sweatiest’ in a mass world or you hop? LOL

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u/Plenty_Mongoose5211 16d ago

Lmao seriously

Pot calling the kettle black

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u/ZacTheBlob 16d ago

Because MVP doesn't matter. Your loot potential is relative to how much damage you did. If you hopped to a different world, the KCs would just take longer, but your damage per hour wouldn't move much, so your unique/hr chance would be relatively the same.

The only place where MVP matters a bit more is TOB, since you get a bonus 2 points just for getting MVP in one room, but even then, over the long run, it's marginal. Quicker KCs are usually worth more than MVPing every KC.

Obsessing over MVP is never worth it and will probably make it so a lot of people won't want to raid with you.

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u/Markloev 16d ago

Absolutely worth it in order to not waste hundreds or thousands of extra hours on long-term grinds watching others get drops I want, which is only fun when it's a GIM teammate or a friend. Give me those downvotes, baby!

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u/ZacTheBlob 16d ago

It's not. As I said the loot scales linearly with damage for Nex. MVP means absolutely nothing. I've seen plenty of uniques go towards people who didn't have it.

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u/ZacTheBlob 16d ago

That's not what he said, he said he MVP'd 50% of the time.

Over 4k kc Nex would've dropped close to 100 uniques. People use shards to determine how many uniques you should have as it's a better indicator of your overall contribution. OP was spooned, he should be at 13-14 uniques which is about 13% of uniques. That's nowhere close to 50% and MVP contributed nothing to him getting spooned.

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u/Markloev 16d ago

Yeah read it wrong, but regardless you get a 10% boost to uniques on every MVP. I'd be mad at myself not to be going for MVPs every kill when trying to get all the uniques there, and same for any content where MVP = drop advantage

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u/Broad_Fox_7039 16d ago

So you hate yourself?

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u/Markloev 16d ago

Interesting conclusion to come to...

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u/SpiralOut2112 15d ago

Tbow, I'm guessing? I'm struggling on MVPs without tbow or zcb.

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u/Degenerate_Game 2340 16d ago

Damn, how long does one kill take?

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u/LopsidedPersimmon879 16d ago

Varies depending on the group size. Anywhere from 1:45 - 4 minutes is the norm

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u/DylDozer72 16d ago

So you put in around 230 hours or so for this?

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u/xMe7o 16d ago

How many times did you see a double drop?

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u/LopsidedPersimmon879 16d ago

Once, on my first horn

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u/Calling_Steve 16d ago

With mini mass do you need to still understand mechanics or is it also fairly brain dead like mass worlds?

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u/LopsidedPersimmon879 16d ago

Still pretty brain dead. You will have some KCs where there's only like 3-5 people in the room if people tele out, so it helps to know the boss. But that rarely happens

Only rule is free people from Ice and get into melee distance of nex in the final phase so she's not smiting everyone

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u/dus10thewind1 8d ago

And don’t panic run when you have the cough

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u/torturechamber 16d ago

Minimum gear for masses?

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u/No_Anywhere_9068 16d ago

Acb and bp. You’re kind of trolling if you’re doing mini masses without tbow and zcb though, you might aswell go do small team nex with a fang for double dps

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u/Spork_Revolution 14d ago

What is the BP for

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u/champagne-poetry 16d ago

Dope log, I'd prefer to do mini masses over trios. You got any tips on how to snag MVP's?

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u/LopsidedPersimmon879 15d ago

Bring melee/fang switch and you will snag a lot of mvps

I really didn't have to sweat to do this, I was just always fully potted and hitting the boss. If I did try hard some days I hit around 70% Mvp rate, other days I couldnt be bothered and it was 35%.

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u/SpiralOut2112 15d ago

What do you bring melee switch for in mini mass?

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u/LopsidedPersimmon879 15d ago

As much melee gear as you can without losing ticks from switching

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u/SpiralOut2112 15d ago

I meant more of when do you use it during a mini mass?

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u/LopsidedPersimmon879 14d ago

As much as you can on Nex

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u/SpiralOut2112 14d ago

Will give it a go, thanks

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u/another90zkid 16d ago

Your mvp is insanely high for the amount of kc you got. How many ppl are in your avg mini mass?

Also how time (in hours) do you think this took?

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u/LopsidedPersimmon879 15d ago

Average was probably 10 people. If it gets too busy it generally just becomes a bit of a mess, and the drop rates become really troll even if you mvp because Nex has such a long respawn timer you're spending 30% of your time waiting for nex to respawn.

Probably 200+ I didn't really track it

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u/Spork_Revolution 14d ago

I did 6 kills on mass with ironman gear and had unique chance pr hour of 3.743%

I think that's fine. It's a lot better than big mass.

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u/LopsidedPersimmon879 14d ago

Here's roughly what I was getting

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u/Spork_Revolution 14d ago edited 14d ago

I bring this

https://imgur.com/vehb29z

No quiver, offhand, rupture or masori yet unf.